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PJOmega posted:"ackshually the reason RoS is bad is because TLJ was so awful and they HAD to course correct and they couldn't because TLJ was SO BAD." gently caress this noise. This just showed how great TLJ was. It's too bad Rian Johnson couldn't close out the trilogy because he gave the only truly compelling story so far. Also whoever edited this film needs to get loving banished from the industry for good. It was so SO SO horribly edited. The pacing was godawful. Also everything after the Han Solo scene was trash. Even the scene with Luke was weak and void of any charisma. And that had to be the weakest final battle I've seen maybe ever. Blow up their compass transmitter tower? gently caress all y'all who hated on TLJ. This is what you get when you want pure distilled nostalgia injected straight into your vein. A bunch of uninspired trash.
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Dec 20, 2019 08:52
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sorry I stopped reading when you started bitching about space physics in a Star Wars movie.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:32
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H13 posted:So justify General Holdo's terrible loving decisions which resulted in a mutiny and a secret mission behind her back, that ended up dooming the resistance. There could be spies on the ship? Haven't you heard of a "need to know" basis? This is why we have classified level poo poo in government.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:38
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Captain Jesus posted:This is laughable just like TLJ was laughably bad with the exception of some bits and pieces. Should people refrain from criticizing a movie because it might result in the studio making GBS threads its pants and somehow making the next movie even worse? gently caress off with this crap. Nah it really wasn't because TLJ basically wrapped up the story to the point where the third film could do whatever it wanted. JJ is just so creatively bankrupt that he literally dug up the Emperor's corpse to replace Snoke instead of go off into an interesting direction and continue the themes established in Episode VIII...
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Dec 20, 2019 09:40
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Quantum Shart posted:Hahaha I can't believe people are blaming TLJ for this, it opened up the mythology in a way where if they had the gutts they could've gone in nearly any direction, instead they tried to go back to the boring retread that TFA was and hosed it up even more! Most of the Last Jedi haters love that poo poo though. They can't stand the fact that Luke hosed up and went off to pout and feel sorry for himself. The fact that the big bad guy gets cut down and dismissed as just being the "latest rear end in a top hat in charge" makes them see red. They want their own star wars fantasy to play out on screen instead of something original or interesting.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:44
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H13 posted:Yes. And in this circumstance, everybody on that ship needed to know. I'm glad you aren't in charge of anything related to strategic decision making.
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Dec 20, 2019 09:46
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H13 posted:You have absolutely nothing to base that on. Now I feel like I'm getting trolled Can you seriously not comprehend the act of espionage? Loose lips sink ships? Poe was just demoted for loving up bigly, and he was talking down to a loving ADMIRAL. Yet you're blaming Holdo for Poe being a complete dumbass prick? Why isn't that his own fault, at least in your mind? Is there a particular reason why you're blaming Admiral Holdo instead of newly demoted PFC Poe? I think getting to the bottom of this is important before we move forward with more of your arguments.
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Dec 20, 2019 11:38
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Horizon Burning posted:shut the gently caress up lmao No. If your first reaction to Poe loving everything up is to blame Holdo, I think you've got some deeper problems than bad movie takes.
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Dec 20, 2019 13:47
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H13 posted:You're absolutely right. Poe was a First Order spy this entire time. I hope you didn't roll your ankle with that sloppy loving side-step. Since you're completely oblivious to concepts like operational security and the chain of command, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if more obvious things also went over your head and interfered with your ability to think critically without having them spoon-fed to you.
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Dec 20, 2019 14:04
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Pollyanna posted:I don’t understand why people are crying during this movie. Mental illness. Pook Good Mook posted:There's tons of people saying, "Imagine if JJ had done all of them?" This. He even had set up the "people behind the scenes pulling the strings" with the war profiteers subplot. That would have been an interesting direction to go in for the SW universe. TLJ haters can suck it, basically.
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Dec 20, 2019 23:03
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mastershakeman posted:https://twitter.com/boobooben/status/1207889476174929921 I would have been knocking some loving heads in that screening. What a bunch of shitheads.
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Dec 20, 2019 23:09
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Pook Good Mook posted:I would have thought they were going to follow up with TLJ with Keylo in charge but becoming more and more unhinged and detached with rage as he attempts to hunt down Rey and consolidate power. Rey would try to turn him to the light or something while he ravaged civilized worlds looking for her. This would have been too controversial (see: "interesting") for Disney Wars. The type of fans they're focused on courting would have started detoxing and then there'd have been a class action lawsuit in order to pay to replace all of the vomit-stained isle carpets.
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Dec 22, 2019 09:54
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At least all the TLJ haters who tried to use box office numbers to argue their point are now eating crow. 170 million? Is ROS even going to make back its budget?
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Dec 28, 2019 00:11
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gohmak posted:Going back through the PT to test this "The ST makes the PT better in retrospect". Attack of the Clones is a good movie and sits at 4 place after the OT. Fight me. Sorry, TPM was the best of the prequel abortions.
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Dec 28, 2019 00:12
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Schwarzwald posted:TPM is the better film but Geonosis is probably the best set piece and action sequence in Star Wars. Perhaps if Duel of the Fates didn't exist. Or Bespin. MrFlibble posted:uh whats your point? TLJ haters pointed out that the third film would have a lower opening weekend because people will have given up on the trilogy after TLJ and that seems to have happened so i'm not sure what you're saying. So why isn't this the same explanation for TLJ? It's almost like they're all full of poo poo! euphronius posted:TPM still has spielbergian pacing which even puts me off and I can usually handle a slow movie. Here's the thing: "modern standards" are loving garbage. Shiroc posted:Han in Empire is a tremendous negging creep who ignores all of Leia's attempts to get him to respect any kind of boundaries. Her immediate reaction when 3PO interrupts Han forcing a kiss on her is to run the gently caress away. The only reason why it doesn't come off horribly is because 1980 Harrison Ford is incredibly attractive and charming and Kirshner directs everything to be sympathetic to him in spite of the actual action. She was into him the whole time tho. Not sure if you're on the mark with this one. Grandpa Palpatine fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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Dec 28, 2019 04:06
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Why are you talking in terms of flawlessness and absolution? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL33_8DcqnE
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Dec 28, 2019 05:14
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Hobo Clown posted:The prequels miss the mark a little but at least they attempted something new with the universe. I know where the story is heading but I don't necessarily know how or when it's going to get there. And TLJ set it up for him on a tee to do some really cool new stuff. Regression is a bitch, and JJ is in heat.
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Dec 28, 2019 05:16
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Schwarzwald posted:The absolute most baffling thing about the prequels was the manner in which popular nerdism felt positively aggrieved by them. It seems to me that that vitriol has largely faded over the years, and the broader culture seems to have slowly come to re-evaluate the films, but you do still come across old nerds still carrying the torch and pitchfork. Honestly I think it's just that modern movies have become so terrible that younger folks think they're actually good films now. Like, yea they're good films compared to the Transformers movies or Pacific Rim or whatever.
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Dec 28, 2019 05:19
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euphronius posted:Her pulling the ship to her would look exactly the same This was also my immediate thought. They're in space, so she was both pulling the ship toward herself and herself toward the ship!
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Jan 11, 2020 01:40
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I think the new movies and A New Hope are absolutely held to different standards Marsha Lucas saved the film. Not George. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk quote:Lucas pulled the OG trilogy out of his rear end, and it shows (see: Leia kissing Luke). Disney did not have to loving do that, there's absolutely zero reason for them to have done that but they did and it's going to color how I compare the movies. I'm not a film critic or anything, that's just the thought that popped into my head while I was out back having a smoke wait.... what??? Grandpa Palpatine fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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Jan 11, 2020 01:45
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galagazombie posted:This Nien Nub thing is kinda emblematic of two issues with the film. The first that it was so badly shot/edited that people did not even know he had died without official confirmation. But more importantly it shows people had more emotional attachment to Lando's discount Chewbacca than the actual main cast of the trilogy. he totally didn't die. gently caress that, it was another ship. gently caress the novelization and gently caress anyone's opinion who believes that. Nien Nub is not dead and never will be.
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Jan 11, 2020 01:46
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The best part of Fellowship was the car driving down the dirt road in the background.
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Jan 11, 2020 03:07
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euphronius posted:Balrog was great honestly I thought you were talking about when Boromir sacrifices himself. Because that was my fav part of the movie. the fire dragon was OK but wasn't anything great. The fight in that closed-in room right beforehand was way better and overshadowed it. Gotta love that James Horner music right after Gandalf drops like a punk too. The fire dragon was kinda lame tbh. no i will not call it by its stupid name while you all stroke to Tolkien (i know this is what you all want).
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Jan 11, 2020 16:53
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Onmi posted:Can you just go back to posting about TLJ so we can watch you stroke it to Rian Johnson instead? You mean the one good film in the whole sequel trilogy? I mean I can do that, but I ain't gonna let you watch.
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Jan 11, 2020 17:06
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Guess I've really lit a fire under the asses of SW spoiler thread posters who speak fluent Elvish I can only pray that they contain their true feelings to the LOTR thread.
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Jan 11, 2020 17:12
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oh wait y'all don't have a thread. Because nobody fuckin cares about that bullshit. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 11, 2020 17:15
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DeimosRising posted:I don’t know what you’re even talking about but you’ve posted more times than you’ve been responded to lol how lonely are you 
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Jan 13, 2020 20:30
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2house2fly posted:Even the opening crawl says less about taxes than it does DEADLY BATTLESHIPS and JEDI KNIGHTS. 5 minutes in Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor are slicing apart battle droids while the Star Wars theme plays, and then DROIDEKAS roll in, and we all know how loving cool droidekas are They're really easy. The Jedi just slice through them like butter.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:29
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You know how we had Supreme Leader Kylo Ren at the beginning of the movie, and it was pretty good / comical with he and Hux? We should have just had that for the entire movie. No emperor bullshit. Would have literally solved half of the problems.
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Jan 14, 2020 03:42
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General Dog posted:After rededicating his life to Christ or w/e, could Kylo Ben not have used his Supreme Leader status to sign a peace treaty and just have Palpatine arrested or something? Wasn’t it largely his people manning Palpatine’s fleet? Well they had that scene immediately after Leia died where Palpatine sensed that he turned good and had that discussion with Allegiant General or w/e
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Jan 14, 2020 04:07
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No Mods No Masters posted:Insofar as JJ thinks, he thought it would be a pearl harbor type setup for a bigger renewal of space world war 2 in the second film. It's on rian for randomly deciding instead that the republic had stopped existing in the 10 minutes between films That's how it came across though. At the end of TFA, leaving the theater, I saw it as a victory by default for the First Order. Yea their new battle-station got blown up, but Han Solo was murdered and they wiped out the loving capital system of the New Republic in a decapitation strike. It would be like if Washington, DC got nuked. It would be mass chaos and quite frankly I'm assuming the real-world United States has more contingency planning for such a scenario than the fictional New Republic ever did, since there was such a lack of political will for militarization in the latter case. So since the New Republic had limited its military buildup post-war, all the First Order had to do was pick off the remaining thinly spread fleets before they could mobilize for a counter-attack. This of course would have been planned well before the surprise attack on the Hosnian system ever took place. And if you have an issue with the fact that the First Order was able to build up its forces so completely without the Republic (or even the Resistance) knowing the extent? The galaxy is loving huge. The Milky Way alone has up to 400 billion stars, which is a number so great that you can't even really conceive of it -- you couldn't count to it in hundreds of lifetimes. All of this really is not that difficult to rationalize in a universe where we have to suspend our disbelief so much to begin with. edit: so JJ is the doofus here, not Rian Emrikol posted:What gets me is that he went with "nobody's answering our distress calls because they don't care" instead of "nobody's answering our distress calls because the New Republic's capital and most of its military got vaporized literally yesterday". If you watch them back to back, this is pretty loving obvious. General Dog posted:I still can't get over how casually thrown in the destruction of Kristallnacht Planet in RoS is. yea it was pretty loving funny hahahaha at first i thought they were going to do something insane and blow up Tatooine or Coruscant but it was just that lovely ghetto planet lmbo Grandpa Palpatine fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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PeterWeller posted:Nah, I see people see those planets exploding and that communicates an idea that they're significant to those people. It's not "space and time don't matter when you're telling a story." It's "time and space are malleable when you're telling a story." And they're exceptionally malleable in Star Wars, which is why you can extrapolate that any location is very close to any other location. Seriously. I've said this before and I'll say it again: Star Wars does not give a flying gently caress about physics. We know there's no sound in space. We know you aren't going to be able to go outside of your ship in a vacuum only with an oxygen mask on. We know this with the same certainty that you can't see a system of planets being blown up half a galaxy away or that a payload of bombs don't drop out if there's no gravity. Complaining about physics in Star Wars is about as ignorant as not knowing these "problems" exist in the story imho.
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Jan 31, 2020 06:00
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Honestly I think it would have been cooler if instead of Starkiller base being a super weapon, it was just a planet with its equator collapsed because it had been mined for all of its kyber crystals. There's a big space battle because the Resistance received bad intel that it was a super weapon, when in fact they learn that it is being built elsewhere. TLJ could have played out the same way. At the end of the film it is revealed to Rey that it the First Order is building superweapons, plural. But they're still thinking about the death star, so they're expecting two or three big installations with a doomsday cannon. In the third film everyone is shocked when it turns out that they put doomsday lasers onto a fleet of 500 star destroyers and the whole thing is being carried out by fanatics who promised the emperor they would destroy all life in the galaxy were he to be killed. So it's not about making worlds cower to the First Order -- it's about literally exterminating all life in the galaxy. Would have been way better as far as the bad guys being scary.
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Everyone posted:I want to object to some of that. I want to say, "Starkiller base has to be the super weapons that the Republic can be destroyed." Except, not really. Because the Republic was pretty much indifferent to the First Order right up to the point that it killed them. no gently caress palpatine coming back in any form Some dumb bullshit for real.
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Y'all I am SHOCKED that Rise of Skywalker wasn't nominated for best film editing
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well why not posted:I said what I said David Lynch
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Haven't read this thread in months. Coming back to see wtf everyone is talking about regarding film announcements. Skimming the thread since I last read it, looks like nothing has changed thankfully...SuperMechagodzilla posted:Now, I am not arguing that Leia's tactics are unrealistic; I'm arguing that Leia is unstable. SMG outs himself as an incel. SuperMechagodzilla posted:She insists that he come back to her. It seems like she's desperate for people to need her. And then he was projecting hard. Horizon Burning posted:Why do TLJ Defenders consistently lie about the film? Every single bomber is destroyed in the attack. The whole point is that Rose's sister is on the last one and manages to destroy the Dreadnaught. lol of course, it's the TLJ defenders that have a weird complex and choose to lie about their favorite film of the ST (why would that be your first assumption you weirdo wtf). There's simply no way that anyone who enjoyed TLJ could make an honest mistake for a film they haven't 100% committed to memory. Polo-Rican posted:Ah you're right. I was remembering the shot where Leia looks at the panel and sees that most (not all) of their ships had been lost; but i didn't notice that all of the surviving ships weren't bombers oh drat whoops I bet that other guy feels like an rear end in a top hat now? nahhh SuperMechagodzilla posted:Perhaps the biggest question in all the ST is how Leia’s getting this much wild, uncritical devotion. oh god damnit... just like HSV, you'll never go away... It's almost like she's being treated like a war hero or something. Surely there are no examples of this happening in real life. I've never heard of a warrior hero being given the benefit of the doubt even when making dubious claims. Certainly not in front of the UN Security Council. SuperMechagodzilla posted:Responding to these types of argument point-by-point is, well, pointless. If you’re looking at the scenes where everyone’s back at base, hugging and browsing maps, etc. - while the enemy forces are quickly closing in - and you see nothing odd about that behaviour, something is wrong with your methodology. The problem is, as others have pointed out, you make poo poo up outside of the film in order to justify or criticize what you want. In other words, you make strong assumptions which aren't clarified by the story at all, but because they are your strong assumptions they must be correct, and those that others make must be inherently wrong or flawed. This is a common trait in those with Asperger syndrome, particularly the onset of anger or rage when others disagree or dismiss what's being said. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Gonz posted:The TROS novelization also reveals that Palpatine transferred his consciousness into the clone on Exogol as he was falling down the Death Star shaft, and the reason he’s even crustier was because his clone body wasn’t quite ready, yet. Too bad they didn't put this in the movie so it literally doesn't matter. gj JJ
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I was all prepared to write a response to the wall of text, but he’s just calling me a queer for criticizing decorated war hero Leia Organa. Lol
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