Old-school D&D/Retroclones: (Rolls the die, but it doesn't matter what the result is)

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alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Two blogs I follow have recently posted about the alt-right in the OSR. I know ACKs is run by Milo's manager. I know James Raggi posts about Varg. What else is there?

sources: https://axesnorcs.blogspot.com/2018/05/i-dont-know-bad-of-alt-right-problem.html

http://dungeonofsigns.blogspot.com/2018/05/goodbye-and-good-luck.html

# ¿ May 29, 2018 02:19

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 17:59

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Sorry, the OP was really really long

# ¿ May 29, 2018 02:57

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

I know we had discussed things like Tenkar bending the knee in the old thread so I didn't think it was any different in this thread. I've been threatened on G+ in the past for even bringing up diversity so no way was I going to ask about those posts there. And trade games as a subforum is pretty anti-OSR that I've seen so I don't really discuss it outside of the old thread and this thread.

I can respect the rules of this thread but I too think it's important to point out known shitheads

# ¿ May 29, 2018 04:49

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Obviously I'm completely on board with the OSR playstyle so DCC and some OSR modules, in that regard, are much better. I definitely prefer the art, probably because pencil art in RPGs is what I grew up on. I much prefer the scaled down style of OSR modules as well. I don't want to have to read through many pages of backstory or many pages of read aloud text. Lastly I prefer DCC modules over anything Paizo or WOTC would produce because they are rooted in pulp fantasy literature, rather than being self referential of their own fiction from the 90s. So obviously sword and sorcery tales excite me and my players much more than Forgotten Realms or anything Paizo creates.

For reference, I believe Sailors on the Starless Sea and Conflict at the Court of Chaos to be some of the top tier DCC modules. Sailors makes the players feel absolutely badass at level 1. Same with Conflict.

# ¿ May 29, 2018 11:19

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

A Dying Earth setting is being worked on by Goodman Games for DCC too

Edit: :argh:

# ¿ May 31, 2018 18:15

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

I would probably start by reading A Quick Primer for Old School Gaming, then ask more specific questions about specific systems you are interested in.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2018 14:40

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Sailors is absolutely the best. Put on Black Sabbath, turn the lights down a little and really get into that module and you will sell the system easily. The final battle on the ziggurat is just so much more than any other low level adventure I've seen.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2018 22:47

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

You could have them play a group of level ones each. I just usually have them pick one they like the best

# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 01:39

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Nothing about MCC seems thought through. I like the parts that are there, and I could definitely construct a campaign with it as long as DCC was involved too, but DCC is really much more of a complete game.

MCC should have been a boxed set like Lankhmar, Purple Planet, etc.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2018 15:27

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

It's similar but more focused on weird than pure grimdark.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2018 13:51

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Death metal owns, what OSR stuff is based on it?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2018 22:26

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

andrew smash posted:

I’ve been leafing through the DCC core book recently and just wondered about some of the semi-fluff stuff relating to classes and alignments - like, the warrior entry implies neutral warriors are all barbarians with appropriate titles, etc. Is that mostly considered an example for players without strong notions of how they want to play their character? Is it generally acceptable for someone who wants a neutral warrior (for example) to be a mercenary instead, or whatever else they like? If i ever get to play this I will almost certainly be the GM so ultimately I know i can change whatever I want, but I am curious about how others have used those rules.

Some of the more thematic stuff I think I would leave in place - I really like the idea of chaotic wizards being a bunch of demon groupies, for example.

Its all just ideas. You can do whatever you want with your alignment, attitude, etc.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2018 21:41

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

It's cool to have options for stuff :shobon:

# ¿ Jun 12, 2018 13:46

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Wereseal sounds broken as sh*t

# ¿ Jun 13, 2018 19:07

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

DCC #84 Peril on the Purple Planet is a mini hex crawl.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 19:14

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Also, Free RPG Day is Saturday, there are products for LotFP (dude magic of some kind), DCC (quick start rules + 2 adventures) and Tunnels and Trolls (Japan magazine with adventure and quick start rules)

I'll be running a funnel and a level 1 adventure for DCC Road Crew at my FLGS, it should be a blast

# ¿ Jun 14, 2018 21:33

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

drrockso20 posted:

So since there's nowhere within 50 miles or so of me that is doing Free RPG Day, anyone here who does have access want to pick up the DCC stuff for me, I'll pay for shipping plus a little extra too

If I can grab one I'll send it to you for shipping

# ¿ Jun 15, 2018 00:28

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Andrew and drrocks PM me, I got y'all DCC

# ¿ Jun 16, 2018 20:37

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Cool, got both your addresses. Will send on Monday

# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 01:44

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Labyrinth Lord all in one book up on Kickstarter. It's for a print on demand version, so I assume you pay rpgnow too.

Advanced Labyrinth Lord, via @Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1895361773/advanced-labyrinth-lord

# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 02:55

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Tenkar is now promoting Macris' new Kickstarter and deleting comments about his views

alg fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 18, 2018

# ¿ Jun 18, 2018 15:40

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

90s Cringe Rock posted:

extremely apolitical. "Information on that topic, and arguments on it's validity or lack thereof, is readily available in many places already. There's no reason it needs to be covered again here." thanks comment-poster, it's important that the neutrality of tenkar's tavern not be violated by mentioning that the promoted work is by the ceo of literally "milo inc"

Tenkar just made an insane manbaby rant podcast about it.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2018 03:01

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Sailors on the Starless Sea is really the best

# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 13:11

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

lemonslol posted:

I just played my first game of DCC. The level 0 funnel was hard for me to get into. I didn't like the idea of playing four characters at once. It made role-playing difficult.

Is that something I just get used to? When it was described to me I imagined you rolled four characters and introduced them to the party after another character expired.

Your characters are nobodies until they make 1st level. You're not really supposed to get attached to them until they level up and become someone.

I suppose you could roleplay them in the funnel but they are basically shitfarmers thrust into a bad situation, not heroes.

# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 01:19

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

However you want, you just level up to 1 in the class you desire

# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 13:55

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Adventurers Almanac, monster and dungeon alphabet contain a lot of stuff for DCC (and any OSR game really) as does Writing Adventure Modules That Don't Suck. But I use the wildernessrl rules from Rules Compendiumif I need them.

# ¿ Jun 25, 2018 16:16

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

WiiFitForWindows8 posted:

Stop. Please.

Anyway, I just pledged to said Kickstarter. Sakkara is an excellent KotB clone, and this should be good too. Threw in for Advanced LL but I might just drop that and get S&W instead...I hate Descending armor class.

There was a post here about LotFP's new rules.

I'm conflicted on them. There's nothing wrong with changing poo poo up, LotFP is a pretty "old" system and Raggi's admitted he's bored of it a little bit. There's a lot of ODD in it, but I dunno how much I like some of the changes

Is Trump Lover real or ironic?

# ¿ Jun 27, 2018 19:32

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Macris allowed Vox Day to donate money for one of his ACKS supplements to put art of a demon eating 'SJWs' in and have a special class.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/03/dark-lord-character-class.html

Macris has a private twitter now, but it displayed his repugnant views about the fall of Western civilization for a long time. He was also one of the people who created Gamergate as a phenomenon.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2018 01:19

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Portal Under the Stars is cool but Sailors on the Starless Sea is worth whatever the PDF costs. It's a much more exciting intro to DCC.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2018 13:21

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

I'm glad someone discusses physical stuff because I've no use for PDFs and the art/design involved are half the reason I buy this stuff.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2018 18:49

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Hollismason posted:

So the group picked The One Who Watches From Below as their module. However, I am just noticing a big part of that is a actual cool gimmick with the face mask.

How can I translate this online? I don't think anyone wants to use webcams.

Have them print the mask when needed and turn on their webcam?

# ¿ Aug 11, 2018 12:16

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

This brutal review of the new Zak s thing came up on my RSS

https://princeofnothingblogs.wordpress.com/2018/08/12/review-frostbitten-mutilated-lotfp-half-baked-dissassociated/

# ¿ Aug 14, 2018 23:04

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Lol wow I didn't even see the footnotes

# ¿ Aug 15, 2018 01:17

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

moths posted:

Does anyone know if the old Ral Partha D&D battlesystem 15mm miniatures are available in some form anywhere?

Ebay has some at ripoff rates, but I feel like the sculpts are still being produced by Iron Wind or someone.

are they in here? this company has a lot of old Ral Partha stuff

Most of this Fighter chat sounds like it would be solved by Mighty Deeds.

# ¿ Oct 16, 2018 00:17

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Yay: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1409961192/dcc-annual-and-other-forbidden-tomes/description

Tough to choose between the Shana and Sanjulian covers

# ¿ Oct 26, 2018 10:54

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

dwarf74 posted:

It looks like I'll get to run DCC again pretty soon!

Frankly, the amount of support that DCC gets is what I need right now. Free time is limited, so the more work that's done for me, the happier I am.

I already ran Starless Sea last time I ran the game. What other 0-level adventures would you run?

And do you go with the standard 3d6 characters, 3d6-but-then-improves characters, or go to one of the typical methods like 4d6s3 or even a weird method like in the 2015 program guide, 3d7, count 7=6?

Arwich Grinder is really good. I use standard 3d6.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 03:34

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Amethyst posted:

DCC seems really cool, just reading over the modules and rulebook. The character funnel is a fantastic idea.

How's it play? Is getting characters beyond level 3 even viable? Does it end up fun for the players?

DCC is the best old school game imo. It's my favorite fantasy RPG, too. I love how nothing is reliable. Everything has a potential cost. I've been running a hexcrawl in it for over a year, sprinkling in official modules and my own homebrew. My players really like it a lot.

Amethyst posted:

Sweet. I'll run it in the next week or two and see how it goes.

Any trip reports on the Starless Sea module?

I've run it a few times and played a few times, including with the artist Doug Kovacs. It's my favorite module ever. Possibly you may want to think of leveling folks up to 1 sometime before the final encounter, it can make it a little more doable.

# ¿ Dec 5, 2018 14:25

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

VacuumJockey posted:

I don't care about proof per se. If the guy's a rapist, his victims will hopefully seek legal redress. That's where proof will come in handy.

To be completely clear about this, I'm neither condemning nor defending Zak, or the practice of beating your SO and being an insufferable egotist. But gently caress if I'm joining a lynch mob on the strength of two links to social media - none of which contain the name of the accuser(s).

When the dude's arraigned - that's when I'll bring my pitchfork to the town meeting. Until then, let's talk elf games.

gently caress off

# ¿ Feb 13, 2019 02:25

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Megazver posted:

Every time I see someone ask, people who've actually played it seem to think it's been released in a pretty bad state, not worth playing and if you want post-apoc DCC, you should use Umerica instead.

umerica and MCC are both great, but MCC should've been released as an expansion to DCC, because it basically assumes you know DCC. Also, some of the math on finding tech is rough.

The classes in MCC are more bare bones than DCC.

I like MCC, but I kind of mix all three games together.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2019 15:40

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 17:59

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

This looks like probably the best B/X clone, at a good price: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/necroticgnome/old-school-essentials

# ¿ Apr 13, 2019 12:29

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