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![]() ![]() Pokemon. Gen 3 needed some help. With Ruby and Sapphire being released in late 2002/early 2003, only 200 of the then 384 Pokemon could be obtained in some way, as well as zero compatibility with previous Pokemon games. This was somewhat rectified with FireRed and LeafGreen in 2004, but some Pokemon, especially those from Johto, were still missing. Enter Pokemon Colosseum for the Gamecube, released in late 2003/early 2004 and developed by Genius Sonority, most known for these games, but also for the Trozei series, as well as the Denpa Men series. Slated as a successor to the Pokemon Stadium series, it evolved into its own game with a story mode and, most crucially, a host of Pokemon that would be unavailable until 2005 with Pokemon Emerald and even then, not as easily as these games. The allure of playing a fully fledged game in 3D and featuring Pokemon from all 3 generations is just too good to ignore. On top of that, the story takes a different direction to the main series, with Orre as a tonally different region to others and featuring very few Pokemon to obtain as Shadow Pokemon, evil Pokemon that must be Snagged from trainers. It's also, with very few exceptions, completely filled with Double Battles and has a higher difficulty curve to go with that. Following the lull between Emerald in 2005 and Diamond and Pearl in 2007, another Gamecube game was released in 2006: Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. Edgy name aside, it follows on from Colosseum's plot 5 years after, where Shadow Pokemon are again on the rise, including an inpurifiable Lugia. Not only were both these games able to trade with the main series and be battle simulators in themselves, I think the story is something every Pokemon fan should play at one point. Up until recently, though, I hadn't. See, I only had Nintendo handhelds when I was younger, so I completely missed all these wonderful games, but no more, they should be shown off in all their wonderful glory! Sure, they're not perfect games and sure, they're a bit awkward to SSLP (you'll see soon enough), but I reckon there's a fair chunk of you who've never played this game. So with that said: ![]() ![]() This is definitely meant to be a sequel to my Emerald LP and help fill in some gaps. But you don't have to read it, it's only Pokemon after all. These games are a treat, so let me welcome you to the desert region of Orre, we've got some Shadows to Snag. Colosseum Part 1: Welcome to the World of the Wanderer Part 2: From Oasis to Hive Part 3: Catch-a-thon 2003 Part 4: Caving in Pyrite Building Part 5: SALSA! Part 6: Finally Some Gosh Darn Purification Part 7: Duking With Dakim Part 8: Down Under Part 9: Sub Under Part 10: Shadows of a Finished Plan Part 11: Started from the Bottom Part 12: Middling Intermission Part 13: A Towering Finale Part 14: Snag 'Em Holdouts Part 15: Up and Down Battling Part 16: Last Leftovers Part 17: The Ridiculous Rabbit Hole of the e-Reader (Part 3: Of Course There's More) (By Admiral H. Curtiss) Side Courses 01: Everything To Do With Shadow Pokemon (Colosseum) (From Part 7) Mini Dishes 01: Mt. Battle Prizes (From Part 7) Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:57 |
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XD: Gale of Darkness Part 1: Welcome to the World of Tonal Shifts Part 2: Portside Part 3: Arigato Agate Part 4: Early Game Late Game Part 5: Finally Some Gosh Darn Purify Chamber Part 6: Pyrite Its Wrongs Part 7: Having A Wild Time Part 8: Distracted From Distractions Part 9: The Fight for Phenac Part 10: Ship Shape Scooter Part 11: Snagless Part 12: Return of Snagem Part 13: Key Developments Part 14: Before the Citadark Part 15: Volcanic Clamber Part 16: A Very Greevil Finale Part 17: Orre You Serious? Part 18: First and Only Round Part 19: Fetching the Final Part 20: Orre Done Side Courses 02: Tutorial Battle Sims (From Part 1) 03: Everything To Do With Shadow Pokemon (XD) (From Part 5) 04: Battle CD Selection 1 (From Part 8) 05: Battle Bingo 1 (From Part 9) 06: Battle CD Selection 2 (From Part 11) 07: Battle Bingo 2 (From Part 12) 08: Battle CD Selection 3 (From Part 13) 09: Battle CD Selection 4 (From Part 15) Mini Dishes 02: Dr Kaminko's Inventions (From Part 1) 03: Battle CD 35 (From Part 11) THE SHADOW SELECTION SWEEPSTAKES FINAL Resets: 19 Colosseum: Qwilfish, Sudowoodo, Entei x2, Gligar, Vibrava, Skarmory, Absol, Metagross and Tyranitar (10) XD: Mareep, Makuhita, Pineco, Lugia x6 (19) Final Entries! 7 - FoolyCharged 8 - Epicmissingno 9 - ItBreathes 10 - BrightWing 11 - Blue Link 12 - rannum 13 - Zack Ater 14 - Regalingualius 15 - Booky 16 - MightyPretenders 17 - loving love Fiona Apple 18 - Thadius 19 - Explopyro 20 - BlazeEmblem & mateo360 21 - Dr. Fetus 23 - TheFattestPat 24 - Zanzibar Ham 25 - SSneoman & Blackunknown & Like Clockwork 26 - The Ayshkerbundy 27 - Kilza 28 - Kikas & Xanrib 29 - Leraika & Mraagvpeine 30 - Toyotasomi no Miko 31 - FriskyBoat 32 - Blaze Dragon 33 - BlackPersona 34 - Level Seven & mycelia 35 - Hobgoblin2099 & Jiru 36 - Saladin Rising 37 - Shiny777 38 - Prythian 40 - Aeromancia 41 - Like Clockwork 42 - AweStriker 43 - Odysseus S. Grant 44 - Logicblade 45 - Drufle 48 - Sordas Volantyr & Ibblebibble 50 - hopeandjoy 55 - Nondevor 60 - Funky Valentine 64 - OgretailFood & Carlosologist 65 - Kerning Chameleon 66 - Hunt11 69 - Kemix 70 - SilverFire 92 - Lynneth Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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Part 1: Welcome to the World of the Wanderer![]() ![]() Is it time for another LP already? That's right, it's my LP of Pokemon Shuffle! ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah just kidding it's actually a good game. ![]() We've got a fair few options to cover later on, but for now, let's jump right in and meet the Professor! ![]() ![]() Oh, we're just given our protagonist. This is Wes, but canonical names are boring, so I want you guys to look at him and remember I've called him THOMAS. ![]() Since I've forgoed videos because I'm getting lazier with each LP, you should absolutely watch the opening cutscene. Why? ![]() ![]() It's pretty explosive. ![]() ![]() ![]() Well that's one way to start a Pokemon game, I suppose. Before we check out where we ended up, uh, who are we and why do we have two cats? ![]() ![]() Our starter Pokemon in this game are Espeon and Umbreon, since this game is full to the brim of double battles! You can probably guess which one is gonna be more helpful. ![]() ![]() You can find what I think of all 386 Pokemon throughout my Crystal and Emerald LPs, so while I'll still go over every Pokemon you can find in this game, the amount doesn't even reach 100, so I'll be talking about how useful Pokemon are in how you might use them in game. So, Umbreon, if you compare it to Espeon, it's just not much of a contest is it? Double Battles is a pretty different beast to singles, walls are a lot less effective due to taking two hits per turn and being fast and strong helps immensely so you can get an attack off and prevent one opponent from attacking. So while Umbreon can have his tanking uses, he's probably not a great idea. Getting Bite as a starting move is a mercy, otherwise he would have Pursuit until Faint Attack in the midgame, which wouldn't be great. Breeding and tutor moves aren't in this game, so you have even less options, especially with TMs being pretty limited. You could give him some cool moves, but man you have a fast attacker RIGHT THERE. Get used to seeing this, there are some Pokemon that can't be used in this game and this borders on being one of them. It'll work out fine, but you will feel sad while doing it. Also his other moves kinda blow, though Taunt is useful at the start, but you'd rather just attack. Timid is +Spd -Atk, but Umbreon is a wall, so... ![]() There's like 4 ribbons in this game (I think?), so this page won't be seeing a lot of use. ![]() ![]() Espeon is a much better choice, having a super nice moveset for doubles and just hitting really hard. However, while it is my favourite Pokemon ever and I'm ecstatic to use it, it can be a rough journey, due it not doing a whole lot aside from nuking stuff with Psychic. Like Ranmaru, Espeon will be one note, but what it does is very good. However, don't be surprised if he faints a lot due to this game's harshness and not being able to take many hits. You'll be healing Espeon a lot, since he'll be your main attacker for a good chunk of the game until you can rely on your other mons to pick up the slack. Reflect is pretty useful to make him not fall over immediately, but it might be preferable to just attack and not get hit! The AI in this game is a little interesting as we'll see later. Also, Modest nature, that's +SpAtk -Atk, which makes Return less potent, but who cares about that? Well it's kinda bad, since we didn't get Bite like Umbreon, so Psychic STAB is your only source of special attacks in this game. He'll have a lot of spare moveslots! ![]() ![]() Our P*DA is our Trainer Card, though it'll have other uses later on. You can probably guess what the Snag List is about. ![]() ![]() Our email is a weirdly underutilized feature in this game, but when they eventually start coming in thick and thin, you can choose your alert tone. This is the only choice. ![]() ![]() We even start out with some items! We can't put this sack into our inventory. Yet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ooh, food? I haven't eaten in four LPs! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What kind of dashing rogue would do something so terrible? Oh yeah, since the models for these games haven't been ripped for the most part, sometimes I won't have the right portrait to use, but there's a fair variety to choose from, so it shouldn't be too confusing, especially for important characters. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Might as well hang with the locals, keep up with the tings, or whatever the kids say. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Seems we've done our civic duty for today, guess I should blow up hideouts more often! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Did you know? This region is based on America, specifically Arizona? I'd have never guessed. ![]() ![]() ![]() Woah, 3D environments! 3D Trainers! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3D Pokemon! 3D battles! Only two Pokemon though, triple battles aren't a thing yet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Already we have some tricky business, since text boxes and attack animations are seperate! So I'll probably have to screenshot what attack it is so I remember what the move is when I only put the animation in the update. Should be easy enough. This is what Espeon will be doing for most of the LP: using a Psychic move and probably knocking something out, it's great. ![]() ![]() And this is what Umbreon will be doing: much less damage and not knocking out Pokemon. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This isn't a battle we'll have trouble with, so we'll let Umbreon deal the final blow. Secret Power has the same kind of effects in this game as it did previous, but it has the same Needle Arm animation regardless. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() When you have a badass bike, there's no need for routes, we just got from one location to another. ![]() ![]() ![]() Based on Phoenix, the capital of Arizona, as well as the mineral phenakite. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I love the way they just dump the sack. ![]() ![]() ![]() There we go, that's the battle theme we all know and love. Man fighting trainers is such a treat in this game. ![]() ![]() Again, this is what Espeon will be doing most of the time. ![]() ![]() Hey that's lucky! This is why you choose Bite over Faint Attack if you ever get that far with Umbreon. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We'll finish off the battle with Return, a move you use only use when you don't want to knock a Pokemon out, or to be flashy, and get a level already! Our starters already have a bit of exp and Umbreon is now two levels ahead of Espeon. Just to show how meh Umbreon still is. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hopefully this is a talking Pokemon, those are pretty rare! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Meet Rui, either she's the rival, or we're gonna have a companion. Guess which one it is. I'm also not gonna call her Yuki, we just had one of those. So Anca it is, that's a perfectly normal name. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry, but I'm a lone desert wanderer. I only have room in my heart for my cats. ![]() ![]() You have wholly and utterly convinced me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh okay, the game went there pretty quickly. Great. ![]() ![]() ![]() Let's start exploring the city by going, where else, but the Pokemon Center! ![]() ![]() ![]() I need to go over the PC as well, since this is where you SAVE. If you remember, there wasn't an option in the main menu, so it makes this game a lot trickier, since you have to find a PC in the overworld if you want to take a break. I don't need to worry about that as much since I have savestates, but drat it can get annoying. ![]() ![]() This is where you can trade with the Gen 3 games, but you can't do it until the postgame, otherwise it would make the game a lot easier. ![]() ![]() Now for the Mart. Our item selection is similar to what we'd get after the 2nd badge, so that's nice. ![]() ![]() We'll sell the items we start with that we don't need, ESPECIALLY Awakenings. But I feel like something's missing... ![]() ![]() ![]() Now for the east side of town. ![]() ![]() There's a few standard optional battles around, but there's a lot less than in the main games, especially if you're going for 100%. I'll be showing off every battle in the game at least once, since without wild Pokemon to grind, you can rematch most trainers in the game for infinite exp. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll be trying to show off a bit more of the battling this time around, as I didn't really for most of Emerald, but I obviously won't be showing off every single attack. ![]() ![]() Since these games are basically Double Battles: The Movie, there's a lot more happening every turn and there's some pretty neat stuff the AI will throw at us, so I think it'll be an interesting time. Also what kind of trainer class is Fun Old Man??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We'll go check out the Gym in just a moment. First, there's something behind this house. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Surprisingly, this battle isn't difficult. Umbreon still couldn't knock out the Wurmple in one shot. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Some TMs aren't even in these games, but unfortunately Torment is still here. Sure, it can be useful, but it's just not my style. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Our one and only upgrade for our P*DA is basically a Pokedex, but in alphabetical order. There's no kind of regional Pokedex, so I won't be evolving every Pokemon I see, just catching. ![]() ![]() ![]() It's got your basic info, the cry, height comparison and a model viewer. It's cool, but you can only update it by talking to the teacher, which I'll try to do when we need to come back to Phenac City... if I remember. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We've done plenty of talking this update, so let's battle! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The trainer names in these games are... interesting to say the least. There's some real good ones. ![]() ![]() Oh wow, Espeon didn't OHKO a Pokemon for the first time in the LP. Mental. ![]() ![]() But this game starts off pretty easy. It's never ridiculously hard, but it will get tougher, don't you worry. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh yeah, there's a real mix of Pokemon in Orre, but we'll mostly see Johto and Hoenn Pokemon, making me think this southern region is on the other side of Johto, as Kanto Pokemon are pretty uncommon. ![]() ![]() Boosting with Agility and Defense Curl won't help you much. ![]() ![]() Two trainers already. Are we about to be fired up? ![]() ![]() ![]() Doesn't look like it. ![]() ![]() Wait, Ground types, Dug, I get it! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ahah, an Ice type trainer, I'm getting it now! ![]() ![]() Oh... never mind then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I know what comes next after fighting four trainers in a row. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We'll actually have six Pokemon pretty soon, trust me, but we'll be battling Justy later. He's a little bit strong. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There's nothing down here. Hmm, weren't we supposed to be going somewhere? ![]() Oh yeah poo poo the Mayor's house. I am too easily distracted. Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Yo your New LP thread post doesn't actually have a link to this LP.
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Welcome to the land of double battles and Best Music.
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lol good job me. Here I thought things had gone a bit too smoothly.
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Is nicknaming pokemon a thing in this game?
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Ah the Gamecube games! The entire reason I wanted a Gamecube as a wee lass. ...my brother had a PS2, so I never did. ![]()
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Relatable. I like this guy already. I'm surprised you're going with default names considering your usual naming scheme. I expected LEO and MIREI, the Japanese names, but I guess this is fine too. What isn't fine is that screenshot size, please make them bigger.
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Blaze Dragon posted:What isn't fine is that screenshot size, please make them bigger. Specifically, I'd recommend something like 1.5x the current size; that ought to be fine.
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This game is great, and a lot of people are less familiar with it so I'm looking forward to seeing their reactions. I think you're doing pretty well showing the battles so far; the animations are kind of long so it's probably hard to pick a good place to screenshot (and a lot of them look kind of silly, like Bite with the giant phantom jaws). It may not come across as much in the LP, but battles in this game can take a while even if they're easy just because of the animations (which I seem to remember you can't skip or turn off in any way). It's still fun and the music's great so that never bothers me, but it might some players... When I played this I actually found Umbreon quite useful, honestly. It's not going to do damage, but when you consider the way you have to catch pokemon in this game (I'll be vague since you haven't shown it yet) having a durable staller with Confuse Ray can be pretty helpful. That said, nothing you've said about it is wrong either, it really gets overshadowed by Espeon. (Also worth noting is that both Espeon and Umbreon are locked to male here, so you couldn't breed more eevee on the GBA until FR/LG.)
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Leraika posted:Is nicknaming pokemon a thing in this game? Not for the first few hours. There is a Name Rater and through him is the only way you can nickname the starters. You're also not given the option to nickname Pokemon you catch until roughly the same point.
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Sorry the images are a bit small, but they're half the size I record at and I didn't like the look of the 3/4 size images. Besides, I use a lot of images in my updates, especially in 1-4 image grids, so having them too big would make it look awkward, especially when put onto the Archive, which is where this LP will spend most of its life (hopefully they outlive me).
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I love these games! It's a shame they never made a 3rd game, or even release the existing games in HD.
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I usually read LP updates on mobile, and the pictures are a pretty good size for me. I've never played these games so I'm really looking forward to this!
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I love these games, warts and all and I am eagerly awaiting this LP. Good luck Crosspiece!
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Tons of dirt, no wild Pokemon, yeah sounds like Arizona to me. Umbreon is my favorite Eeveelution, man.
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Oops I can't stop thinking about how anyone in this region even has Pokemon
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"I wish they'd gotten blown up with their hideout." Well, that's kind of dark.
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rannum posted:Oops I can't stop thinking about how anyone in this region even has Pokemon Ground types would love it. There's no shortage of desert-dwelling pokemon even in the few generations I've played - sandshrew, cacnea, trapinch, etc.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:"I wish they'd gotten blown up with their hideout." Yeah, Orre is not a nice place.
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rannum posted:Oops I can't stop thinking about how anyone in this region even has Pokemon They're all imported.
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Everyone in Orre is prickly because they live in a barren wasteland and all have really stupid names.
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Crosspeice posted:Sorry the images are a bit small, but they're half the size I record at and I didn't like the look of the 3/4 size images. Besides, I use a lot of images in my updates, especially in 1-4 image grids, so having them too big would make it look awkward, especially when put onto the Archive, which is where this LP will spend most of its life (hopefully they outlive me). Problem is, half-size is unreadable unless I drop down to a lower resolution or use zoom (which then affects the other LPs where it's not an issue). Native size really isn't an issue.
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Fun Old Man is my trainer class, for future reference.
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![]() I'm playing through Colosseum right now myself, so I'm interested to see how you go through it
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Sweet, my two favorite Pokemon games are getting LP'd, awesome.Funky Valentine posted:Welcome to the land of double battles and Best Music. Mraagvpeine posted:I love these games! It's a shame they never made a 3rd game, or even release the existing games in HD. Second, I love that all the battles are double battles. It completely changes up how you play the game and makes it way more strategic, and it gave me a new appreciation for moves like Helping Hand and Protect.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:
You know you're in for a ride when your game about befriending magic creatures opens with terrorist bombing.
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Crosspeice posted:Sorry the images are a bit small, but they're half the size I record at and I didn't like the look of the 3/4 size images. Besides, I use a lot of images in my updates, especially in 1-4 image grids, so having them too big would make it look awkward, especially when put onto the Archive, which is where this LP will spend most of its life (hopefully they outlive me). They're genuinely hard to see at this size, at least for visually-impaired people like me. Forcing my sight to follow the LP is not exactly the nicest of experiences, and they'll look even more awkward if you archive them in a size that's genuinely far too small for a Gamecube game. You aren't playing a handheld game here, it's meant to be seen on a bigger screen. Aerdan posted:Problem is, half-size is unreadable unless I drop down to a lower resolution or use zoom (which then affects the other LPs where it's not an issue). Native size really isn't an issue. I agree.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:You know you're in for a ride when your game about befriending magic creatures opens with terrorist bombing. I had to double check to make sure I wasn't in the Reborn thread.
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Crosspeice posted:Sorry the images are a bit small, but they're half the size I record at and I didn't like the look of the 3/4 size images. Besides, I use a lot of images in my updates, especially in 1-4 image grids, so having them too big would make it look awkward, especially when put onto the Archive, which is where this LP will spend most of its life (hopefully they outlive me).
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Yeah, now that I'm on desktop, the pictures are way too small. Sorry buddy.
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Yeah, these are way too small considering how much goes on in each screenshot.
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Yay Pokemon Colosseum! I love this game even though it's surprisingly difficult for a 9 year old and I never beat it. And while you're right that Umbreon isn't as good as Espeon, I could never find it in myself to split them up.
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Colosseum is interesting. You can just force your way through like any other Pokemon game, but if you change up your tactics a bit for the double battles you'll do much better. Umbreon is a great example. Normally a tank isn't very practical for a playthrough, but they are invaluable in this game. Umbreon can use taunt, confuse ray and toxic to shut down some of the more annoying bosses in this game. You also have to remember that your heavy hitters like Espeon are going to be taking a lot of damage. Umbreon's stall tactics help soak up a lot of it. He's also very useful for catching. He dishes out small bits of damage and can sit there taking plenty of abuse. The developers were smart giving you Espeon and Umbreon as starters. They really exemplify how important balancing the offense and defense of your team is. It's not as clear during the beginning since most of your opponents are pretty easy, but once you get to the first "dungeon" it becomes more apparent.
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Saladin Rising posted:Second, I love that all the battles are double battles. It completely changes up how you play the game and makes it way more strategic, and it gave me a new appreciation for moves like Helping Hand and Protect. It'd work like 1000% better if they gave you a shitton of moves to use. I suppose part of it is that this is a 3rd generation game. Feint, Trick Room, Lava Plume, Discharge, Tailwind, and U-Turn were in 4th generation and added incredible amounts of depth to team construction. 5th added Wide Guard and Quick Guard which really changed up the game by having moves that protected the user and ally. Also the only thing with Follow Me is kind of trash.
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On the bright side, Surf doesn’t hit your other Pokémon yet so it’s not as risky to use in doubles as it is starting in Gen 4.
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hopeandjoy posted:On the bright side, Surf doesn’t hit your other Pokémon yet so it’s not as risky to use in doubles as it is starting in Gen 4. Yeah, but if we're talking the campaign mode, nothing can learn surf until post-game trade shenanigans.
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Dallbun posted:Yeah, but if we're talking the campaign mode, nothing can learn surf until post-game trade shenanigans. nnno? I'm playing Story Mode right now and pretty much every water type I have knows Surf.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:57 |
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Pyrite Town is a good name for the new Team Snagem hangout.
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