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CCKeane posted:I'll hold off for B-, then. Appreciated
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Yeah I didn’t really get the thread of how AA indicated Pod is cult either
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Jun 14, 2018 00:41
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CCKeane posted:I'll hold off for B-, then. I’m just happy that someone else finally agrees with me that pod is scum/cult/whatever haha. Obviously keane needs to explain himself more. But for now I am more than happy to be the first to vote pod
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Jun 14, 2018 01:51
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Sure. So the big discussion before was "WHY WOULD POD DO THAT IF HE WAS SCUM", but that doesn't cover the possibility of an alignment change happening OR the possibility of Pod being scum and not picked up on by AA, which jives with the flavor of AA's results. If Pod is scum, then his behavior as a cult member makes 100% sense. It's the play to make, you eliminate a power role, end up looking townie, and if AA flips cop, clears you.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:09
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Podima posted:AA. Most pertinently. Why in God’s name would I counter you if I was scum and you claimed a town flavor result on me, naive claim or not? This point is no longer relevant.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:09
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Keane what’s your alignment? Not asking you to fullclaim, just alignment
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Jun 14, 2018 02:26
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CCKeane posted:Mine is very similar to the sample PM listed as well. I thought I explicitly claimed earlier, but looks like I just hinted at it. I am town aligned.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:28
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b-minus1 posted:Wild-aligned: correct, though i am town i'll flip wild aligned. Slamburger posted:I see no harm in claiming: I'm Council are you council or town who will flip council? i'm feeling pedantic.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:32
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Thanks. Now how do we explain alasadair’s death? Obviously cult didn’t kill him. I would imagine his cult teammates would advise against trying to cult AS. I think I already said this but any vig, town or 3p should consider claiming.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:35
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Moatillata posted:Also it really hurt us. I really believe the PGO claim now because it would make sense to have one to offset the cult recruiter yep :/ i'm gunna be alone at the end with a bunch of cultists aren't i merk whats your read on pod? forget me, for just a moment. Podima posted:Pinterest Mom: hi pod, i wanted to ask you about this again and why that pmom post read as town to you, apologies if i missed the answer first time round
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Jun 14, 2018 02:36
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b-minus1 posted:Thanks. yeah he didn't visit me if flavour to be believed. can a follower even recruit? the other kill from n1 was db, who was a lunch candidate. so someone suspicious and someone not posting/cult. not sure a vig should claim though esp if they have charges left.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:42
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Hello I'm not culted. I am not town-aligned, but I am a town-friendly third party. My flavor is that I was a former cop victimized by St. Leroux (the guy who mindcontrolled the town into massacre) twenty years ago - I got kicked off the force for not arresting him, and have been after him for years since. My win condition is to see St. Leroux dead. My PM specifically indicates that this win condition is not mutually exclusive to town's, but I am self-aligned. I don't want to fullclaim at this point but this is useful information for town to know: - I killed Dick Bastardly on Night 1 because at the time I was very suss on him (as you will see by my attempts to push a vote near deadline). I admit to being mistaken about thinking he was PR hunting in my first post on D2, I realized this after I submitted my night action. - I killed Alasdair last night. My rationale should be obvious. I specifically had two different methods of killing, hence variance in flavor. The "suicide" kill on N1 is the only non-me kill in the game and fits with St. Leroux's flavor, so I can only conclude that scum kills are being blocked and/or other stuff is happening. I have a wild theory about the "cult" but I'll save it for another post. This is also why I came down like a ton of bricks on AA when he produced a town result on me, because I knew it was simply not true. Same basic idea for Sal - when St. Leroux mind-controlled me 20 years ago in my flavor, I was intensely aware of what I was being forced to do. ---- While rereading my PM, I also noticed something interesting. My PM flavor is quite clear that the survivors of the massacre were specifically the people who were NOT at the marketplace on market day when it all went down. In light of that, this feels like a slip: Hal Incandenza posted:That fits, I’m VT and I was just better at killing everyone before they got me Is anyone willing to claim flavor for survival that sounds similar to this? I realize that the VT PM looks something like that, and I'm wondering if that's a bit of an Ecco trick.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:44
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Hal Incandenza posted:So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense I don't like that Hal presents this as his takeaway after merk/Slamburger have claimed council but before any confirmation of being non-VT. If anything, THIS feels like someone who is thinking about where the PRs are.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:47
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Also what is the value-add of saying that as town? Why point out the PRs? I had guessed that council-aligned was PRs a day or two back after AA flipped, which is why I basically never cased moat.
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Jun 14, 2018 02:49
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IllegallySober posted:So you're now outing yourself as a power role, Slam? I should have combined this with the previous two posts - why ask this question? What is the benefit to town here?
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Jun 14, 2018 02:50
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Moatillata posted:Hence my reaction Moatillata posted:And I'm still not seeing what you're saying. Bminus can you explain it to me please since you seem to have figured it out CCKeane posted:I'll hold off for B-, then. b-minus1 posted:I’m just happy that someone else finally agrees with me that pod is scum/cult/whatever haha. Obviously keane needs to explain himself more. But for now I am more than happy to be the first to vote pod Also this interaction makes me feel better about Keane, since I too was suspicious of b- agreeing so readily with Keane's post when I had no idea what he was getting at. I still don't think b's answer is terribly good, but I can still see this as falling into his tunneling frustrated town from the previous days. --- Keane - one powerful argument against me being cult: If I was cult on the previous day, I would absolutely have demanded that you be recruited last night based on our gentleman's agreement from the last Eccogame that I never got a chance to deliver on. --- My crackpot theory about the cult - the flavor mentions that Johnmeindair was willing to kill for him. I'm wondering if the cult does not have free recruitment - but is instead just a reskinned scumteam with a night kill (as evidenced by D1), to go with all the other alignment fuckery in this game. For example, why in god's name would ANY cult recruiter recruit JFisk/Meinberg/Alasdair with the constant revolving door of replacements and garbage posts? I think it's more likely that Fiskbergfish started the game as a baddie. (That's not discounting the possibility of recruitment altogether, but I don't think it's a standard free-recruit cult.) That would also explain the existence of a cult cop alongside a naive cop and (presumably) some other kind of alignment cop to go with the wacky alignments in this game - the cult cop would be the useful one, while the alignment cops would be red herrings for town.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:00
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I didn’t even notice the sample PM because I’m a terrible person but that’s pretty much exactly my PM Also I had the same idea you did Pod re: cult being the scum this game after yesterday’s flip.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:06
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Podima posted:Also what is the value-add of saying that as town? Why point out the PRs? I had guessed that council-aligned was PRs a day or two back after AA flipped, which is why I basically never cased moat. What’s the point of saying it as scum when I could just say it in my scumchat? I said it because alignments are odd this game and I was thinking it out with everyone else because sharing info is important in this game. I assume scum already figured that out since they are more invested in needing that info
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Jun 14, 2018 03:07
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Podima posted:Hello I'm not culted. I am not town-aligned, but I am a town-friendly third party. My flavor is that I was a former cop victimized by St. Leroux (the guy who mindcontrolled the town into massacre) twenty years ago - I got kicked off the force for not arresting him, and have been after him for years since. My win condition is to see St. Leroux dead. My PM specifically indicates that this win condition is not mutually exclusive to town's, but I am self-aligned. What is the actual name of your alignment
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Jun 14, 2018 03:18
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pod did you try to kill anyone night 2? worried moat has been culted given he's the other person who claimed council day 1
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Jun 14, 2018 03:19
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Moatillata posted:What is the actual name of your alignment Self-aligned, explicitly. Atomic Soda posted:pod did you try to kill anyone night 2? No.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:21
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Hal Incandenza posted:What’s the point of saying it as scum when I could just say it in my scumchat? I said it because alignments are odd this game and I was thinking it out with everyone else because sharing info is important in this game. I assume scum already figured that out since they are more invested in needing that info It feels like non-content to me, rather than something coming from a townie point of view. Alignments are one thing but PR chat is another.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:21
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Pod who are your top candidate(s?) for cult or lethal non-town
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Jun 14, 2018 03:38
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Podima posted:Also this interaction makes me feel better about Keane, since I too was suspicious of b- agreeing so readily with Keane's post when I had no idea what he was getting at. I still don't think b's answer is terribly good, but I can still see this as falling into his tunneling frustrated town from the previous days. I'm reading this and just shooting air out the sides of my mouth and thinking about this.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:39
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Podima posted:Hello I'm not culted. I am not town-aligned, but I am a town-friendly third party. My flavor is that I was a former cop victimized by St. Leroux (the guy who mindcontrolled the town into massacre) twenty years ago - I got kicked off the force for not arresting him, and have been after him for years since. My win condition is to see St. Leroux dead. My PM specifically indicates that this win condition is not mutually exclusive to town's, but I am self-aligned. My flavor is also that I was not in the town while the massacre happened.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:40
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CCKeane posted:My flavor is also that I was not in the town while the massacre happened. Ugh, edit: my flavor also confirms that I was not in the town while the massacre happened.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:42
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I think we are at a point where everyone needs to claim. At the very least, we need to know alignment, and then go from there.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:45
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b-minus1 posted:I think we are at a point where everyone needs to claim. At the very least, we need to know alignment, and then go from there. Let's go with flavor as well. I was fishing.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:47
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Holy poo poo. I just read my whole pm for the first time lol. I was in the market and I stabbed someone in the eye and gut. Because the voice told me to. . Fuckin rekt
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Jun 14, 2018 03:53
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b-minus1 posted:Holy poo poo. I just read my whole pm for the first time lol. I was in the market and I stabbed someone in the eye and gut. Because the voice told me to. . Fuckin rekt Yeah I hosed some dudes up there too, feel kinda bad but the voice made so yeah
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Jun 14, 2018 03:58
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##vote: Pod I believe you're self aligned. I don't believe your win condition aligns with town.
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Jun 14, 2018 04:02
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I pretty much already claimed but I was hiding under a desk when the whole thing went down.
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Jun 14, 2018 04:10
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b-minus1 posted:Pod who are your top candidate(s?) for cult or lethal non-town Strongest on Hal, beyond that here are my iffy secondaries with pros/cons: IS - Scum: I can't put my finger on it but I feel like they've been on the periphery a lot this game. - Town: I don't feel that town would have done the "ok let's thunderdome" yesterday, that's a step further than I'd suspect scum of going. Merk - Scum: the dwelling on AS is really Not Good at this point. - Town: Their claim of council-aligned seems genuine-ish? Looking back at PMom's early game posting I see hints at that as well. Council doesn't mean guaranteed town but still it's something. (On the topic of Merk/AS: Atomic Soda posted:hi pod, i wanted to ask you about this again and why that pmom post read as town to you, apologies if i missed the answer first time round I'm not sure what you're asking here? It was a fair callout of Slamburger at the time, over-focus on setup spec/mechanics vs. casing is a no-no.) I also don't like bminus' "oops i just read my PM for the first time and I was in the market lol!" but I'm making myself not glare too hard at that because it may be partially omgus.
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Jun 14, 2018 04:13
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CCKeane posted:##vote: Pod Why do you say this? Do you have reason to believe that you win with St. Leroux?
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Jun 14, 2018 04:14
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Pod your entire claim really feels like stickups nola aligned claim from shine. Do you have unlimited vigs?
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Jun 14, 2018 04:14
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hi pod, does anything specific happen if the cult tries to recruit you?Podima posted:
i live outside the village and visit like once a year. i was skinning a deer when i heard the ruckus and came to check it out. why would bminus come out and say this isn't the case with him do you reckon?
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Jun 14, 2018 04:17
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I'm not claiming brutal redirector, come on now.
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Jun 14, 2018 04:17
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Atomic Soda posted:hi pod, does anything specific happen if the cult tries to recruit you? Decline to answer. quote:why would bminus come out and say this isn't the case with him do you reckon? Frankly I don't know what to make of it. It may be just me chasing shadows, but I still would vote Hal separate from the flavor stuff.
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Jun 14, 2018 04:18
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Hmm. This is the first time I’m hearing about St. Leroux outside of the thread title. I just figured it was the name of the city or something haha.
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I feel like I just wanna murder half the people in this game
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