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Payndz posted:Most of the stormtroopers in the hangar scene were part of a matte painting. There's about 50 officers (because they're harder to paint realistically than faceless guys in armour), and maybe ten real troopers on the front row where Sheev and his guards walk past them. Everyone else is painted. It really cannot be understated how loving incredible the matte paintings are in star wars and how effectively they are (usually) employed.
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Strange Matter posted:I'm late to the party on TLJ; what's the story there? Was the backlash so noisy that Disney asked Abrams to come back? Rian Johnson was never going to direct IX, it was initially going to be Colin Trevorrow until his last movie turned out to be legendarily poo poo. Disney by all accounts actually really likes Rian so he's got some sort of story input and I think even was on the table to direct another, separate trilogy, but after they canned Trevorrow I don't think he was available/willing to direct IX, so they got JJ instead.
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Blood Boils posted:R2D2 fucks, like a lot Chewbacca is volcel
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Really, the way it's so absolutely blatant that they didn't bother having even the thinnest outline possible for the new trilogy, up to and including not even considering what kinds of arcs the characters should have, is absolutely hilarious. How do you get handed one of the most successful properties in history and gently caress up the basic poo poo like that?
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Nov 18, 2019 05:32
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Holdo's whole deal in particular is some real Still With Her poo poo.
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Ammanas posted:new stars wars isnt really star wars ??? What are Star Wars? We don't know.
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Holdo on her own isn't necessarily the problem, the problem is in the context that The Force Awakens is a movie that exists purely in the liminal headspace of post-obama, pre-trump liberals, and The Last Jedi is in many ways an angry response to that headspace getting absolutely loving curbstomped by the ugly boot of reality. Hux, Ren, and Snoke were supposed to be these useless, impotent clowns that couldn't pose a threat to real people, just the extras, but then their real-world counterparts took control of the American government and destroyed the status quo. So you have to show that you're loyal to the leadership, refuse to admit the failure of your ideology, and we world be at brunch right now if all these loving hot headed E: the game is really given away by the fact that of the four named antagonists in The Force Awakens, the only one with actual teeth is Kylo. Hux, Phasma, and Snoke are respectively a white supremacist, a cop, and a businessman, and all three of those are forces accepted as normal parts of societal functioning in American liberal democracy, so they all ultimately either amount to nothing (snoke) or are revealed as a paper tiger of no real threat to the heroes (Hux, phasma). But Kylo? TFA Kylo is an ersatz school shooter, the evil that comes home, the 21st century boogeyman who's gonna kill your precious children. He's the only one of the four that doesn't "fit" in liberal America, and he's the only one who is seen as approaching a real threat by the narrative. Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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ruddiger posted:It’s like Saturday morning GI Joe vs Cobra levels of bad jingoism, but in favor of the political machine that wages war in general rather than commenting on any specific ideology. Imagine the Gi Joe episode the weekend after an IRL Cobra Commander did 9/11 and you'd have a good analog to The Last Jedi. Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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If you want to talk about "realistic," an officer in Holdo's position (taking an unfamiliar command in the middle of a high tension situation where their backs are against the wall) would have to be either actively fatalistic or unbelievably stupid to not loop people into their plans who might normally not be privy to it, as TLJ depicts the exact kind of situation where mutinies are a very real and present danger, because the people you are commanding aren't loyal to you, they're loyal to The Mission. This disregards the fact that Holdo and Poe's dynamic isn't meant to depict a "realistic" command structure, they're supposed to depict how everything is Poe's fault for not respecting his betters, and that everything would have gone off without a hitch if he could have just sat down and been Still With Her. Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Terror Sweat posted:They were conquered *after* their super weapon and a large chunk of the first orders forces were destroyed? What the gently caress The First Order were not supposed to be a standing threat anymore as of the end of TFA, everything about them in TLJ is backfill making up for how badly everyone misread the room when TFA came out.
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Nov 19, 2019 19:54
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I will say its a genuine pity that force lightning got so diluted in star wars, it really softens how loving wild it is to see the emperor break that poo poo out in Return of the Jedi for the first time
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well why not posted:Yeah imagine seeing ROTJ with no clue what’s going to happen, in theatres, and a fucken wizard shows up and starts shooting lightning. For real, by this point you're five+ hours into this saga, and characters have mentioned that the Emperor is a bad dude with some incredible powers, but also the most you've seen the force do up to this point is see and sense things from far away and also lift heavy stuff. So you get to the very climax of the entire trilogy and this guy has been sinister, yeah, but he hasn't done anything yet you've not seen elsewhere. How is he gonna show off? Psychic attack? A really powerful force choke? Telekinetic lightsabers? Nah bro, he just up and starts blasting loving lightning from his hands like he's a goddamn DnD wizard. It's completely divorced from anything you could expect.
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Lmao, boyega must be done as gently caress with Disney in general. Don't blame him, Finn as a character is a total mess and Disney openly using the Chinese market as an excuse to cut him out of promotional stuff can't be much fun.
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Vinylshadow posted:Death Star Star Destroyer? Chewbacca, when the walls fell.
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I actually rewatched the podrace sequence recently and while I can't vouch for the rest of the effects on TPM, the race absolutely looks like it could stand against modern effects.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Why does disneys blandness work in marvel but not in star wars? Because nobody gives a poo poo about the source material for Marvel, but the people star wars is targeted at already have a very strong idea of what Star Wars is supposed to be like.
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Pollyanna posted:It's their own loving fault, they hired an idiot hack fraud to direct TFA (and then later TROS) who was only interested in spectacle and gloss and didn't actually bother to plan poo poo out, and they paid for it in the end. You can't even include JJ in the blame here because he was straight up begging Disney for more time to do reshoots and editing to try and staple TFA together into something worth a gently caress, but they told him to eat poo poo and turn in a cut for Christmas
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I think what pissed Disney off is that they were forced to realize with Solo that star wars, as iconic as it is, can't run on auto pilot and sell itself annually just on the strength of the star wars name. They thought they could just do the MCU thing of take a spec script, change the branding, give it to a sufficiently cowed director and get a cool 800 mil per annum forever, but whoops, people actually care about star wars enough to make noise about it and now the shine is permanently tarnished.
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The almost-decade of success with the MCU made them think that we are all hogs who will take whatever slop they put out, and it's still up in the air about whether they were wrong or not
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the theme of the sequel trilogy is very simple to understand once you see it.
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They're probably throwing Rian under the bus because after Knives Out was released and was incredibly loving good, anyone willing to think about it can look at his filmography and realize that TLJ's many flaws were entirely the fault of Disney level fuckery, so they're trying to get out ahead of it to establish no, no, it really was Johnson that hosed everything up, not Us, even though we've spent the last two years defending his decisions and saying we were totally behind everything he did all the way
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While I generally think TLJ is a bad movie, Luke's arc is one of the only interesting things in it, and portraying his actions to kylo as "plotting to kill his nephew" rather than what it actually was, a poorly timed moment of weakness following a deeply alarming prophetic revelation, is kind of disingenuous.
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They're gonna say "emperor Sheev Palpatine" out loud in the movie and its gonna be like a hypnotist releasing his spell on a theater full of people in every single theater in america all at once
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Having reviewed all of the latest spoilers, as a lifetime fan of star wars, my statement and opinion is as follows: lmao
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Furthermore, as a contemplative amendment to my previous post, I wish to add: lol
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Uncle Wemus posted:those look really uncomfortable to hold The original graflex Saber had black "grips" made of cheap hard plastic kitchen cabinet handles, iirc, its hilariously unpleasant to hold
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"They died"
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G-III posted:The most egregious aspect of this sequel trilogy is that it is not about anything. There is no actual story here or even a lesson for the audience to walk away with I don't know what its SUPPOSED to be about, but its clearly actually about centrist liberalism having an existential meltdown in the wake of their End of History doctrine being absolutely proven wrong
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Dec 17, 2019 16:00
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Sheev is russiagate, in that its western liberalism deciding to blame all their failures on the perfidy of a long-dead enemy rather than confronting the reasons why they actually failed
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No, the hobbits are bourgeoisie.
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Blast Fantasto posted:It kind of depends how much money it makes. If it does well no one gives a poo poo. TLJ made container ships full of money and they're still throwing Johnson to the wolves, and hes an established director, writers like Terrio are absolutely expendable in Disney's eyes
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It is simultaneously true that both Dany was a crazed murderous dictator whose descent into megalomania was inevitable and also that she was portrayed as an unironic #girlboss slay queen. show bad
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Nah, Disney's live action stuff outside of marvel is universally a loving mess, its just that nobody gives a poo poo about Dumbo or Lion King enough to call for public flagellations like star wars fans do Its not KK, its just that feige is the only person working at Disney with the acumen required to keep the wheels on the bus, and he's aided by the fact that his target market is children, casual viewers who don't give a poo poo, and comic book fans, who historically will eat basically any slop you put in front of them
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lofi posted:Unlike Star Wars fans? Star wars fans literally ruined Jake Lloyd's life for not playing the role of a child slave to their standards and drove Ahmed Best to the edge of committing suicide, they may not have a coherent idea of what they want but they absolutely will gently caress people up for not delivering it
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Blast Fantasto posted:I’d love Star Wars to be like Marvel, a never-ending stream of near identical movies that never reaches above a B- and constantly pats itself on the back Oh don't get me wrong, the marvel movies are the filmic equivalent of a feeding tube dumping a steady stream of baby food into your stomach and I would love nothing more for the whole enterprise to crash and burn and destroy Disney's industry hegemony with it, but its an unfortunate truth that feige is very good at managing the various teams and organizations required to deliver Satisfactory Product once per financial quarter every year forever
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Please, Mrs. Kennedy, I just want to go (yeet my role into a big-rear end pit) oh oh
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Everything I've heard about Rise of the Skywalker so far has powerful At World's End energy.
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Jiro posted:Holy poo poo, it's all loving true. The thing is is that the marvel movies are the exception to how Disney runs things, not the rule. Their live action attempts outside of marvel are, aside from a couple success stories, infamous trainwrecks of production and plotting. Pretty much all of their recent remakes are overproduced garbage that gets forgotten immediately, and before that they kept striking out with adaptations like John Carter. Outside of animated films, Disney is just straight up bad at making movies, always have been, and they're kept afloat by nostalgia, the parks, and Marvel. It's just that Star Wars is the first time since Pirates that Disney's general incompetence has been under such scrutiny, and star wars fans are far more vocal and numerous.
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It's amazing to look at the Marvel movies and then back to this and just wonder what in the absolute gently caress Disney was trying to accomplish.
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Onmi posted:I still don't understand the Resistance/Republic split. The resistance are contras.
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