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Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

Episode 6 is the best of the OT and no one can change my mind. That space battle above Endor at the end concurrent with Luke and Vader's duel... :discourse:

Amen, brother. The highs are so high that they outweigh the lows.

CelticPredator posted:

Yeah it’s pretty bad looking. I think the throne room stuff is astounding and has my single favorite shot in the saga (the dolly tracking shot as they duel) but overall just blah.

Empire is the best looking OT and Star war imo

A lot of the live action is not shot very interestingly, but the spaceships are on point from start to finish. My favorite shot in possibly any film of all time is when the Falcon is exiting the power core as it falls, explodes, and then they enter the superstructure. Tickles my brain something fierce.

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Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Horizon Burning posted:

Yeah, the battle of endor is packed full of fantastic spaceship shots that still feel they haven't been topped

There are a few space battles in the Clone Wars that I thought had really good, dynamic action, but I dont know that I'd say they are "better." It's hard for me to separate the shots themselves from the story, the stakes, the music, and so on, so topping ROTJ is a tall, tall order.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

FunkyAl posted:

Why is this guy so popular? Does everyone just love Hitler Youth Apologists? Or Thor 3, for some reason?

First of all, what? And second of all, what?

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Darth TNT posted:

Can we just appreciate Dooku's weird sail ship some more. :allears: It's wonderfully different and so classy as befitting of Dracula.


My son literally yelled "that's cool!" when the sails came out.


He also praised the sound effect for Jango going after Obi Wan. Though the seismic charges seemed to confuse him.

The seismic charges are crazy good sound effects, absolutely iconic.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

If he dies, he can always come back as a clone and just say "somehow, I returned"

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Speaking of games, ever since I played Hyrule Warriors I've thought a Star Wars or specifically Clone Wars musou would have great potential. Playing as a Jedi mowing down thousands of battle droids, etc. It just makes so much sense it's painful that it hasn't happened yet.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Bongo Bill posted:

Omega Force is on record as having said that they also want to make some sort of Star Warriors, but they were never able to get the license holders to the negotiating table.

You are the bringer of pain.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Bongo Bill posted:

Omega Force is on record as having said that they also want to make some sort of Star Warriors, but they were never able to get the license holders to the negotiating table.

What I meant to say was, "The negotiations haven't started because the ambassadors aren't there? How could that be true? I have assurances from the chancellor..."

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Robot Style posted:

Using the Rancor as an example, they filmed the puppet at 72 fps to make its movements slow enough to register to an audience as "huge creature", and would have to do something similar for a live-action Snoke - with the big hurdle being, how do you get a good performance out of an actor when they have to do all their lines at 3x speed? The only realistic way around it is to make him CG.

This is one thing I really disliked about the Book of Boba Fett, the rancor was much too quick and fast.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

George Lucas is a fuckin' genius for names. Sy Snootles is the elephant man's name?!?!? It's like he plucked that poo poo from the collective unconscious. All his names feel like that. We all laugh but seriously the man knows exactly what to name this stuff.

Agreed bigly; most of the post-Lucas names are pale imitations of his style at best.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Gonz posted:

BoBF was over as soon as the 8 MPH hover scooter “chase” happened.

A lot of the show was kinda boring, but everything with the scooter gang was just so bad. I liked the way they realized Cad Bane, a lot, but it was criminal to waste him on this and then kill him off.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Darth TNT posted:

I started watching Solo story with my son.

....

I’m having a good time. If this movie keeps it up it’s going to be an entertaining if unremarkable watch for me.

This about sums up my opinion of Solo.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Finally finished Andor. Probably could've been a couple episodes shorter, or more like shave 5 minutes of ponderous inaction off each episode with a little more aggressive editing. But that's the worst I can say about it I think. I loved that they were so committed to the grungy 1970s aesthetic that they even have the score a bit wobbly like the master track has degraded over the last 50 years.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

No Dignity posted:

I made a bigger post about this in one of the Star Trek threads but I really don't think you can separate Star Trek from the era it was produced in, like Ursula Le Guin said sci-fi is always kind of a commentary of the present. The main reason Star Trek feels more dystopian now is because we live in a dystopian era and it's hard to see a purely optimistic view of the future reflected in the show that wouldn't feel at least a bit bullshit. DS9 only asked if the end of history perfected liberal democratic society presented in TNG was all that, which honestly I think is a question worth asking. Boiling it all down to optimism :( or dystopia :mad: feels a little reductive

Noted utopian era, when things were looking bright for the future, the late '60s.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

No Mods No Masters posted:

I mean okay, so we're changing it to "the jedi should only fight in just wars" and stipulating the clone wars were not just. (That still seems arguable, especially if our standard is the enemy wanting to enslave or annihilate, which the trade federation readily tries to do to naboo in phantom menace.)

But what's the argument for why the jedi would have survived if they hadn't participated? Is there one? Yeah a lot of them died in the war which made them easy to finish off, but even if they were all alive I think it's uncontroversial to say sheev could have rolled them with the clones without that much trouble. Especially because sheev could easily make everyone hate them for refusing to help. I guess they would have been wiped out uncompromised?

Honestly small brained as it is, maybe the occam's razor for the whole topic is this

By the time of the Clone Wars it was already too late for the Jedi. Palpatine had backed them into a lose-lose situation and could work with anything they did. That's his true skill in setting up his schemes.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Mr. Grapes! posted:

For my childhood at least the height of all Star Wars was the Jabba sequences. If we're going to make ten billion spinoffs about every loving thing then where is my Jabba prequel? I wanna know how a slug who loves moisture ends up living in the dry sand. I wanna see baby Jabba swimming in a pool full of afterbirth gobbling up his runty siblings. I wanna see people try to grab him and he squirms out of their grip and goes HO HO HO HO. I want Jabba strapped into a ship with cute little goggles on his lumpy gob. If they do actually make it there will be certainly a scene about him acquiring a golden bikini and having it be his life's dream to get someone to wear it. There'll also be a meet-cute with his little monkey-guy.

I'll only allow it when they can get both the appearance and voice of Jabba right.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Bogus Adventure posted:

George Lucas owns

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

The MSJ posted:

I'm sorry, but judging from social media, "Acolyte/bad" has been claimed as the pronouns of dudes who own Cybertrucks ans think JD Vance is "the cutest". We can't use those words anymore.

calling a bad show good because my political enemies called it bad first

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

The REAL Goobusters posted:

it died in 2012 but its ok, we still got the old stuff. The new stuff, eh

I'm closer to this opinion; if it ain't George Lucas, whatever his flaws, I'm not all that interested. I've seen enough.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Hey kid, you like Star Wars? Of course you do! Everyone likes Star Wars! Well then, how would you like 45 Star Wars??? That’s right, 45 Star Wars movies, over the course of two to three months?????!

Luke? Leia? No! It’s all Attack Of The Clones, baby! Yeah, it’s the best one! You really, sincerely like it? Well how about we ‘amp up’ that runtime by 4000%???????????????!

We got Geonosis Arc, and Political Arc! We got Rex and Snips and Blix and Shlitz…. Think of it as like ten additional seasons of Andor, presented as an animatic. You’re gonna love it!

emptyquoting this except unironically

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Grendels Dad posted:

By now there is enough of Star Wars that I can say I haven't watched even 50% of it. As a Star Wars fan, I literally do not like Star Wars.

By now when I think "Star Wars" I think of the Clone Wars. We are not the same.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

I don't know much about Ubisoft games, but I would never stop playing a Star Wars musou. The Clone Wars seems tailor-made for the genre, you have endless low-level mooks to mow down and all sorts of different tiers from there all the way up to legendary "heroes on both sides."

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

It's never too late.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

euphronius posted:

Unpopular opinion: bring Lucas back

Increasingly popular opinion.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Arc Hammer posted:

There's an episode of the Clone Wars with Sy Snootles singing Anything Goes where she murders Ziro the Hutt

SMG doesn't know what he's missing.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

feetnotes posted:

You know what came out the same year as Star Wars? Three’s Company. Saturday Night Fever. We need the bowl cuts and feathered bangs, speed suits and jumpsuits with bell bottoms. Make it disco as hell and filmed on real practical sets that look like the inside of a microwave. Release it in 2027 for the 50th anniversary, boom done star wars is saved.

Genuinely appreciated this aspect of Andor, they leaned hard into the '70s aesthetic.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Wake me up when they have a Clone Wars musou.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Schwarzwald posted:

If Luke didn't try to kill Kylo then there wouldn't have been any story.

There wouldn't have been the story we got, but there could have been a better one.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Hux's one great moment was reaching for his blaster until he saw Ren getting up, and then covering it back up with his cloak.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Gonz posted:

Star Wars was ruined when they took Yub Nub out of the ending of ROTJ.

this, but Lapti Nek

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Tagge & Binks

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Hook energy in Star Wars is a good fit, I'm 6 episodes into Skeleton Crew and it seems to work. Also Jude Law knows exactly what kind of show he's in.

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Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

And here I thought it was going to be about the lame, punchless sound effects.

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