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May 23, 2018 22:38
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would his plea deal have required him to admit that the law was just in some way typically they have you apologize or something when you admit guilt iirc
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May 23, 2018 22:45
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lol i just looked it up and the federal rear end in a top hat prosecutor who got him killed was not asked to resign by obama despite the outcry, but still ended up going into early retirement right before trump took office also wtf Carmen Ortiz's husband, IBM executive Tom Dolan, replied through his own Twitter feed, @TomJDolan, "Truly incredible that in their own son's obit they blame others for his death and make no mention of the 6 month offer."[76]
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May 23, 2018 22:55
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lmao
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May 23, 2018 22:59
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nerds would send death threats like that
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May 23, 2018 23:00
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he wouldn't have served 35 years in prison. 35 years is what you get if you take the maximum sentence on all of his offenses and add them together. in reality probably all of those sentences would have been served concurrently and even under the max sentences he'd be facing something like 5 years in prison, and almost certainly way less
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May 23, 2018 23:02
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lancemantis posted:nerds would send death threats like that bottom right corner
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May 23, 2018 23:05
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death threat decison tree: from nerds on the internet? are you a woman? RUN are you a man lol nerds aint gonna do poo poo from anyone else should probably contact the authorities
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May 23, 2018 23:13
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rjmccall posted:he wouldn't have served 35 years in prison. 35 years is what you get if you take the maximum sentence on all of his offenses and add them together. in reality probably all of those sentences would have been served concurrently and even under the max sentences he'd be facing something like 5 years in prison, and almost certainly way less he would have served 6 months.
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May 23, 2018 23:17
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i think he should’ve taken the 6 months, which would still suck and feel like eternity in prison, but it would’ve been a worthwhile sacrifice and could have easily continued a long and awesome life that said, for him it may have been unimaginably stressful to face the police, fbi and the court so much that he felt he couldn’t take it and killed himself. this is a situation that almost no one in the world faces, and they were over the top and abusive. after his death, laws changed that minimized the penalties for crimes similar to his. the ones that brought these charges are psychopaths and probably don’t have an ounce of care that he died. they’re at fault for his death LP0 ON FIRE fucked around with this message at 03:01 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 00:08
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Carmen Ortiz, the federal prosecutor who hounded Aaron Swartz in the months before his Friday suicide, has released a statement arguing that "this office’s conduct was appropriate in bringing and handling this case." She says that she recognized that Swartz's crimes were not serious, and as a result she sought "an appropriate sentence that matched the alleged conduct – a sentence that we would recommend to the judge of six months in a low security setting." That's funny because the press release her office released in 2011 says that Swartz "faces up to 35 years in prison, to be followed by three years of supervised release, restitution, forfeiture and a fine of up to $1 million." And she apparently didn't think even that was enough, because last year her office piled on even more charges, for a theoretical maximum of more than 50 years in jail. If Ortiz thought Swartz only deserved to spend 6 months in jail, why did she charge him with crimes carrying a maximum penalty of 50 years?
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May 24, 2018 00:12
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lancemantis posted:death threat decison tree:
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May 24, 2018 00:45
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they can only kill billions of their potential children
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May 24, 2018 00:47
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:Carmen Ortiz, the federal prosecutor who hounded Aaron Swartz in the months before his Friday suicide, has released a statement arguing that "this office’s conduct was appropriate in bringing and handling this case." She says that she recognized that Swartz's crimes were not serious, and as a result she sought "an appropriate sentence that matched the alleged conduct – a sentence that we would recommend to the judge of six months in a low security setting." hmm. weird that internet nerds don't understand the basics of negotiation.
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May 24, 2018 00:52
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:Carmen Ortiz, the federal prosecutor who hounded Aaron Swartz in the months before his Friday suicide, has released a statement arguing that "this office’s conduct was appropriate in bringing and handling this case." She says that she recognized that Swartz's crimes were not serious, and as a result she sought "an appropriate sentence that matched the alleged conduct – a sentence that we would recommend to the judge of six months in a low security setting." prosecutors’ job is to prosecute if there is evidence of crime. they don’t get to decide what’s enough, that’s judges and juries. any judge looking at this would have said there’s not really 50 years worth of crime here, so let’s cut this down to something reasonable. if they honestly thought they could convict the guy for 50 years in prison, they would not have offered him a six month plea.
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May 24, 2018 01:40
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attempting to force a plea via overcharging is unethical as hell part of the outcry against this case was from other prosecutors who pointed to how this was egregiously against federal guidelines and how the feds were even callous when informed that the accused was a suicide risk instead they told him to expect seven years of prison if he didn’t take the plea, if he wanted a trial. that’s unethical
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May 24, 2018 02:40
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:attempting to force a plea via overcharging is unethical as hell this happens constantly to people who aren't rich and white and nobody bats an eyelash
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May 24, 2018 16:28
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qirex posted:this happens constantly to people who aren't rich and white and nobody bats an eyelash no you see this guy was special because ethical hacking
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May 24, 2018 16:31
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qirex posted:this happens constantly to people who aren't rich and white and nobody bats an eyelash yeah it's absolutely terrible and one good thing that could've come from this was making more people aware of it also aaron swartz was jewish iirc
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May 24, 2018 17:14
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:also aaron swartz was jewish iirc 
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May 24, 2018 17:22
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Sham bam bamina! posted:well there's a marginalized group disproportionately targeted by our justice system according to the ADL it's a huge problem that the police ignore antisemitic hate crimes and there's certainly widespread jury bias against them historically in the american legal profession itself there was enormous discrimination against jews, which is why there are now distinctly jewish law firms, since no one else would hire them  yeah i can see anyone in law enforcement treating someone like that just like any other white guy. sure. H.P. Hovercraft fucked around with this message at 17:36 on May 24, 2018 |
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May 24, 2018 17:34
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fair enough ed: lol @ adding "sure." after the ninja window
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May 24, 2018 17:37
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i got my negatives wrong like a dumbass
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May 24, 2018 17:43
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yeah but that's back before they all decided to pretend to be nice to jews so they can bring forth the rapture and burn in hell like they're supposed to
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May 24, 2018 18:05
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The Management posted:no you see this guy was special because ethical hacking You can say something is bad even when something else is also bad. Congrats on having the cognitive abilities of a preschooler ps.
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May 24, 2018 18:26
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Salt Fish posted:You can say something is bad even when something else is also bad. Congrats on having the cognitive abilities of a preschooler ps. I agree, your posting is bad and so is excessive punishment. but caring about some dude who thought he was data Robin Hood and self terminated when the heat was on, despite having a lousy but much better than death or life in prison plea option before him, is probably the worst.
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May 24, 2018 21:24
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was that why he did it? i thought he was trying to undermine JSTOR's defacto copyright infringement upon the owners of the contents of its library
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May 24, 2018 23:32
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The Management posted:I agree, your posting is bad and so is excessive punishment. but caring about some dude who thought he was data Robin Hood and self terminated when the heat was on, despite having a lousy but much better than death or life in prison plea option before him, is probably the worst. This is the political equivalent of being the kid in gym class who was "too cool" to try at dodgeball.
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May 25, 2018 00:10
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lancemantis posted:yeah but that's back before they all decided to pretend to be nice to jews so they can bring forth the rapture and burn in hell like they're supposed to youve got to break a few eggs to make an omelette
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May 25, 2018 02:21
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monkey's paw: aaron lived, went to prison, and became a nazi like weev
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May 25, 2018 02:36
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The Management posted:I agree, your posting is bad and so is excessive punishment. but caring about some dude who thought he was data Robin Hood and self terminated when the heat was on, despite having a lousy but much better than death or life in prison plea option before him, is probably the worst. yeah that guy was the worst. he was going through a living nightmare making him feel worthless and committed suicide. never heard of that before!
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May 25, 2018 04:27
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aaron's only crime was hanging out with quinn norton (who ratted him out)
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May 25, 2018 05:54
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may the Swartz be with youuu
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May 25, 2018 15:44
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i am writing some code where i need to have the most cutting-edge performance. after searching and searching i finally found a paper someone wrote about doing exactly the thing i am doing, but gotcha! it is behind a paywall and i can only read the abstract! $90 a year??? outrageous!!! i don't want to spend $90 on a piece of paper! i guess what i am try8ng to say op is could you tell mr szwarts to please steal that paper for me? tia
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May 25, 2018 16:42
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The Management posted:prosecutors’ job is to prosecute if there is evidence of crime. Good job erasing prosecutorial discretion from the equation. Go read about the new Philly DA and why he chose to run and make the commitments he did; it's loving great stuff and you'll learn a bunch
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May 27, 2018 04:55
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too bad he didn’t live to see scihub
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Jun 2, 2018 17:37
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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i think he was great and what he did was ethically right and i am really loving sad that he made the decision to die when his sentence would likely have been minimal. its just a tragedy all round because it would likely have been a total non-issue within a few years of him leaving prison. the documentary about him is great and it is excruciating watching his ex crying about how hard it was to rat him out
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Jun 3, 2018 00:38
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bicycle posted:the documentary about him is great and it is excruciating watching his ex crying about how hard it was to rat him out so why did she rat him out
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Jun 3, 2018 09:07
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honestly probably the same kind of low key lawyer pressure that caused swartz to kill himself :-(
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Jun 3, 2018 09:34
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because she’s scum. reminder that she got fired from her big tech journo gig in under a day for being a Nazi
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