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Happy to see the thread again. All that FF5 discussion in the megathread a month back or so got me really antsy for fiesta season to start. Does anyone know the exact weights that jobs are given in popular mode? Or if popular mode is even still gonna be a thing, for that matter? I've got a little project I'm working on.
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 15:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 15:00 |
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agradine posted:I'm not aware of any random battles that serve as roadblocks. It's a good thing summoner is broken in boss battles too, then.
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# ¿ May 24, 2018 17:47 |
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Just lol if your chicken knife isn't already at full power by the time you pick it up.
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# ¿ May 26, 2018 00:04 |
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OK, so this year my goal is to gun for a party with ninja and geomancer in it so I can test out The Silliest Omega Kill, but I wasn't sure whether I was better off going chaos or pure chaos to achieve this. I mathed it out and as it happens, the lack of dupes in pure chaos doesn't quite outweigh the two extra jobs in the pool. Unless you specifically want freelancer/mime, chaos is always slightly better than pure chaos for getting you any given pair of jobs. Then, because I'm a huge math nerd and apparently I have way too much time on my hands, I ran the calculations for all the jobs in just about every mode that I could, and this was the result: Fiesta Job Combo Probability Tool It's not very pretty right now, but it should be fully functional. Feel free to let me know if you spot any issues.
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# ¿ May 27, 2018 18:51 |
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derra posted:What is the Silliest Omega Kill? Due to a perfect storm of weird interactions, I'm pretty sure a geomancer (or ninja) dual wielding rune chime and some other bell can always hit and damage Omega without incurring any counters.
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# ¿ May 28, 2018 02:33 |
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Maybe forbidden is the inverse of normal? A crystal will never give you one of its own jobs.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2018 18:56 |
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Ah, screw it, I'll try out forbidden once before slam picking chaos for the rest of the summer. No risk though, I think that's gonna be an every other year thing for me.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2018 03:31 |
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The laws of the universe -- mean nothing...
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2018 03:09 |
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Angling Dragon posted:Oh yeah, Fiesta time! Been looking forward to this ever since last year's ended. Going normal again (but risky) to start at least, hopefully this will be smoother than my run last year. Speaking of, got what I hope is a good warm-up challenge. So I started this up a couple days ago, got to Karnak, everything's going swimmingly. I think to myself: mystic knight makes liquid flame basically free, I don't really need to stock up on potions just yet. I get to the end of the fire ship, and liquid flame is kicking my rear end. OK fine, I could probably stand to have a few more levels anyway. A bit of grinding later, and liquid flame... is still kicking my rear end. What the hell is going on? I revisited things today, and eventually I muddle through, but it takes literally all of the healing I have on hand, elixirs included. I go through the escape sequence, walk back into town, and realize... I forgot to buy the -ra spells. I feel stupid now. I guess I'm showing myself how it's done.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2018 02:38 |
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Things a freelancer can do that a berserker (without extra abilities) cannot: Break rods Inflict paralyze Inflict blind Inflict sleep Inflict old Cast every black and white spell in the game Cast every summon in the game Cast cura on demand Cast raise on demand Cast berserk on demand Cast haste on demand Deal effective damage to humans Deal effective damage to beasts Deal effective damage to dragons Wear ribbons Refresh the mirage vest ...and probably a bunch of other stuff that I can't recall right off hand
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2018 18:28 |
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You get two hairpins for free, why do you even need a third? Running out of MP is almost never a legitimate concern in FFV anyway.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 03:33 |
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Angling Dragon posted:The Show Me How Its Done Challenge Too late for a donation, but here's my clears! I don't think I've ever actually seen the solo Krile ending before. Man, it's a real downer.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 00:05 |
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Can confirm, I dropped a save state in front of Shinryu's chest but I didn't use any in the fight itself. You better believe I used one at the beginning of the crystal dragon encounter, though. That said, it got significantly less tedious once I looked up crystal dragon's stat block and discovered that it's vulnerable to sleep.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 00:44 |
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FreeKillB posted:
Huh, it never occurred to me that you could skip turning in the first tablet. Isn't the first visit to the sealed castle what triggers the cutscene of Exdeath talking to the monsters in the rift? What happens if you get all four tablets without turning them in, go all the way to Necrophobe, then back out of the rift and go to the castle for the first time?
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 05:28 |
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Ah, my bad.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 05:33 |
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Ok, so I was right. I still want to know what happens if you kill them all and then go back to trigger the scene though. Probably nothing changes but hey, the game does somehow have a flag for "has gone around the world on Boko," so I wouldn't put anything past it.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 06:26 |
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I just got to the water crystal, and the hardest part of forbidden isn't dealing with the GBA jobs, or having one of your jobs locked out in the void. No, the hardest part of forbidden is that if you roll white mage, you have a ~43% chance of having to take 4 white mages through the Karnak 500. I normally take a stance of no treasure left behind, but I'm going to have to make an exception this time. Who needs elixirs with a white mage around, anyway?
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2018 05:52 |
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Team white mage flailed its way through the Karnak 500! After several failed attempts, I decided I needed to skip esuna too. Lix isn't that far away, it's not a big deal. Could've peeked at my fire job early to know if it was safe to skip the ribbon instead, but that wouldn't be ~honorable~. (It was safe to skip the ribbon instead.) Even doing that, savescumming to get a solo gigas encounter from the elven mantle chest, and skipping iron claw, I still only had about ten seconds left.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2018 01:58 |
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Zerilan posted:Haven't really fought Omega with very many party combinations. Would a natural ff1 run of Thf/Blm/Whm/Knt have reasonable means of taking him down? Mayyybe? White mage should make it relatively easy to survive Omega's attack routine, and for offense you can do the "3x reflect ring and thundaga your party" trick to avoid counters. The only issue is that since this is natural, I'm not sure if just one white mage will be able to pick people off the ground fast enough. Actually, with white mage, it might be better to apply reflect manually and leave the rings at home. That frees up the accessory slot for something like hermes sandals or flame rings and lets you heal/cast shell on people while they're still standing.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2018 00:15 |
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If you have summoner and feel obligated to grab all the summons, Phoenix cheeses Wendigo hard because the way its targeting works lets you ignore the gimmick entirely. Probably not worth the detour if you weren't already planning on going to the tower, though.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2018 22:34 |
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The black flames give pretty solid exp too, which could be either good or bad depending on how you feel about ending up overleveled. Getting enough cash for four flame rings will probably have you end up somewhere in the high 20s, which admittedly isn't necessarily overleveled for some parties, but it is for most at that point.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2018 06:25 |
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CeallaSo posted:
You don't really need coral rings for Shinryu if you're berserking him. Hermes sandals work just fine. Also you can get white wind from hellraisers in Exdeath's castle.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2018 13:26 |
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Also random already doesn't give repeats.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 20:16 |
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I think I was the one who made that comment, and I admit I was exaggerating a little bit, but I definitely feel like if you're diligent about running from things, you should be somewhere north of 100 power when you pick up the knife. 59 seems really low to me. I can think of a few things about my playstyle specifically that might be causing the discrepancy. When I'm doing a grinding session, I usually pick and choose which encounters in the area I'm in that I actually want to fight. I also almost always grab all the treasures in a dungeon regardless of whether I actually need them, which raises the amount of time that I spend running around in dungeons overall. Or it could be an encounter rate thing, who knows?
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2018 00:40 |
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He's talking about his party in general, not the monk specifically. None of those classes have sword access, and you can't use spellblade with katanas for whatever reason, so knives are his only option, period. ...can you use spellblade with the ninja exclusive knives and maneater?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2018 17:32 |
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I mean, you could do a natural run with the randomizer, but why would you?
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2018 18:02 |
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Finally got my first run done. White mage/beastmaster/Leraika posted:Also. time: One more forbidden Exodia for the pile: derra posted:Ok, I'll get in on this. You guys fight too much. And my levels: Omega got locked down with calm spam and then very slowly cleansing'd to death. If I were smarter I would have saved some yellow dragons to help speed things along, and I also wouldn't have accidentally released one of my birds and undone several cleansings worth of damage. Shinryu got berserked as usual, with a side of berserking my whisker wielder too. NED was tough to pull off without getting more levels, because my dudes were so frail that even with shell up almagest was usually a wipe, but eventually I got a run where two people held on, and I didn't give the piece a chance to get a second one off.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2018 09:12 |
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The back piece of NED has always had death immunity. What it lacks is heavy status. Generally, there are two kinds of death effects: those that fail on targets with immunity to death, and those that fail on heavy targets. The assassin dagger proc is the former. Odin (via magic lamp) is the latter. Then there's level 5 death, which doesn't give a poo poo about either. E:f;b
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2018 19:58 |
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Unless you're bailing out of dungeons early, there's only like five dungeons that teleport is even relevant for. Of those, only drakenvale is required, and the rest include world 3 north mountain, which is short and still has world 1 encounters so who cares, undersea trench, which you have no business being in unless you have a time mage anyway, and phoenix tower, in which case you knew what you signed up for. Walking out of island shrine does suck, though. I swapped to time mage to warp out of exdeath's castle once to go confuse some eagles. It now occurs to me that as long as I was cheating I might as well have just cast float instead. I think I might have done some statue grinding too, though. Cattail Prophet fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jul 25, 2018 |
# ¿ Jul 25, 2018 08:03 |
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Artemis bow is good too, if you've got a ranger. It helps a lot for rushing down the almagest piece of NED.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2018 05:01 |
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Ranger is one of the easier physical classes to have to fight Omniscient with because the sheer damage output of rapid fire chicken knife means you only need to land like 7 mage masher procs.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2018 23:58 |
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Today I discovered a cutscene that I never knew existed. This loving game.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2018 15:23 |
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Jose Valasquez posted:You gotta tell us which one On the one hand I'd love nothing more than to do that, but on the other hand I have an idea for a toxx for next year that it'd be a part of and I don't want to give it away. On the other other hand, it wouldn't ruin the whole toxx and there's a long time until next year, so sure. You know how normally there's a soldier that stops you from entering King Tycoon's room? What if you tried going in at a time where everyone was distracted?
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2018 17:24 |
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Remember to steal mythril knives from wyverns in the tower!
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2018 16:00 |
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The Golem battle versions of the enemies can still be controlled, right? Even if you don't have a way to damage them without breaking control or hitting Golem too, you can at least shut down one enemy while you focus on taking down the other one.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2018 16:38 |
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poo poo, I was planning on using the 3x reflect ring strat for Omega but I forgot to hold on to a set of diamond gear. Probably should have kept some sage surplices too. I've got enough time to walk back out of the rift, but do I really want to? E: Wait, I don't have a heavy armor or shield job, so I can only equip one piece anyway. gently caress it, Omega gets to live. Cattail Prophet fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Sep 1, 2018 |
# ¿ Sep 1, 2018 03:30 |
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Lol Almagest got petrified by a reflected delta attack.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2018 04:39 |
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I wonder if it's just gonna be Chrono Trigger again or if RK's got something else planned.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2018 01:21 |
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The best part was at the end when they admitted the game was silly enough already that it didn't need a parody. The worst part was every other part.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2018 19:10 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 15:00 |
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No summoning them, though, since you do that through the magic menu. But magicite shards are OK, I guess!
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2018 03:10 |