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willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010


Sean McCorkle called me gay looking on Twitter.

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I am Otis
Sep 22, 2003



Calls em like he sees em :p

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Jul 25, 2007
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Grandpa Simpson: Dear Mr. President. There are too many weight classes nowadays. Please eliminate three. I am -not- a crackpot.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again


Josh Barnett is negotiating his UFC release. Sad to see him go but eh itís clearly over. Iím not sure where he would fit in the HW division at this point anyway.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/...-usada-mistrust

Ditch
Jul 29, 2003

Backdrop Hunger

Regarding buyrates, I've become very skeptical that anything other than the top 1-2 fights actually matters, and I think UFC feels the same way. Why put Cerrone in the 3rd or 4th fight of a card if it won't add more than a few thousand buys, when he can be a TV main event that fills an arena and draws a couple million viewers? Why try to load up a card to bolster a weak main event if that only increases the buyrate from 140k to 145k? Etc.

Fans who make the biggest shows blockbusters ignore the small shows entirely, and thus burnout isn't really a factor.

I do think that 8-10 PPVs a year would make a lot more sense, since the company just doesn't have enough people who draw 300k to warrant 12. Fewer PPVs, most with multiple title fights would make the company less vulnerable to having events sunk by single injuries.

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof

Iíve basically stopped watching the full main cards now since I donít recognize the names and thereís too many events

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011


Skip My Posts posted:

I think the top level is better than ever but there’s too many fights probably

I think the skill of the top level of fighters is better than ever but also that the ufc has a hard time compelling good fighters to fight frequently or in compelling matchups.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013

No need to apologise when I am right, like usual.





Feels like Dana letting Conor do whatever set a snowball going that hosed up basically everything.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005


Seems clear now the interim title fights are a tool to control the champs and force them into the matchup the ufc wants

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005


david carmichael posted:

I think the skill of the top level of fighters is better than ever but also that the ufc has a hard time compelling good fighters to fight frequently or in compelling matchups.

I agree and I think thatís a cause of the constant interim poo poo

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Skip My Posts posted:

Seems clear now the interim title fights are a tool to control the champs and force them into the matchup the ufc wants

Even thatís not really working - Conor just kind of comes and goes as he pleases, losing his belts doesnít matter. Or the utter failure of having Khabib/Tony happen. Or GSP stealing Michael Bispingís heat and then running down to 155.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

YOSPOS


Fartbox posted:

I want to love MMA as much as I did a few years ago but I just don't

It feels diluted somehow and I can't get excited about many of the champions anymore

Max is a laser-fisted God of violence. Stipe dresses in hayseed clothes with his belly hanging out, then dominates men who look like they were grown in super-soldier vats. Cormier is the ultimate dad who loves his family and wrestlefucks dudes to death while knockout bombs bounce off his incredible skull. Khabib wrestles bears. I'm not sure what more you need.

Edit: Conor's antics gave us "touch-bus in the parking lot." We're living in the golden age.

Veni Vidi Ameche! fucked around with this message at Jun 21, 2018 around 19:40

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

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david carmichael posted:

I think the skill of the top level of fighters is better than ever but also that the ufc has a hard time compelling good fighters to fight frequently or in compelling matchups.

it used to happen so regularly, someone posted a while back that the new owners don't have the same relationship with the fighters that joe silva and the fertittas did and i think that's true.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

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i started watching mma just before machida fought rashad and they had no problem booking that fight even though machida looked like the best fighter in history when he was on the rise.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011


I think also joe silva was very good at making interesting match ups based on styles, and not being like "stephen thompson knows all the karate kicks. He should main event cards" and so on

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david carmichael posted:

I think also joe silva was very good at making interesting match ups based on styles, and not being like "stephen thompson knows all the karate kicks. He should main event cards" and so on

He was also good at being a petty rear end in a top hat and booking indie darlings to get squashed by a wrestler, like when he booked Antonio McKee to debut against Jacob Volkmann. Joe Silva really loved the sport and the cards always felt more fun when he was around.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011


Another big obstacle to booking fun fights is signing too many bout agreements too far in advance. You create situations where good fighters who want to fight a lot cant get someone +/- 4 spots from them in the rankings, because everyone is booked for fight night: guam 9 months from now

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mewse
May 2, 2006





david carmichael posted:

I think also joe silva was very good at making interesting match ups based on styles, and not being like "stephen thompson knows all the karate kicks. He should main event cards" and so on

They should use the Jon Fitch clause to expire wonderboy's contract

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