SuperMechagodzilla posted:

On top of all this, let's rank the ST characters by how actually-interesting they ended up being (i.e. minus any hype or speculation).

From most to least interesting:

1) A Snoke clone in a vat. Massively-powerful, organic, 'Force sensitive' supercomputer driven to liberate the galaxy - unknowingly programmed, from his creation, to serve Palpatine. This is an insanely good character concept.

2) Another Snoke clone in a vat. See above. But there are two of them???

3) Rose Tico. A mechanic drawn into the Resistance by her sister at a very young age, Rose is strong, brave, a technical genius, and politically naive to the point of idiocy. She is the personification of the Resistance organization, and understanding her is the key to understanding the entire conflict. Rose is the only Resistance character with an actual, specific grievance against the First Order. She should have been the protagonist.

4) Tatooine (aka Jakku). If New York can be a character, so can this. The story of how Tatooine became Jakku is more intricately nuanced than that of any other character or setting in the ST.

5) Ben Solo (not Kylo Ren). Leftist college student. Subversive. Marked for death because he questions his parents' ideologies. Passively defeats Luke Skywalker through sheer philosophy. The true Jedi master.

6) R2-D2. The only surviving veteran of the Clone Wars (besides Chewbacca), R2 is hesitant to endorse either the Resistance or the New Jedi. Ultimately fed up with this poo poo, he abandons Luke to die alone. He apparently only sticks around to care for elderly C3PO. Helps kill Palpatine again, because why not.

[This is where it starts getting difficult.]

7) Teedo. Notorious scavenger and Dino-Rider. Has no respect for anyone (cool). His dinosaur sucks. Inexplicably alive.

8) Stormtrooper who says "traitor". Dark reflection of Rose Tico. Taught himself martial arts, exceeding his programming through sheer dedication. Promote this man to Hux's rank.

9) Captain Canady. Extremely incompetent ship's captain. In way over his head, he disguises it by acting constantly frustrated by everything around him. First Order George Costanza.

10) Kylo Ren (the mask). Significantly less interesting than Ben Solo, but interesting in that he is ultimately revealed to be reversal of the Vader/Anakin dynamic: Ren an externalization of Ben's pathological human limitations.

[Now running out of interesting characters]

11) The fat alien in Maz's community center who's sleeping with a First Order spy and doesn't really give a gently caress except for her. Self-explanatory.

12) Luke Skywalker, if you ignore most of his idiotic expository dialogue. The actual antagonist of the series, moreso than Palpatine. Ruins everything, learns nothing. He's glad to be dead, and so are we.

13) The BB-8/AT-ST Hybrid. Neither is interesting on their own but, by their power combined, we do get an interesting character for like five seconds.

14) Everyone else.

15) Maz Kanata. The single worst character in Star Wars history.

ruddiger posted:

Eh, he doesn’t seem to beat up about it when the buzz droids do his astromech at the beginning of RotS. And not sure how much the Clone Wars cartoon counts, but there’s a whole arc where R2 gets captured by the Separatists and Obi Wan admonishes Anakin for never wiping R2s memory, potentially putting any rebellion intelligence known by r2 at risk.

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In the rebels' holographic simulation (a beautiful effect), the Death Star is shown in a geostationary (well, endorstationary) orbit. It is also shown as being only a few Death-Star-radii from the surface, and certainly less than one Endor-radius.

There is a contradiction here. For the stationary orbit to be that close, either the planet spins in only a few hours, or it has very light gravity. The scenes on Endor's surface showed no evidence of either of the above.

Possible fixes: even when only partially operational, the Death Star could levitate; or maybe the shield generating station also provided levitation until the Death Star's engines came on line. Or maybe the planet did have very light gravity, but there was a humongous mascon right under the shield station, providing "normal" gravity in the
immediate area. Except that you would expect a lake to collect...

General Dog posted:

Why did Dooku not have yellow eyes?

Jewmanji posted:

There’s nothing wrong with enjoying it, just don’t pretend that they didn’t simply crank the fan service dial to 11 the moment they announced the show. It’s pure fan service, through and through. Season 2 couldn’t have more fan service in the same way that you can’t add 1 to infinity.

Vinylshadow posted:

Well, at the time the Mandalorian takes place, Luke is alive, so...

Who's a good post-RotJ Luke-alike?

JonathonSpectre posted:

He fought a master Jedi in single combat and won, or at least got away with all his arms and legs.

Now why the clones made from him are such atrocious marksmen, well, that's just a Movie Mystery (TM).

2house2fly posted:

If you watch them in chronological order Boba Fett has this bizarre arc where he probably wants revenge on the Jedi for killing his dad, then he's a bounty hunter working for Darth Vader who used to be a Jedi, then he lives in Jabba's palace and falls in a hole and dies

Brother Entropy posted:

the guy who sucked poo poo and died was cheapened because it turns out he was just one of many many many guys who sucked poo poo and died

teagone posted:

Sebastian Stan

Ingmar terdman posted:

When trevorrow got canned I was really hoping for Rian to direct 9, but I guess he was attached to his own trilogy back then. Lol to that being memory holed but also good for Rian on being the only young director to survive star wars with a career. The cartoon man with the wolf fetish and the hats is on track to becoming the chief creative at lucasfilm in a few years

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mllaneza posted:

Yeah, that's a pro-click. That actually adds depth to Guinnesses' acting.