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ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

CelticPredator posted:

Defend horrible people despite having every reason too hate them?

[ten years after the last book, sobbing] the sorting hat is trans

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ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

jivjov posted:

Wait; does Savage show up too somehow?

no, official star wars canon character savage oppress does not appear in the film

i don't even know if sassassin knew he existed, i think he was just making a joke

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
obi-wan's 'fight' against maul in rebels is ok but i'd have preferred him winning Old Ben Kenobi style rather than being better with a laser sword than the angry guy

like, have maul approach a cloaked silhouette and start monologuing, only to slowly realise it's just an empty cloak, before the ground collapses under him into a punji pit (or a baby sarlaac) and a bunch of tusken raiders turn up and shoot him to death

meanwhile kenobi is several miles away with a smile of grim satisfaction on his face. i should remember that empty-cloak trick for when i fight vader.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
better ending: rey falls to the dark side right as kylo changes his mind, becomes empress of the galaxy, next trilogy is that kid from the end of the last jedi starting an actual slave revolution this time

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Harime Nui posted:

What I'm saying is yea Solo underperformed very badly----but there are several factors you can point to, like the May release and the reshoots---which might keep Disney (or whoever) from giving up on any more Star Wars Stories. Like seriously, they made Deadpool and Chappie for under $60 million. Can nobody can get a Boba Fett movie in the can for that much? loving give it to Robert Rodriguez, he'll shoot it on a handheld camera in the backyard of his ranch.

blomkamp star wars would be extremely my poo poo but i feel like there's no way in hell they'd give him enough creative control to get him to agree (outside of 'okay this story is set thousands of years before anything relevant, and DON'T TALK ABOUT DROID SLAVERY')

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Elysium is already Blomkamp Star Wars, just set thousands of years after Luke, in a different galaxy.

precisely

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
I would have appreciated some foreshadowing of the hyperspace ram by having someone say that the Big Evil ship has no shields because they'd interfere with the hyperspace tracking, which would also explain why nobody does this any other time

Nothing else in Tlj seems like that big of a deal

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
He is the force, and the force is with him. That's more characterisation than [checks notes] well where do i begin

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
TLJ is forgettable more than anything else. I'm a big fat star wars idiot and i think more about films like snowpiercer and elysium than i do it (let alone something that's actually hit the public consciousness like thor: ragnarok)

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
also the, like, Defining Thing about og star wars as a work of film is lucas' static camera work and how he uses it to emphasize the infinite sight lines he builds his compositions around

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
rose tico is not especially attractive, which is good, because not especially attractive people can and should be compelling characters we tell great stories about

she's not obese, though, no idea where that came from except the internet being Bad

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
"genocidal fascists, well, okay. Nice Guys, on the other hand"

(kylo ren being both a Nice Guy and a genocidal fascist makes this joke not really work i suppose)

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
"if you are horny, you are NOT valid" - star wars, 2019

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
male writer writing a woman to OWN THE FANGIRLS by making her crazy doesn't make it any better when the male writer makes her more of a psychopath

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
tfa is basically a sequel to revenge of the sith (which sort of makes sense when you think about it, since the movies were released in that order) and in order for the in-universe chronology to make sense they kinda have to skirt around the 'phantom trilogy' that takes place between 6 and 7, because it's not sufficiently different from the real existing 1-3 trilogy to be worth making

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
admiral ackbar's just one of those big googly-eyed goldfish and nobody has the heart to tell him he can't fly a starship

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
'i want an end to all violence, by becoming the supreme ruler of the entire galaxy forever' is the same thing the sith wanted, so kylo ren saying that is just reinforcing that he's a sith in all but name (it's also exactly what his grandfather wanted for padme back when he was a dipshit human instead of a cool robot)

tlj seemingly accidentally falls backwards into proving a point about how saying you believe in something has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of your actions, between that and the good guys calling themselves a resistance but not actually doing any resisting, just symbolic, ultimately harmful gestures

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Timeless Appeal posted:

You're right. They are in the official canon two completely different magical evil caves.

you know, the claim that ahch-to and dagobah are the same planet is much more fun than the claim that tattooine and jakku are the same one

rising sea levels really did a number on yoda's old place, huh

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
there was a good meme deliberately juxtaposing donnie yen's character in rogue one with r2d2 and c3po in a new hope both walking through a hail of gunfire untouched because they are one with the force and the force is with them, which is basically that but unironically

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

No Mods No Masters posted:

Considering pretty much everyone except maybe the supposed starving blockaded people on naboo would have been better off in the long term had they both just died then, perhaps even this was wise

There's being in touch with the force, and there's being a good person. Quigon is one of these things. The rest of the Jedi are neither.

Luke correctly identified which of these things he should be in the ot

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
my preferred theory is that the anti-hyperspace tracking and the anti-ship crashing into you technology can't fit into the power outlet next to each other because their power bricks are too big and nobody wanted to go to the hassle of getting an extension cord

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
nah, Ripley invented feminine agency, by being a gender-agnostic character that happened to be a woman. (i am very smart)

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Potential BFF posted:

Why the gently caress would a stable boy on Gambletopia IX know what Rose's stupid rear end decoder ring means? The Resistance has like 20 people in it and the poor kid shovels space gazelle poo poo in a manger all day and then they just loving leave him there. That's approaching "the Jedi leave Anakin's mom to live out the rest of her days in slavery" levels of hosed up.

I hope any future trilogy features force-kid discovering a holocron that is a pyramid rather than a cube and the nice man inside it wears a lot of black and has A LOT of opinions on the virtues of vengeance.

the sith reemerging as antifa would be rad, which is why it will never happen

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
so kylo ren is going to end up being redeemed because the emperor says "no, kylo, i killed your grandfather" and he will shout "no" and throw him into a pit

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
the jedi: this 8 year old is too old for us to train to become a space wizard

the audience: dang, i guess they're right. he is too old to train to become a space wizard. now why isn't the character 17 years old so he's at least cool in addition to being too old to become a space wizard

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
the 'twist' that kyle has been listening to Sheev this entire time and thinking it's his granddad - which is sort of what's implied by the whole helmet-worship contrasted with kyle's actions, and the emperor coming back in episode 9 - could lead to some interesting stuff, but i doubt they'd actually have the balls to have anakin show up as a spooky ghost and say 'the republic also sucked, kyle, so don't just join the good guys blindly'.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

well why not posted:

I’m not saying TLJ / Rose is bad I just find it’s a weird name for SW. I wonder what the origin is. I hope it’s not just a pretty flower for a girl but it probably is!

Well, see, when the First Order came to her planet, she didn't surrender. She rose.

(:suicide:)

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
Snoke is a Sith in the same way that Jakku is Tattooine. :can:

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
How does shooting lightning out of your hands factor into this? Or is that something you get to do when you're evil regardless of your political and religious affiliations

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Prince Myshkin posted:

I haven't watched the PT in a while. Is there any indication that the Separatist leaders Anakin kills are dastardly industrialists and not union representatives?

they're a "confederacy of independent states" who own slaves

and much like the us circa the civil war, the 'good guys' also own slaves, and start a war to prevent secession moreso than to do anything about slavery

e: sorry, 'systems', not 'states'

ungulateman fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Nov 27, 2019

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
jedi don't have powers. the universe just likes them a lot and makes what they want to happen, happen.

the sith make the universe do what they want against its will, which is closer to having powers but still kinda not.

this is why the very video gamey 'force push' or 'force pull' malarkey maclunkey is silly

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
if you replace all the uses of the word 'force' with 'narrative convenience' you get a powerful metacommentary on the nature of the hero's journey :smug:

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Barudak posted:

Once Star Wars hits the public domain long after were all dead maybe someone can do something good with it with a decent budget.

These are just the same post and they're both good

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

THE EMPEROR Unleashes Unlimited Power! [Smash Bros SFX plays]

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Eimi posted:

The ending is really bland because what happens next, what does the resistance do now? What about Rey? Does she just wonder off and be sad? That entirely misses her character. She wants acceptance and a family and a place, the ending should've had her with the rest of the cast celebrating or working towards the future. Also I think redeeming Kylo by death is far less interesting than letting him live and having him have to plot out his redemption on his own. Like you can have them kiss but have him wander off because he has to find some way to set things right before he can be with her or some poo poo. I don't know. It's rubbish.

They died.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Gaunab posted:

Then Kylo should have made out with the emperor.

that relationship actually is problematic because of the (unlimited) power imbalance

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
episode 2: "this weapon is your life!"

episode 6: luke throws away his laser sword

episode 8: luke throws away his laser sword, then pretends to hold onto his laser sword to troll his nephew

episode 9: luke: actually it's very important that i hold onto my laser sword

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Eifert Posting posted:

Attack of the Clones might be the worst movie I've seen. It's either that or when my parents made me take my sister to Spy Kids 2.

exCUSE me?

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
Palpatine's fighting style in Episode 3 was at least partially constrained by Ian McDarmid not being able to do all that much, so the scenes where he wasn't being body doubled out are pretty basic. So Rey using a basic style, due to being decent at fighting but having never used a lightsaber before, would sort of end up being a natural consequence regardless of their intentions. You'd have to go out of your way to direct Daisy Ridley to try and emulate someone else to avoid looking like Palpatine at least a little.

That said, this video points out some of the similarities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDBjej64ESo

ungulateman fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Dec 21, 2019

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ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

FlamingLiberal posted:

Also at the end of Solo which must have confused people who were not aware of him surviving TPM

has anyone who's fallen into a pit stayed dead in Star Wars, now? is boba fett Actually Dead this time or has the new, equally stupid EU let him escape the sarlacc again?

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