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I don't use Google pay and I barely have an idea what it even is. Well whatever. I guess it isn't my problem as long as google won't ban my google account and delete all my gmail, calendar, YouTube and drive data.
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Ihmemies posted:I don't use Google pay and I barely have an idea what it even is. Well whatever. I guess it isn't my problem as long as google won't ban my google account and delete all my gmail, calendar, YouTube and drive data. Its what you have to use for contactless payment in the US because the US won't adopt any credit/debit card tech until it's at least 20 years old.
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Blurb3947 posted:It’s happened to others. Welp, time to cancel the sub then. I Hope I won't get penalized with account deletion after using the free trial for a few hours.. I don't understand how their payment system can be so crap that users can't choose their country when buying either. Ihmemies fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Nov 5, 2022 |
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Seems people try to use a VPN to get cheaper YT Premium by connecting through the far East, so I wouldn't sweat it, unless you are losing out by paying in SEK.
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mkbhd, is totally not reading the room regarding twitter, fuckin lol he's totally "hey elon buddy, never mind those haters, here's a 15 minute video explaining how to monetise the internet" meanwhile, elon is making wank jokes and sending advertisers running and, just, gently caress knows he (mkbhd) loving looooves twitter. much more than elon can't seem to embed for some reason
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Mkbhd is the ultimate rich guy Stan. There is no way he goes against anyone worth more than 7 figures
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You guys missed the subtext of that video. He obviously thought Elon was making a huge mistake.
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I'm not watching the video but is he doing that dumb fingers on chin pose he does in thumbnails all the time to look like he's above clickbait thumbnails?
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I got that, I mean gently caress, who doesn't think that. (elon, his mum, erm...)
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Adolf Glitter posted:mkbhd, is totally not reading the room regarding twitter, fuckin lol I think the top comment on his video sums it up perfectly - "Tech influencers like Twitter WAY more than regular people."
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LTT did a video about using a regular-rear end x86 desktop to act as a DIY router - it never occurred to me that the computing involved in acting as a router could be done by a consumer CPU, but it makes a ton of sense now that I've seen it in action and it tickles the brain because I already have a dedicated router all of my own, and trying to do it their way would almost certainly take up more space and more power, and I live in such a small home that I'd never actually need that kind of firepower, but I'm already day-dreaming about repurposing some of my old parts in storage and doing it myself, you know?
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I've succumbed to the urge to roll my own infrastructure a couple times so my only advice would be to consider how annoying keeping up with the maintenance and configuration can be once you're past the phase of extreme self-satisfaction.
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gradenko_2000 posted:LTT did a video about using a regular-rear end x86 desktop to act as a DIY router - it never occurred to me that the computing involved in acting as a router could be done by a consumer CPU, but it makes a ton of sense now that I've seen it in action Check out the L1T "forbidden router" series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL10NWKboioZRzCsTw9WedxId9sa0GC7nx They go one further by making a multi-purpose server + router combo using VMs. If you're gonna go to the trouble of making a DIY router, might as well use the power of a full PC to do more interesting thing than a generic router. But as Tiny Timbs says, you also then have to maintain it. A home router is also your first level of internet security, so that's not something you want to just ignore forever.
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gradenko_2000 posted:LTT did a video about using a regular-rear end x86 desktop to act as a DIY router - it never occurred to me that the computing involved in acting as a router could be done by a consumer CPU, but it makes a ton of sense now that I've seen it in action Actually this has been a thing for a while. There are several open-source projects specifically for it. And it actually takes quite little power. There are even purpose made computers for it, like this for example: https://www.amazon.com/Fanless-Gigabit-Firewall-Appliance-Computer/dp/B09J4H9ZXY/ Basically any x86 machine with 2 or more NICs can be a router. Some of the major projects for this are pfSense, and OPNSense. (both based on FreeBSD) Personally I have used pfSense for several years. It is considerably more stable than any consumer router I have ever used. I run mine on a tiny industrial PC with a Intel i3-4xxx series laptop CPU. That much power is complete overkill for the purpose. I can saturate my 1Gb/1Gb fiber connection and CPU usage barely breaks 9% in pfSense. Initial configuration is a bit more than a consumer level device, but there is no ongoing maintenance, other than updates. pfSense can also do wifi with a compatible wifi adapter. But many end up using a separate AP for that. (I use UniFi)
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gradenko_2000 posted:LTT did a video about using a regular-rear end x86 desktop to act as a DIY router - it never occurred to me that the computing involved in acting as a router could be done by a consumer CPU, but it makes a ton of sense now that I've seen it in action Fun fact, a lot of the early DSL/DOCSIS CPE worked in software too, it wasn't until internet speeds started getting quick enough that the small 400-600MHz MIPS64 chips couldn't keep up that they started including ASICs to do routing and firewalling. In terms of setting up a soft router nowadays, I'd probably go with something ARM based nowadays - so long as it can boost up to around 2GHz and has four or more cores (not threads, but more on that later), it's possible to do up to 1/1Gbps of IMIX distribution at least using FreeBSD. Done that way, as long as you aren't utilizing a core 100%, you're still getting the excellent low-power properties of an ARM chip, and you've still got enough cores to do bidirectional linerate for a couple of network connections. The biggest issue you'll probably run into is that statefully firewalling things is something that really doesn't combine well with cache incoherent CPUs, so avoid SMT at all costs. If you've got way too much money and you're using FreeBSD, you can even buy two boxes and use CARP to set up a failover with your public IP on the shared CARP interface, so that if one box falls over, the other one can pick up the work - and if you've got pfsync, you can even keep state tables so that no connections are dropped. EDIT: Welp, turns out I had the tab open for too long and stevewm beat me to it However, since I think my reply adds some context, I'll let it stand as-is. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 9, 2022 |
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EngineerJoe posted:You guys missed the subtext of that video. He obviously thought Elon was making a huge mistake. Speaking of huge mistakes DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1590383366213611522
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njsykora posted:This keeps getting funnier. Elon Musk's greatest gift to humanity will not be colonising Mars, but causing Twitter to go the way of Lehmann Brothers. Equally hilarious is that SEC filings show he is dumping billions in Tesla stock in an attempt to douse this absolute tyre fire.
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Elon dumping Tesla stock after it had dropped to its lowest value in a very long time is really quite funny. It certainly implies a strong element of panic.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Done that way, as long as you aren't utilizing a core 100%, you're still getting the excellent low-power properties of an ARM chip,... I was quite surprised at how little power my i3 system uses. It only clocks in at 9-13 watts. That is ~$11 per year at my average electric rates of 12 cents/kWh.
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stevewm posted:I was quite surprised at how little power my i3 system uses. It only clocks in at 9-13 watts.
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stevewm posted:I was quite surprised at how little power my i3 system uses. It only clocks in at 9-13 watts. If you gotta have a soft router, something based on a SoC chip is better. If it's gotta be x86, I'd argue Xeon D-(1|2)700 is interesting - this would be perfect, if it wasn't so loving expensive. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Nov 9, 2022 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:If it's mostly idle, the PCH probably accounts for 5 of those 9-13W. Seems a bit overkill for home use. For typical home use, even at 1Gbit, even a lowly Celeron j1900 is more than enough; that used to be the go to CPU for miniPCs built for router use. It kind of fell out of favor when the pfSense project announced a CPU with AES-NI extensions was going to be a requirement in a future release. A requirement they have since backed off on.
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I like the look of those fanless industrial sff things that Ali express (among others) sell You can get them with 4x2.5gbe for a reasonable price now. I've a couple of 2.5gbe devices so it'd be good to get the performance out of them Think that I might work out how long the savings will take to justify the price
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stevewm posted:Seems a bit overkill for home use. For typical home use, even at 1Gbit, even a lowly Celeron j1900 is more than enough; that used to be the go to CPU for miniPCs built for router use. It kind of fell out of favor when the pfSense project announced a CPU with AES-NI extensions was going to be a requirement in a future release. A requirement they have since backed off on. That way, I can leave the rest of my homelab powered off, unless I need it.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:If you're only doing soft router, sure Xeon D-1700 is overkill - but if I go that route again, I'll want to consolidate my existing homeserver setup into one machine. Ah, yes.. that would make sense in that case.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Mkbhd is the ultimate rich guy Stan. There is no way he goes against anyone worth more than 7 figures Mkbhd has made a wonderful career out of being an enormous tool for huge companies and rich people.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:made a wonderful career out of being an enormous tool This is most tech youtubers (and all apple youtubers) to be honest.
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the GN video of a teardown of an AMD compute card got me thinking: it's been mentioned a couple of times that AMD cards are actually kinda bad for compute, because they lack full/proper support for the CUDA standard (or at least, that's how I understand it, I could be misreading this entirely) but if that were the case, what is being used, or how are these cards being used, at an enterprise level such that these AMD compute cards are useful, when maybe they're not as useful at the consumer level?
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gradenko_2000 posted:the GN video of a teardown of an AMD compute card got me thinking: it's been mentioned a couple of times that AMD cards are actually kinda bad for compute, because they lack full/proper support for the CUDA standard (or at least, that's how I understand it, I could be misreading this entirely) AMD has ROCm which has a lot of similar capabilities to CUDA, but I think CUDA just has more of a head start on market penetration. I think ROCm doesn't have windows support and is more limited in the actual hardware interface to the GPU components. But it's not as mature I think.
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gradenko_2000 posted:the GN video of a teardown of an AMD compute card got me thinking: it's been mentioned a couple of times that AMD cards are actually kinda bad for compute, because they lack full/proper support for the CUDA standard (or at least, that's how I understand it, I could be misreading this entirely) CUDA is proprietary to nvidia. But it's very well supported, nvidia had a huge first-mover advantage, and it's got great accessibility through python and other tinker-friendly poo poo. If the thing you know is CUDA then you're stuck with nvidia or using translation layers. If you don't actually know anything and just want to run stable diffusion or whatever GPU compute apps other people have made using CUDA, you're very stuck with nvidia. If you can program GPUs in OpenCL or other non-CUDA APIs -- which people at the scientific & enterprise level can, but everyone else is like hell no -- then they work fine.
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njsykora posted:This is most tech youtubers (and all apple youtubers) to be honest. This if fair -- you aren't wrong here.
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Rtings is better than 99% of them just by showing all the technical info on a static webpage
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A Corsi Cube made out of PC case fans https://twitter.com/robwiss/status/...ingawful.com%2F
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gradenko_2000 posted:A Corsi Cube made out of PC case fans you're gonna have to explain to the gray forum what a corsi cube is
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A Corsi Cube is when you take four HEPA filters and a box fan to form a DIY air-filtration unit. It's a "cube" because the size and form-factor of square HEPA filters will act as the sides of the cube, and the box fan (pointing upwards) will form the top of a cube, plus a cardboard panel to act as the base, and there's no significant modification needed besides duct-taping them all together. The purpose of such a device is to, of course, filter the air - specifically of COVID when it was first devised, but also of allergens and other pathogens that also might not want to breathe in. The idea is that this is cheaper than a dedicated, bespoke commercial air filtration unit (something like this) and can also be quickly assembled en masse and at-scale, like if one were deploying a lot of them to put in every classroom of a school. anyway, someone making a Corsi Cube out of case fans is a little crossover that I wanted to share with the group
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gradenko_2000 posted:LTT did a video about using a regular-rear end x86 desktop to act as a DIY router - it never occurred to me that the computing involved in acting as a router could be done by a consumer CPU, but it makes a ton of sense now that I've seen it in action You made me go "Well my old pc router boxes might have a few years but it couldn't be that old after all....", the last one i set up using IPCop was in 2006 while the first one was in 2004. Thanks for making me feel like a fossil.
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