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Arivia posted:the backpack is $250 USD, right? Sometimes I watch/listen to their podcast when I work out and some people pay like a hundred bucks for YouTube superchats that literally haven't done anything for almost a year now. At first I thought it was hosed up to "force" people to buy merch to have their question read on the show, but obviously people are going to throw money at the guy, so at least that ensures that they get a water bottle or desk mat in return.
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Yeah I was curious about the warranty comment above and it turns out the LTT subreddit is in full meltdown - sounds like he said in his podcast that he essentially doesn't want to provide a warranty that's too hefty because he doesn't want to be legally bound to it, or to have to force his kids or family to run the company in the future (which also implies he doesn't trust anyone else to run his company lol). As you can imagine, when you have an entire fanbase built on the precept of consumers (and their rights) as a passionate demographic, it doesn't go down well when you do the kind of thing your whole reputation is based on calling out other companies for. Does that subreddit usually go into complete freakout mode or is this a particularly bad one? Edit: I just listened to the WAN show clip and it's kind of a wild take. His argument for not providing a warranty is that if he died tomorrow he wouldn't want his wife to feel obliged to run the company, thus going through the trauma of seeing her dead husband's face over all the branding (he actually said this), which is the situation he'd be creating by providing a legally binding obligation to repair his expensive backpack over the next 10 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjWRvzL-o0&t=4240s The Grumbles fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Aug 8, 2022 |
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Aug 8, 2022 19:27
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Yeah lol, this is some severe hypocrite poo poo that really doesn't lend any credence to his labs project where they will absolutely poo poo on any manufacturer found to be not honouring their warranties.
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The Grumbles posted:Edit: I just listened to the WAN show clip and it's kind of a wild take. His argument for not providing a warranty is that if he died tomorrow he wouldn't want his wife to feel obliged to run the company, thus going through the trauma of seeing her dead husband's face over all the branding (he actually said this), which is the situation he'd be creating by providing a legally binding obligation to repair his expensive backpack over the next 10 years. What the heck
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How many products that this guy covers don’t have a warranty and how would he treat one that didn’t
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Aug 8, 2022 20:50
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The $50 GN toolkit has a 7 year warranty.
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Aug 8, 2022 20:55
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literally the union situation all over again: they don't want to formally establish something; if something bad happens, they'll handle it ad hoc; something something my wife and i
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kliras posted:literally the union situation all over again: they don't want to formally establish something; if something bad happens, they'll handle it ad hoc; something something my wife and i Everyone who does this is bad! Except lil ol me. Teehee
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Aug 8, 2022 21:11
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The Grumbles posted:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my loving god LMAO
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 Just loving lmao e. with the loving pirate avatar as well i can't
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Aug 8, 2022 21:17
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The LTT bagholders
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Jeff Fatwood posted:
That is true of literally any company lmao. C'mon man. If you can't provide the support, then don't sell the product. You can't get into a business where warranties are expected and then give such dubious excuses to not provide them.
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Aug 8, 2022 21:28
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This is the first time I've seen Linus be so obviously stupid. When your whole gimmick is "haha me do stupid poopyhead things with technology", you can't be shocked that people want a formal written warranty. For example, are they keeping stock in reserve? How much? Because they aren't going to just go get more of something made 2 years from now. So are they doing a cash refund? etc.
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Aug 8, 2022 21:38
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https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1556723484125847552?t=NoxqZo0nSmaXnCA94viYeg&s=19 what's a real warranty? 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:That is true of literally any company lmao. C'mon man. If you can't provide the support, then don't sell the product. You can't get into a business where warranties are expected and then give such dubious excuses to not provide them. The sheer amount of people going "just trust him bro" is astonishing. Pinkie promise is just as good as a binding contract don'tcha know? I'm at a loss for words at how mind numbingly dumb he is e. why the gently caress does he keep talking about a lifetime warranty??? Just give a year or something, who gives a gently caress!
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Is there not even a 1 year warranty on that thing? That's actually horrendous. I would understand not having a 3-10 year warranty because this is his first time producing a backpack. It's hard to predict how things will fail even if you try to produce a quality product, but not even willing to stand behind it for 1 year at that price point is terrible.
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as someone who was at least a little interested in the ltt screwdriver with all the extra ratcheting action and poo poo, guess i'm buying a set from gn the next time i have cash. because wow steve is definitely not this much of an idiot about actual important tools.
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Jeff Fatwood posted:
Lmao. I guess he’s only selling this in the US, where consumer laws don’t exist? This is incredible. Someone has to find a quote somewhere where Linus bashed a company for “promising to do the right thing” and very obviously failing. My guess is the NZXT riser card fiasco. Arivia posted:as someone who was at least a little interested in the ltt screwdriver with all the extra ratcheting action and poo poo, guess i'm buying a set from gn the next time i have cash. because wow steve is definitely not this much of an idiot about actual important tools. Steve is absolutely gonna poo poo on Linus for this at some point, even if it’s a throwaway.
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Jeff Fatwood posted:The sheer amount of people going "just trust him bro" is astonishing. Pinkie promise is just as good as a binding contract don'tcha know? the point is that actual backpack companies selling their own backpacks that are built for utility, not fashion at the same price point offer lifetime warranties, so why isn't linus on a 250 USD bag like i mentioned the osprey guarantee before: https://www.osprey.com/us/en/customer-support/return-authorization this is the standard for these kinds of products at that price.
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https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1556727116254699520 Definitely not mad 😂
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forest spirit posted:https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1556723484125847552?t=NoxqZo0nSmaXnCA94viYeg&s=19 a miserable pile of false promises
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It looks like he's going to offer a warranty of some sorts, but not really? loving hell is he being a whiny little bitch about it. This is from further down in the exchange between him and Thomas: https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1556726058346418176
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Jesus dude, if you're really "working on something" take the L, admit you were wrong and shut the gently caress up.
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Take the L geez Edit: too slow 
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CoolCab posted:i am very critical of linus tech tips ability to command the same premium pricing as your market dominant Calvin Klein high end designer of the backpack market (whoever that is). lol, that was quick. i assumed it would be price directly rather than price proxied by a feature/general distrust of the brand
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K8.0 posted:This is the first time I've seen Linus be so obviously stupid. So you haven't watched his channel I take it? (Though I'm kinda with you: this is the first time I've seen him be so obviously stupid and it is definitely positively 100% not a bit.)
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he's playing this off like it's blindsiding him but if it is his team are completely incompetent, it's a feature people shop for of course it will come up in comparisons. it is not credible to think no one would have brought it up. given the pricing is already bonkers due to cost it has to be cost.
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I mean his opinion on both this and his employees is a pretty classic scummy small business stance, but one might gently caress over you, the viewer.
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Let's be fair - Linus has never grown past the level of owning a small computer repair shop as far as technical and business skills go. I don't begrudge him his YouTube success but in this context his attitude fits completely.
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Aware posted:Let's be fair - Linus has never grown past the level of owning a small computer repair shop as far as technical and business skills go. I don't begrudge him his YouTube success but in this context his attitude fits completely. Both agree and disagree. He is decently skilled but is hanging on to some stupid ideas for sure. But I haven't run a business his size so not like I can claim to be better. I wouldn't go with whatever his messaging on his products is trying to be here though!
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Skilled at what exactly? Enthusiast grade tinkering? Prosumer grade networking? It suits his tech enthusiast audience but it's very far from teaching you anything useful/enterprise+ computing.
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Creating a content creating machine that employs like 100 people. Doesn't matter what you think of the content, that is the truth
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njsykora posted:The $50 GN toolkit has a 7 year warranty. it used to be lower but warranty rates were low enough in practice they felt they could increase it retroactively with no financial downside basic business. can't wait to hear the shitshow of ltt trying to pay their way into having the gear and expertise and trust gn have spent years earning. gn announcing the fan tester and new lab broke ltt's mind
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The inbound economic apocalypse is the first one to happen in the age of Patreon, YouTube memberships etc. so I would think it's going to get quite rough for a lot of channels.
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gradenko_2000 posted:you get to support the channel and you don't attract any unwanted attention from someone seeing the brand! Yeah an ltt fan is for sure not gonna have anyone looking at them in their underwear
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Jeff Fatwood posted:https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1556727116254699520 Look, you either trust me, the small business tyrant who constantly drops everything, or you don’t. Bro
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Never thought I’d see a real world “Tommy Boy”: The guarantee is meaningless pitch but here we are
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perfect timing: https://twitter.com/OTKnetwork/status/1556739967115739141 moist is known from youtube, and otk is a bunch of twitch folks - and asmongold who's that nerd who's always throwing an alt-right tantrum tantrum in that recommended youtube video you can't get rid of to make mattersr more fun, otk was recently sponsored by ... artesian builds it's gonna be interesting if or when tech youtubers decide to review it; these are not people who are generally great at handling criticism
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ooooh, here's a theory: that uh, i'm again not picking on anyone who bought it this is entirely my subjective opinion: maybe the obnoxiously overengineered backpack components are failing at a rate way higher than they expected, given there are routinely like multiple mechanical zippers or clasps or whatever all the gently caress over the product. the kingdom hearts pants design school. maybe their failure or endurance rates on their overall product were worse than they expected because one of the finicky and non-essential bits keeps consistently breaking off or something.
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