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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Arivia posted:

It probably isn’t but that really does look like someone just slapped a Noctua CPU cooler on the side and called it good.

That's a peltier under the noctua to cool the camera guts below ambient.

Cooling the sensor is good to reduce noise which is important for long exposures. Alternately it could be for IR photography -- IIRC you want the whole inside of the camera to be cool for that.

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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Combat Pretzel posted:

--edit:
Actually, there's people on the Ars forum complaining that it's a stupid nickname, dated around September 2000, so eh.

Hang on, lemme dig up my regdate 2000 ars technica forum account so I can necro it with "MODS KNEW"

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Wirth1000 posted:

Like the whole "Hey, Apple offers 5 years of support for their devices but oh wait it's actually only 5 years from the launch of the phone so it's actually some sort of cloak'n'dagger bullshit!!" point was just insane.

Apple support is some bullshit that tells you they are the best over and over until you believe it.

I have an aunt who was having disabling medical issues from the spring through about a month ago. While this was going on she got an email from apple that her macbook was on the list for a battery recall. Since I was visiting her I made a 1 hour trip up to syracuse to the nearest apple store to get it replaced, because she was spending 90% of her day lying down with the laptop in bed. Made the advance appointment through apple's service app, was thinking "wow I guess this is what you pay for".


I was extremely disappointed by apple's legendary service. When I got there they told me that they'd be boxing it up and shipping it to a service center, 2-3 weeks turnaround time. I was like "what the gently caress did I come all the way here for then?" -- apple's messages on the subject implied that you could ship it to them or have it fixed at an apple store. No mention that the 'genius bar' was just a more involved method of shipping it.

And when I was unhappy and asking if there was any other way to do this, the guy said they could do a battery replacement on site right then -- if I paid like $200 for a new battery rather than doing the recall replacement.


tl;dr gently caress apple and their fake-rear end luxury brand image

Klyith
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stevewm posted:

If you want to get really mad... Watch some select videos by Louis Rossman or iPadRehab on Youtube.

They are 3rd party repair places that champion right to repair and also specifically do repair on Apple products. They definitely have nothing nice to say about Apple and their repair policies.

Their hostility to user repairing is annoying, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to anyone outside the techie crowd. Like, I'd love it if electronics repair was more of an option across all devices, but I'd be pessimistic about how much repairing would actually get done by society as a whole. Electronics & appliance repair was a dying profession even before everyone had glued-together cellphones and laptops that disassemble like a puzzle box. The problem is that a lot of things cost less to buy a new one than to repair, because the assembly is paid in china wages but the repair would be in US wages.

I guess Apple is one of the few companies making stuff that would be cost-effective to repair, and that's why they're so hostile to anyone being able to replace a cracked screen for less than $300.


But Apple hitting a trifecta of expensive, unserviceable, and a lovely time-wasting experience is what makes me lose my mind.

Klyith
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EpicCodeMonkey posted:

Is there a LTT "tech clown" replacement that doesn't have two baked in sponsor slots, a merchandise plug and a subscription request in every video? I already watch Gamers Nexus for the real info, but need someone to fill my "drops expensive things and sets up a RAID system poorly" desires.

If you think about it, there's probably a direct connection between the rampant commercialism and being able to casually destroy thousands of dollars of stuff every week.


OTOH I've been watching Jayztwocents lately who fits the niche of showing his own fuckups in a humorous way while also not being idiotically clownshoes LTT. He's not my idea of a tech authority, mostly he just bends pipe real good and knows about paint. But he's entertaining enough that I don't fall asleep watching (sometimes a problem with GN).


Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Doesn't Gamers Nexus have all that too? Granted his sponsor spots are better (EVGA CLC hair cooling and cat website still make me smile) but he also does merch plugs if he uses the modmat or tool set

GN does one sponsor slot, sometimes a post-reel spot for his store, and occasionally plugs the modmats or screwdriver kits whether his or ifixit. The first two are easy to ignore / skip past, and the plugs for tools are usually just filling airtime while he's taking something apart. Which is fine because showing the process is good but he doesn't have anything else to say.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Theophany posted:

This is therapeutic as hell, it's like the anti-Linus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtIO_Q8mk_o

distro plate bullshit is the apex of "look at all the money I spent" form over function. it is frivolous haute couture for nerds who probably sneer at someone with a louis vuitton or gucci handbag.


like, LTT spending a bunch of money on a machining shop to watercool a red camera is dumb as hell, but at least it's a challenge. the guy with the ridiculous handlebar mustache bought a CNC mill to make a needlessly complicated and expensive water bottle.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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huh. The way the FBI announced that they had evidence from seizing his computers they made it sound like he had CP and the whole 9 yards.

His kinks are creepy and weird, but that seems like a heck of an overreach. FBI entrapment schemes are seriously hosed up, some of the terrorism and drug stuff they do is some real precog poo poo where the moment of arrest is well before the potential crime.

Klyith
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further linked from that:

quote:

Assistant US Attorney Alexander Li in his closing statement emphasized to the jury the Peter Bright went to Duane Park with condoms to meet what he thought would be children.

also, from what legal docs are free instead of having to buy on pacer:

quote:

SA SPIVACK: Okay. You never attempted to have sex- to meet up with either this 14 or 17 year old?
PETER BRIGHT: I have texts to the 17 year old that I would be happy to meet up to help her with her [INDISCERNIBLE].

ok that ny mag article is just poo poo and there's way better evidence than just chatlogs. No clue what evidence was presented on his side, so I don't know if the hung jury means there's contrary info or if it was just a creep on the jury that thought sexting a 17yo was fine. But the ny mag article is poo poo, that's the main point.

Klyith
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Xerophyte posted:

Someone finally found the solution to the unfortunate loudness of pc fans: using watercooling equipment and neodymium magnets to create a giant, silent bellows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Y7DHfoFOk

Sure, it'll double the size of your fulltower but in for a penny, in for a pound.

(DIY Perks also does goddamn fantastic PC builds, to the point where he gets a pass for being an audiot)

Huh, that's really interesting and different, since watching that video this morning I keep thinking about it. The thing I'd immediately point out is that a fan with equal volume, not just the same frontage area like his 4 noctua fans, would be a bigass box fan. A box fan would do his silly bag inflation test so fast it would make the bellows look stupid.

On the plus side, the static pressure rating of bellows is yes. And the bellows box will have fairly linear performance across any speed range, down to as slow a speed as you want to move the plate. A standard fan has minimum RPM ratings, both from the motor and because fan blades become inefficient if their airfoil is moving too slow.

Last thing is that if you made a PC based on that concept it would need a ton of free air space around it. Normal fans in boxes tend to take fresh air in on one side, and exhaust hot air to a different direction. If you build a PC box on one side of the bellows box, as soon as the plate reverses direction it just pulls the same air it exhausted back in. All your cooling is about the air mixing outside the case before being drawn back in. If you have it under a desk or something it would have really bad performance.


Cool channel though, the broken laptop to HTPC conversion was pretty cool.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Frank Dillinger posted:

Nah, you can sort out airflow direction with some reed valves, like an air compressor or small gas engine design.

That's what he had on the first iteration and they made noise. Reed valves aren't silent (thus the category of musical instruments).


~Coxy posted:

This has probably already been done to death (I don't really follow GN much) but I wish he would get an autocue.

No autocue can keep up with tech jesus once he gets going on a high-speed rant!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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TheFluff posted:

what if you ground the heatsink and the IHS so flat that you could wring them together like gauge blocks

sure the manufacturing tolerances required would make both parts stupid expensive but that sick thermal efficiency tho

I predict that it wouldn't work because the IHS probably has some non-uniform thermal expansion in operation.


mobby_6kl posted:

as well as the indium sheet

The company he talked about that makes the perforated indium sheets that would do the plastic flow in a CPU sells them online. Just $300 for 20 cpu-size squares!

Arctic Silver, eat your heart out!

Klyith
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mobby_6kl posted:

The larger solid sheets are indeed like on ebay though. New business idea: poke holes in these sheets yourself and resell the results to Linus.

Hmmm, indium melts at just 156C / 313F, which is too hot for a the CPU to melt by itself. But instead of getting the expensive perforated sheets, you could do the cheap sheets (0.1mm though, your ebay link is 0.2mm) and use a normal oven to assist. Put the heatsink on the CPU with the foil, put it in the oven at 150/300, and now you have the pressure and temperature to make it plastic.

Are mobo components ok at 150C?


I also think the indium sheet might stick the CPU and heatsink together real good, like getting the heatsink off without ripping the CPU out of the socket could be a problem. So while unlike thermal paste it's good forever, it's also only a good idea if you never want to take it off.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Artistic depiction of the latest GN video:



Tech Jesus Driving the Zalmans from the Temple, El Greco, 1568



(Dude really hates Zalman.)

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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So I don't watch Linus usually, and particularly not when he's doing his Jackass Of Tech style videos.

But where does that server closet full of ridiculous badly-designed over-expensive equipment exhaust to? Or is it just 125 degrees in there with the door shut and hatches closed? That's a set of stairs behind those hatches where he had the sound foam, it looks like it was designed as a storage closet on the building plan. Not the type of space normally known for ventilation.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Mr.Radar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0whCHfejM18

Linus was right??? From late February:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPoPwrQwm_g

At the time that video came out I remember people (including other techtubers) saying it wouldn't be a big deal, to how that turned out.

They didn't say it wouldn't be a big deal, they said "buy a computer NOW" was a stupid sentiment, and that if you had an adequate PC running out to panic buy new poo poo was stupid.

Here's what 99% of people in the PC build thread buy a new, more powerful computer for: video games. It's cool, I like games too, but if you can't play a video game it's not a big deal. (Plus anyone who owns a PC and plays games probably has at least 50 unplayed games they picked up on steam sales etc that work just fine on their old PC.)

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Welp now I need to find a different source of simple instructional videos for the pc build thread. I liked jay's vids for that because he's not a complete snooze and the camera work is really good. Lot of other operations are just static shots and closeups that may or may not have a good angle, phil does a really good job with the handheld. Oh well, not gonna link jays vids.


It's a mass demonstration about black people getting shot / killed and the first thing you think about is "I'm gonna shoot first", gently caress you.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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lol I first saw MKB posted as a good tech youtuber in this thread less than a year ago. that's a new speed record from good channel to garbage shill.

Funny, when I looked at his stuff at the time I was thinking "I wish this guy covered stuff other than phones, 'cause I don't care about phones."

I gotta stop carrying this monkey's paw around all the time.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Wirth1000 posted:

lttstore.com

can I get underoos with a printed picture of a 3090FE on the front? I think it would help make me more confident.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Warmachine posted:

I could have been in bed 15 minutes ago, and woken up rested for work tomorrow.

Instead I'm going to be up all night thinking about putting vegemite on a heat spreader.

Oldschool classic PC guy Dan's Data did exactly this in 2002.

Vegemite is an excellent thermal compound, but came 2nd place to toothpaste. And the toothpaste makes your PC smell minty fresh!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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re: Ifixit kits, the quality is better than hardware store cheapo 100 in 1 sets, but nothing special beyond that. The driver is all metal and solid, but small, and the bits are good. But they're very much made for small electronics repair, not general purpose work. If you're looking for a scewdriver for both fixing your PC and your kitchen cabinets, look elsewhere.

The reasons to get one:
- nice case & bit index
- every goddamn weird bit for "security" screws
- supports the ifixit people who are doing good things

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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I just cannot bring myself to care a single iota about GPUs being resold, scapled, price hiked, secretly ebayed by OEMs, or anything else. We're not talking lifesaving drugs here. They're unnecessary products for a nerd hobby. If nvidia couldn't produce enough of them to satisfy demand then the pricetag is naturally going to trend up to whatever the biggest richest idiots are willing to pay. The best solution is to not be a big idiot and just wait.


(I will also note that we're now 2/2 for hosed up hardware at launch from nvidia cards -- the 2000 space invaders corruption, and the 3000 bad capacitors. So lol at all the people who bought 3080s before even knowing what the potential competition was, with a decent segment of them not even caring what Big Navi might be because "AMD drivers bad".)

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spunkshui posted:

1. Gpus are used for more then games.
2. If MSI is funneling cards like this they are breaking Nvidia rules. The reason we dont have any cards for $3000 at bestbuy is nvidia control.
3. The caps are not bad.

1. I'm fairly confident the availability of professional products for professional purposes has been good this whole time
2. Probably, that's between MSI and nvidia. But make no mistake, Nnidia does not care that GPUs are ending up on ebay in general. The restricted supply launch driving FOMO is an actual tactic in sales now.
3. the caps are underspecced / a bad design choice / a gently caress Up


spunkshui posted:

The reason we have a good price at all is because of Nvidia doing this poo poo.

The reason you have crazy out-of-whack demand is Nvidia taking enormous profit by ramping up prices for previous gen when they had weak competition, and previously soaking buttminers for everything they could get. They are lowering prices now because they see potential competition in play.

I don't think nvidia is bad for doing that, mind you. Capitalists gonna capitalize. But they bought ARM for 40 billion dollars, and they didn't get that money by giving away GPUs. They got $40 billion from our collective wallets, and the people with the least patience and cost/benefit neutrality contributed the most money.

Klyith
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spunkshui posted:

Did I miss something in this?

The caps work fine. The TUF card had the same crash and it had all the "better caps."

https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1309659834468298753?s=20

Beats me, I'm not constantly on hardware twitter. Are we at least sure that there's a major difference between the founder's cards and the partners? Because that would be even more Not Nice, probably it would indicate that the 3080's stock spec is a bit too ambitiously set and that only the founder's, which are reportedly cherry-picked by nvidia at the fab, are truly stable at the 'stock' speed.


Subjunctive posted:

Really? I though the majority of that deal was stock, and that they “only” had 10-15B in cash.

Their stock is pretty correlated to how many video cards they sell.

Plus the whole AI / ML thing. I suppose a computer program that plays go really well probably contributed about $10 billion out of that 40, which is pretty funny when you think about it.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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spunkshui posted:

No.

This thing you keep saying is happening is not happening.

edit: unless i'm really really wrong, I would love for you to give info where you got this

What part is not happening, the crash to desktop in games? It was definitively happening and multiple reports said that capacitor choices were at least part of the issue. If capacitors were only part of the issue then that's fine. But still it is a thing that happened. Games were crashing, the launch has had issues beyond supply.

The chips being binned? Only repeating what others have said, but it was something they absolutely did for the 2000 launch. "A" chips with better performance were sold for more and reserved for factory-OCed and the founders cards.

Klyith
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When EVGA went and gave statements saying that capacitors were a problem, it's much more than speculation by randos. Like, good that it turned out not to be the case, and I apologize for repeating it when I'd been out of the loop on the issue.

Anyways, launch 3080s have CTDs for mystery reasons, so I'll go back to the original point that getting FOMO about day 1 launch hardware is maybe a bad choice.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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To be fair to the tech deals guy, some of the original micro-stutter research by the TR and PCPer guys (they quit their sites) was very difficult to do with standard frame logging. There was that special equipment nvidia developed to see it that involved capturing high-speed video and analyzing each frame to see what was actually happening on the display, because fraps or even internal game logging wasn't accurate to that level.

But OTOH I dunno if the techdeals guy is testing poo poo with any extra-special methods himself. If what he's calling "micro-stutter" is what everyone else calls "1% lows" then he's wildly off base.


And on the third hand IMO micro-stutter -- the real micro-stutter not 1% low frames -- is the biggest loving boogieman. Even back 5-10 years ago, when it was much worse and a thing you could point out in the data, it was like whoooooooo gives a poo poo. Micro-stutter only shows up when your framerate is significantly higher than your screen refresh rate. Turn on vsync and poof it's gone. The research into how you detect stuff like that was really neat, but the results only matter to people who care more about jerking it to benchmarks than playing games.

Klyith
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mewse posted:

I feel like Steve Burke has single-handedly pushed the industry towards full mesh front panels

Pretty much. My feeling is that if the industry hadn't become so glass-obsessed that they made cases with all glass and no ventilation, which ended up far worse than even oldschool closed cases, he wouldn't have been driven to make a test suite that extensively documents the benefit of high airflow (mesh).

Between mesh cases and the junk that's built primarily as displays for LED geegaws, I'm on Steve's side. But reluctantly, because I still think there's a reason for a (well-engineered, functional) closed-front case.


edit: just to be clear I'm not against mesh-fronts at all, they're great and superior at what they do well. But if I was buying a new case for myself, I'd get a Define 7 -- the modern incarnation of my trusty P182.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 13, 2020

Klyith
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spunkshui posted:

I rock a corsair 500D thats fully closed in the front and its got tons of airflow. Cooling is one of my main focuses and I found people on youtube with fully built systems saying the temps surprised them before I got it.

Steve was also the one who said an inch on each side on the front is fine after all.

You need 1 inch of clearance away from a panel for the fans to not be impeded by the panel itself, but that doesn't say anything about how restrictive or open the rest of the area the fans are drawing air through is. A case with fans 1" from the front panel that only has a hole the size of a postage stamp to draw air through wouldn't be very good.

A case like the 500D is not efficient with it's fans when compared to mesh ones, which is shown by GN's standardized tests. OTOH it can overcome that by adding more fans than the GN test, and it's totally functional because the difference between the leaders of the GN charts and the stuff in the middle is not really a big deal in real world conditions. It's a-ok and you shouldn't care that GN rates a lot of cases built on those lines poorly, especially if you like how it looks over the ones that are "better".


Personally something like the 500D is where I'm way more on Steve's side, because it is absolutely designed with some aspects primarily for looks and secondary for either cooling or noise. (Ex: side panel gaps may help cooling, but they're bad for noise.) But that's just me, I don't give a poo poo what my PC looks like. But I also think mesh cases are not always "the best" just because they're the top spots on the GN charts, because there are some things GN doesn't test. Primarily, minimum noise idle.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Nov 13, 2020

Klyith
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njsykora posted:

It depends how close your ties are to Youtube I guess unless they’ve massively improved how much money channels get from ads recently. I remember Tom Scott saying in response to a question a few years ago about how do you support yourself through youtube, “You don’t” and that most of his income came from giving talks.

Bless his heart, the guy who made a video about not being able to do sponsored ads because they were dishonest doesn't make a lot of money from ads? That's where people like LTT are getting the big bucks, not the standard youtube pennies per thousand.



The video game streamers getting stupid money deals isn't about ads though, that's a temporary aberration from Amazon, MS, and Google fighting over a market.

Klyith
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Not Wolverine posted:

Operating as a fly by night jerry rigged tech company is the entire point of Linus Tech Tips.

Very much this. Doing stupid poo poo and things being on fire is why the channel has 12 million subs, y'all are crazy if you can't imagine there is some exaggeration or planned chaos going on. If this poo poo was on TV you'd assume that what was on the screen wasn't 100% reality, this isn't different just because it's on youtube. Thinking you can get any view of the real work environment behind the edited performance of people who know they're doing poo poo for the camera is real dumb, even if it's unscripted.

"Being on the Real World must have been a terrible work environment, they were always yelling at each other."

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Theophany posted:

The posts about how LMG is a poo poo place to work seem to have some extreme unwarranted projection attached to them.

If you worked in a serious business environment, and your boss made you buy some cockamamie storage server his son-in-law who "builds his own computers" had speced out for him, and then it lit on fire, and your boss was yelling "how could this happen?", and you couldn't say "because a raid 0 of raid 5s is loving idiotic you idiot!", and you were looking at losing your job either way it shook out because they are gonna lose a ton of money of data recovery or a ton of money on downtime... that would be a very sucky day.

At LMG, that's just another day making content.


All of that poo poo inside their office isn't their business, it's their set. Their business is on youtube, their forum website, and the store where they sell tshirts & boxers. The real money-making operations are not hosted on home-brew servers in a server room build from a converted under-stairs closet.

Klyith
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Combat Pretzel posted:

It sounds worse than it is. It's relatively seen a nice job, because the activities are diverse. I'm just paid like poo poo, in my opinion anyway. I moved from operating a cable insulation extrusion production line, where most of my day consisted out of 6-7 hours of Netflix and internet browsing, to production planning with a side-dish of statistician and data analyst/programmer. And for some reason I still earn the same (actually less, since I got shift bonuses as blue collar). I certainly don't want back to the factory floor, but I also don't know what else I want to do. IT is interesting, but they want all sort of paper work to consider you worthy. Yet when I look at our IT department (where I applied once, also note that I'm coding regardless), dumping SQL results into an SWT table in Java seems to be considered high art, yet trying to get them to decode a simple Excel formula makes their heads spin like a propeller (happened more than once when me and my senior coworker were both on vacation, and people called them for support). So I'm not sure what extended education I _do_ actually need. Bitter? No sir, not at all.

Paper promotions with no raise or benefits is the worst poo poo, if you haven't made your request for a raise to your boss clear then do so and if you have then send out the resume. Worked the factory floor then promoted into your current position sounds like great bait to me. I have heard recently that data analytics is currently super in demand (covid stuff) at all levels, from professional statisticians with the paper down to "really good with excel".

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so, he upgraded from a reasonably powerful invisible PC that should probably just have used underclocking to avoid throttle* into... a fire hazard that uses a PSU that expects active cooling with no case and no fan. doesn't seem like a great idea to me!

Water cooling has a decent lag between higher power use and higher temperatures, so even if he has all those fans set up to ramp speed when the PC is in use, unless he's got a temperature probe hooked to the PSU it's not good enough.

*pretty much any desktop CPU or GPU can trade 10-20% performance for a 50% power reduction



This is a whooooooole lot of design wank about having his flat bottom that is just really stupid. If you added 2 inches of thickness on the sides, in line with the legs, it would still look like a nice minimal table. And then you could fit some normal SFX gear into those areas, and some normal fans rather than the banks of 40mm ones and 1U water cooling. You could even still do water cooling by putting the PC on one side of the table, then have water lines go across to the other side which could be dedicated to fullsize pumps, rads, & fans.


Mr.Radar posted:

This video is worth watching just to see how frustrated Linus gets as it progresses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-ZayiWAKo

ah, the Merlin Mann definition of minimalism

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well why not posted:

He does acknowledge that the PSU needs active airflow, and there's a lot of air coming through that area, particularly with the plastic strips he's got in as guides.

If those 44mm fans are inaudible, then no, I don't think there is a lot of airflow. While he's got a ton of them, small fans suffer more with reduced RPM than large fans. It's hard to know for sure because he doesn't show any numeric details about the setup like what the fan RPM was; if he only did his garbage bag test at full speed it's not valid. Fans aren't linear, and the garbage bag is testing static pressure more than free air flow.

I don't really know whether the group of fans that are ducting to the PSU are sufficient or insufficient, but from the extreme lack of info I don't think he does either.

well why not posted:

so I guess we'll wait & see.

I mean I don't believe it's going end in flames, as PSUs have overtemp protection and rarely light on fire even when abused. If anything bad happens it'll likely just safely die.

I do think the setup is going to result in reduced lifespan for a number of components, especially the PSU. Stuff is going to be hotter than it would be in normal cases due to the indirect and low airflow. Many things, particularly caps, have less life when hotter. But he's also a youtuber who probably doesn't care about keeping the same components for years.

And imo it's a bad example for a DIY channel to make stuff that needs "do not attempt this" disclaimers without more info. And mostly I think there are much better ways to do it, that I think would still look great without doing something that's an unqualified bad idea.

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tl;dr I'm only disappointed because that guy did repurposed laptop projects and I thought those were great aesthetic design, usefully instructional for a diy, and admirable for a way to recycle / reuse a busted laptop.

Alas, the content machine demands that you top yourself every week.


Romes128 posted:

Also didn't he drop like $500+ on Noctua fans on that build. Nobody's going to do that.

He got em free, sponsored by noctua.

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priznat posted:

Thermaltake is another one I usually looked at a bit shifty-like, but I have nothing to back that up and I’m not dialed into the scene to know what dodgy stuff they are up to.

Thermaltake sources stuff from random chinese factories and has an entirely random standard of quality. Some of their stuff is absolutely fine. Some of their stuff is pretty poor. And some of it is this:


OTOH when the worst of the PSU crunch was happening last year I was looking at available product and found that thermaltake's gold toughpower PSUs were reviewed quite well and were a pretty good buy. If you ever find yourself looking at a thermaltake product, try to just mentally eliminate the brand name entirely. You are looking at a ███████████ product, can you find reviews for that specific product? If so you have an informed decision, if not maybe don't buy it.

Romes128 posted:

Thermaltake has been accused of copying case designs from Fractal and Caselabs a couple years ago. Google it, a ton of stuff shows up.

Everybody copies case designs. Fractal started out with some heavy inspiration from Antec designs, but nobody said boo about it because Antec wasn't popular anymore. Thermaltake has done some pretty shameless copies, but so have other people. There's only so many ways to make cases.

Thermaltake cases are just very weird in that they have some genuinely good stuff in their discount bin, but the cases that are original to Thermaltake are either extremely niche or terrible.



In conclusion, thermaltake is a land of contrast.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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NZXT's problem here isn't being cheap, it's being arrogant. They don't want to admit how big a fuckup their riser is and was hoping steve would just do the first video and then go away.



priznat posted:

Lmao is that a cig lighter and a cupholder for a 5.25” drive bay, good lord.

it's a "automotive accessory power and cupholder"!

(also the "cupholder" has a removable dish so you could use it as an ashtray)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErL39wqO-c

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Worldshatter posted:

the notion of encouraging people to give their money to you to invest it in an ongoing meme stock rubs me a little the wrong way but hey it's not like they were forced to superchat I guess

LTT regularly lights piles of money on fire to entertain the kids, buying gamestop on the downslide is 100% on brand. This is far from the biggest complete waste of money he's done.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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EVIL Gibson posted:

His follow up of saying he feels fine hinting that covid isn't a big deal is a pretty good take.

"I feel fine" does not hint that covid isn't a big deal. Plenty of people who have gotten covid have posted that they had minor case when, you know, they had a minor case. Even people who are totally on board with covid being seriously dangerous.

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Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Lazyhound posted:

What’s the story on that?

There was a BLM march that went vaguely near his house. He's in some loving suburb so I'm sure this was just regular people marching being loud, not a bunch of guys wearing black looking to burn down a police station. This was right after George Floyd so ordinary people were going to marches all over the place.

He tweeted out that he had a gun and was "trained to use it" to defend his family if any of these rioters came into his house.


It was amazingly tone deaf to start with, but then he also doubled down real hard. Guessing he's tried to keep a low profile on anything political since then, but it was super disheartening and turned me right the gently caress off his channel.

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