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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

*dubstep intensifies*


I think this deserves its own thread.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/14/589087523/supreme-court-rules-states-are-free-to-legalize-sports-betting

quote:

The Supreme Court has struck down a 1992 federal law that effectively prevented most states from legalizing sports betting, clearing up a legal gray area and opening a door for state governments to join in what has become a lucrative industry.

"Congress can regulate sports gambling directly, but if it elects not to do so, each State is free to act on its own," the court wrote in a decision released Monday.

The law called the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, passed in 1992, prohibited sports betting, except in four states where it had already been legalized Nevada, Delaware, Montana and Oregon. It gave the other states one year to legalize such betting, if they wanted to do so.

As a Texan, I'l fully expecting sports books opening in town by the beginning of football season.

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ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

They did not "declare it legal in 50 states". They declared that any state can legalize it if they want to. Some are moving faster than others on this but nothing has changed on that front yet.

I've seen a lot of chicken littles whining that there will be widespread game fixing in sports now. In pro sports, no way, because even if sports betting is eventually as widespread as lottery kiosks, it's still too expensive to do. Now, in college sports, where the players are hugely exploited? Yeah we could definitely see another point-shaving scandal. But of course the solution to that is to stop allowing the NCAA to operate as a cartel that violates antitrust law.

What will really be disastrous is what this does to labor bargaining. The next step here is the Big Four say "whoa we can't have all this gambling! uh unless we all get a cut of the action so we can, um, 'protect the integrity of our sport' to 'maintain the public's trust'." Orrin Hatch is already on that, you can be certain they will make sure their crocodile tears about legitimacy are used to guarantee them a cut of money they aren't entitled to in the slightest. And once they get that money, it will be excluded from every CBA's definition of "revenue", and players can either deal with that or get locked out.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


How do you feel about commentators talking about odds during the game? Because we had that in Australia until people got so sick of it the government told them to cut it out.

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

For a while now virtually every commercial during US sports events are either for beer, dick pills, or daily fantasy sports sites which already were, essentially, gambling

spanky69
Nov 5, 2004
I THINK sba HAS LOST HIS MIND. WOOOOOO DOGGIES PUPPIES KITTENS CRAP TURDS, love sba

Fun Shoe

I think it is a race between New Jersey and Delaware to see who can have the sports books up first

I wonder if this means the return of the Sports Gambling thread in SAS

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How do you feel about commentators talking about odds during the game? Because we had that in Australia until people got so sick of it the government told them to cut it out.

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

As long as it's not a tit, no one in America gives a poo poo what kids see.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011

just one more spin

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

lol what about it? an advertisement is going to turn a child into a gambler? like beer ads turn them into alcoholics?

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:




MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:

lol what about it? an advertisement is going to turn a child into a gambler? like beer ads turn them into alcoholics?

maybe not specifically OH NO KIDS SEEING TV ADS

but gambling addiction is just as destructively devastating to lives as alcohol addiction so the states that are interested have a lot of ground to work on in that sense if they're gonna do this thing

in other words i bet suicide and robbery rates will go up in states that go for it and insufficient help will be provided for the people who can't stop abusing themselves, just like everywhere else

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land






Gambling owns, though I would never do it as that would be the time Corey loving Brewer drops a 50 point game

PAPSA was a dumb law that tried to make sports gambling illegal in all states except Nevada. Turns out, that law has some issues

Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 23:34 on May 15, 2018

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Tons of states already have casinos and lotteries and horse racing and keno and it's all heavily advertised and all they do is put disclaimers with 800 numbers for problem gambling hotlines

This is not a pandoras box, the truly degenerate sports gamblers didn't need a legal place to spend their money

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:




ElwoodCuse posted:

Tons of states already have casinos and lotteries and horse racing and keno and it's all heavily advertised and all they do is put disclaimers with 800 numbers for problem gambling hotlines

This is not a pandoras box, the truly degenerate sports gamblers didn't need a legal place to spend their money

yeah i probably turned on the doom and gloom a little hard, but i live in las vegas and watching your grandmother degenerate from endless keno and slots does that to you :shrug:

(e) and yeah, literally all the casinos do is put out the legally mandated When The Fun Stops brochures on a few tables here and there and wash their hands of the people losing everything in the hopes of a little bit more of that gambling endorphin rush

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008




Toilet Rascal

You can't spell freedom without point spread.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007


I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How do you feel about commentators talking about odds during the game? Because we had that in Australia until people got so sick of it the government told them to cut it out.

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

I wouldn't like it, it would be annoying.

Frankly, considering the way the internet is irritating now, children are screwed.

It's going to be like the nuisance of the daily fantasy ads, but all the time.

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

I wonder to what extent this decision will increase live sports viewership. Surely it will have to have some sort of positive effect, as I know I'm trying to watch every game I drop some dough on so I can see the networks looking to get in on state-level lobbying.

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MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011

just one more spin

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How do you feel about commentators talking about odds during the game? Because we had that in Australia until people got so sick of it the government told them to cut it out.

Also what about the issue of children being exposed to gambling advertisements?

it would be very fuckin irritating and i dont even watch much sports. i already feel like it's always "this player put up this stat and wow the last time that happened was bulls v pacers in 1984" for the entire broadcast

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