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What functionally is the difference Outside of the beginning and ending you can go almost anywhere in W3 and do all three sections of the main quest in any order and leave at any time and etc. Mass Effect is like 90% main quest, unless you mean the crappy proc-gen planets in 1 or the handful of short side missions in 2 (never played 3) Is it just that you don't like end credits
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Halloween Jack posted:I'll say the same thing I say about Mass Effect and Witcher and every open world series I like: I want a game with no main quest. Comedy Answer: that's every Bethsoft game since FO4!  Serious Answer: that's basically Kingdom Come, where you are just a worthless peasant who can maybe become a well-armed psychopath.
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Jun 6, 2020 05:25
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I think it would just be more stories since they wouldn't have to use resources on one big one /shrug and can flesh out more smaller ones with detail etc, functionality wise nothing would be different.
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Jun 6, 2020 05:28
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The yakuza games are probably the finest example of having a lot of well-fleshed out content populating a dense open world and even they have really involved main storylines. Its just that they put a laser focus on smaller zones instead of bloating their playable map area.
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Jun 6, 2020 05:39
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When I think of open world games with no main quest, I think of Elder Scrolls, because that is 100% how I played them. Like you can finish the main quest in Morrowind or Oblivion in a couple hours probably, but it is never the reason to play any of those games.
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Jun 6, 2020 07:26
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It’s fascinating that the main quest of Skyrim is “travel an expansive wilderness to fight dragons in order to get their magic powers” but presented in such a boring and unfun way that people would rather dig around for coins and empty cups in a dim, muddy cave.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:20
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Maybe because the actual main quest is a bunch of other crap dotted with maybe three total dragon fights? Most of the actual dragon encounters are separate from the main quest.
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Jun 6, 2020 12:56
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Comedy Answer: that's every Bethsoft game since FO4! It's actually hilarious just how OP you can become in that game. By the time I got to the "go scout the enemy encampment quest whatever you do don't try to fight them you'll get wreck", I was so jacked and geared up I basically The Mountain style whole-sale slaughtered the entire encampment except for the inner area which required the quest to open the doors. I'm still pissed the game never acknowledged my ascension to the Peasant God Of War.
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Jun 6, 2020 13:17
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No main quest would certainly help with the whole dissonace of "The world is ending if I don't stop it" but first let me just learn how to fish, solve a dispute over who owns this castle and pay top dollar for minor weapons from the people's lives I have to save from imminent doom.
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Jun 6, 2020 13:57
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I imagine Warren Spector's "one city block" hypothetical game would fit this philosophy.
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Jun 6, 2020 15:31
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If you took out the main quest from Witcher 3 and maybe separated the standalone quests from it such as the Red Baron storyline, then it would've been a better game. The main quest is the worst part of that game.
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Jun 6, 2020 22:55
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I am hoping that the main plot for 2077 a nice small noir scale.
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Jun 6, 2020 23:03
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Nah. Geralt and Ciri's relationship was tied to all of that and removing it would make it a far weaker game.
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Jun 6, 2020 23:04
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Plus the brief but near the end where Geralt travels through other planes of reality was awesome as gently caress.
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Jun 6, 2020 23:14
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We did it everyone! https://twitter.com/i/status/1269384667981119491 We got police aerostats in 2020 wooooo cyberpunk!
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Jun 6, 2020 23:16
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Jack Trades posted:If you took out the main quest from Witcher 3 and maybe separated the standalone quests from it such as the Red Baron storyline, then it would've been a better game. It veers from average to great? The worst part is most of Skellige. Even the most innocuous sidequests in W3 have a twist or a turn, but Skellige has the highest number of 'just fight some ghouls in a cave or something' Skyrim-style quests, its noticeably a step down. That, and navigating the isles mostly sucks obv.
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Jun 6, 2020 23:40
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Arglebargle III posted:We did it everyone! Some UK police forces have Drones they use for crowd surveillance at events like football matches, things they might expect trouble at. Drone operator will be on the radio calling out where ground units need to be.
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Jun 6, 2020 23:44
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Macrame_God posted:Plus the brief but near the end where Geralt travels through other planes of reality was awesome as gently caress. I did this today, and I wish I'd got to go through Avalachs world he said he'd seen with the star that was going supernova so he had to race to the portal before getting vaporised. I woke up and decided I was going to finish the main campaign and so spent all day doing just that. Even though I got one of the better endings because it was my 2nd playthrough I still feel a little empty now; it's so bittersweet. Looking forward to starting the DLCs that I haven't done yet in a day or so. All new territory from here!
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Jun 6, 2020 23:52
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Cactus posted:I did this today, and I wish I'd got to go through Avalachs world he said he'd seen with the star that was going supernova so he had to race to the portal before getting vaporised. I woke up and decided I was going to finish the main campaign and so spent all day doing just that. Even though I got one of the better endings because it was my 2nd playthrough I still feel a little empty now; it's so bittersweet. Looking forward to starting the DLCs that I haven't done yet in a day or so. All new territory from here! Save Blood & Wine for last. It will give a better sense of closure to everything that way. Heart of Stone has the better main storyline of the two (or of any game in recent memory period) anyway.
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Jun 7, 2020 00:11
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If Ciri isn't a sidequest NPC in this game, I will consider it a failure
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Jun 7, 2020 00:32
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Firebert posted:If Ciri isn't a sidequest NPC in this game, I will consider it a failure CDPR has specifically said that Ciri doesn't appear in Cyberpunk 2077. It's possible that there will be an easter egg mentioning her, but Ciri herself isn't.
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Jun 7, 2020 01:10
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dragonshardz posted:CDPR has specifically said that Ciri doesn't appear in Cyberpunk 2077. It also doesn't preclude a totally not ciri character
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hobbesmaster posted:It also doesn't preclude a totally not ciri character Ciri had silver hair, cyberpunk has Silverhand. Case closed
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Jun 7, 2020 01:12
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There has to be an easter egg or it would be such a missed opportunity. I mean, they managed to fit a Cyberpunk easter egg into the Witcher and have it make complete sense lore-wise and not feel clunky or shoe-horned in.
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I played Witcher 3 for like 60 hours and never saw that. What was it? Edit: oh the Ciri part. Yes that was pretty cool and fun. https://youtu.be/OinRDzEbqXc Blind Rasputin fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Jun 7, 2020 07:39
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There was a fun fan-trailer riffing on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OinRDzEbqXc
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Jun 7, 2020 08:57
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https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/05/from-the-screamsheets-a-statement-by-rtg/ Statement from R. Talsorian Games & Pondsmith. More to come.
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You will not stop me from importing Ciri into CP2077 as my PC  Edit: doingitwrong posted:https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/05/from-the-screamsheets-a-statement-by-rtg/ R. Talsorian Games posted:We don’t just condemn racism. We despise it. itry fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Jun 7, 2020 17:24
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I really cannot wait to play as some corpo douchebag
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Jun 7, 2020 17:41
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:There was a fun fan-trailer riffing on it: This is what we need! They should make a Blood Dragon-esque game with the Cyberpunk engine & assets to hype up the next Witcher game, taking place on the streets of Neo-Novigrad with netrunner-vampires and robot barkers on the corner singing the PamParam song. E: Geralt with mantis blades, one silver, one steel Firebert fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Jun 7, 2020 19:04
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:There was a fun fan-trailer riffing on it: There's a Star Wars version of that which actually fits better.
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doingitwrong posted:https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/05/from-the-screamsheets-a-statement-by-rtg/ I bet CDPR are really glad they reworked the game from the original concept of playing as a cop.
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Jun 7, 2020 19:14
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Cops aren't punk.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I bet CDPR are really glad they reworked the game from the original concept of playing as a cop. Was that really the original concept? Do they speak about that in an interview somewhere?
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Jun 7, 2020 20:02
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Was that really the original concept? Do they speak about that in an interview somewhere? I think their original premise for the game was playing as a member of the cyber psychosis squad what hunts down the cyborgs that have gone kill crazy from all the murder.exe they installed in themselves. But thats what I'd heard like half a decade ago so.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Was that really the original concept? Do they speak about that in an interview somewhere? The teaser trailer, way back, was about a cyber psycho becoming a cyber-psycho catching cop. I don't know if they ever mean for that to be the game though. posting it bc still dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvVjkqB3LH0
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I remember reading an interview that pitched that as the initial concept but maybe I imagined it. They announced the game over seven years ago and as shown the announcement trailer featured the Psycho Squad prominently, so perhaps my memory is just playing tricks. Very possible they never intended to have you play as a cop, or being a cop was going to be one possible background/playthrough option of several. I tried to find a quote and came up empty, but while looking for that I found a Mike Pondsmith interview where he details what the player should do to get into the right mindset for playing Cyberpunk: quote:Go downtown at midnight and stand outside in the cold rain. Wait to get mugged. Beat down the mugger instead. Or barring that, watch Blade Runner, followed by Max Headroom, followed by Ghost in the Shell, drink a couple shots of cheap whiskey and end up the night listening to some really good trance, electronica or dubstep. While making love to your heavily tattooed girlfriend. He then describes his role in assisting CDPR as him being a "Cyberpunk holochron."
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I thought that was just a thematic teaser to get the word out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs posted:The teaser shows how the Psycho Squad might acquire a new member. Firebert posted:E: Geralt with mantis blades, one silver, one steel  Edit: Wicked Them Beats posted:I remember reading an interview that pitched that as the initial concept but maybe I imagined it. They announced the game over seven years ago and as shown the announcement trailer featured the Psycho Squad prominently, so perhaps my memory is just playing tricks. Very possible they never intended to have you play as a cop, or being a cop was going to be one possible background/playthrough option of several. I'm finding myself a little short on muggers or heavily tattooed girlfriends. 
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Jun 7, 2020 21:02
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Glenn Quebec posted:I really cannot wait to play as some corpo douchebag My only goal in the game is to rub buts with the corpo lady from the previews. Screw the robo-ghost inside my head, momma's gotta get some.
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While waiting for this game I've decided to play through Deus Ex Mankind Divided. It's taken about 10 hours of game play to start getting interesting and engaging. I screwed up by not playing the prior release, that looks to have been a better game with more variety of locals to visit. I screwed up again by watching the 12 min refresher video that spoiled all the plot twists so now I don't want to play the previous one. Don't be like me.
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