Cactus posted:

I don't know anything about Cyberpunk 2020/2077 lore so can anyone that does tell me: is there a character build in the tabletop games that can move around the environment like a Warframe?

Cactus posted:

I only ask because in games where I can choose different builds I tend to go for high-mobility if it's a choice - the monk in Diablo or the Dash-master charm in Hollow Knight for example. I like running rings around opponents getting in and out fast and getting from a to b quickly.

I'm getting the impression that the Cyberpunk setting leans towards the more realistic end of the sci-fi scale and not the fantastical? Like, I think I read somewhere that a single gunshot can outright kill an opponent if it hits an artery or head just like irl, and I'm wondering if that will be ported over to the game also.

moxieman posted:

My dude there are states in the US today where it’s legal for anyone to concealed carry, no permit required.

Firebert posted:

If Ciri isn't a sidequest NPC in this game, I will consider it a failure

Bust Rodd posted:

I wasn't able to get into MD and I think HR is one of my fave games of all time.

My problem was that the motivation for Jensen in HR is completely in line with what I want to be doing. I want to save my Dr. Wife, and i want to John Wick the cyborg terrorists who killed my dog! The enemies are mercenary PMC groups that I have no ethical dilemma with killing because they were obviously openly hostile and trying to kill me and my friends.

MD really lacks that for me personally. In MD, your enemies are:

The Cops. ACAB notwithstanding I didn't feel like the game did a good enough job of establishing that the Prague PD were sufficiently corrupt enough that I felt comfy slaughtering them indiscriminately with my robohands. Maybe i missed a sidequest where they were like doing truly evil poo poo behind the scenes but unless they were shooting at me I left them alone.

Golem City Dudes: These are essentially my people. I don't wanna fight any aug in exile.

Mafia: These guys have a couple hosed up missions but again the game doesn't really sell that they all deserve to die. I think i killed the ones directly tied to enslaving that one woman and the ones in the sewers.

My point is that I feel like HR had a bunch of clearly defined evil villains that i could happily and remorselessly own with cool robo powers. MD's enemies left too much morally gray stuff in place and I never really got to go full terminator the way I usually would in these games and as a result i really couldn't get into it. Don't even think i beat it.

Macrame_God posted:

On one hand, Shigeru Miyamoto once said "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." On the other hand, I just upgraded my rig in anticipation for this game's September release!

Glenn Quebec posted:

Why are you guys so condescending towards one of the largest and most successful triple AAA companies today? I see this same kind of language used on ropekid in a separate thread.

Glenn Quebec posted:

I think that there are a variety of other reasons that games go off rails other than "more work then can be finished." It's like film, sometimes it goes over budget and you have to grind it out in long days.

It's part and parcel of the industry imo, love it or leave it

Glenn Quebec posted:

??? By saying that crunch is a result of a complex product like film or video games? Creative endeavors married to technical things take time and there are deadlines, there will be crunch. It's the nature of the product more than the corporation imo. Any corporation would rather ship on time and make their money back asap

Bust Rodd posted:

Can someone please try to explain to me why they automatically assume a longer delay means longer crunch and not that the delay is in fact to prevent crunch and give the staff more time to work on the same amount of bugs?

I’m not trying to be sarcastic or start poo poo I am literally just curious.

Glenn Quebec posted:

You say that but there are as many, if not more, who would say the contrary. Two delays, being lazy, mismanaged, for not pushing crunch whereas here it's suggested that they are mismanaged because crunch exists at all.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

cool. i hope the make a trauma team figure/statue. i love PMC insurance emts just because its so depressingly true. i might pick that up.

sebmojo posted:

No-one is saying it's a good thing, but photo references of insanely horrific poo poo have been in video gaming since doom. Violent video games are horrible murder simulators, we've just got stockholm syndromed into not really noticing.

Chalks posted:

It seems really weird to tie it to your voice selection, it's like it being tied to your hair style or something. If you're not going to go down the classic route of baking it into the entire character creation process it seems pretty dumb to stumble at the final hurdle like this.

Chalks posted:

Can you explain that further? I don't see how the player voice need to be tied to the gender at all - I don't imagine the player refers to themselves in third person. Making it a separate option seems simple.


Totally logical but it makes as much sense as it being based on the physical appearance of the character just like any other game. It doesn't seem to explain it so much as excuse it.

Chalks posted:

It seems like a technical limitation but I just don't see why there couldn't be a button that lets you switch between the two. I'm not saying the voice should be neutral - just have the exact same voice options they have now, plus a toggle that changes how other characters reference you.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the character has a large amount of dialogue in which they directly refer to their own gender that would be too difficult to record again for the additional combinations - but that seems pretty far fetched.

I don't know, from a purely technical perspective it seems really weird for them to get so close to giving people the flexibility they want but then decide to tie it to some seemingly arbitrary part of character creation.

Firebert posted:

One of the Gamespot people who played the demo did a sidequest where you have to rush a guy with a malfunctioning cyberdick to the ripper doc which sounds great!

It really bugs me that they don't have NB options, especially after finding out the amount of customization they are giving us. They/them has been seeing a lot more usage over the last few years, it's going to make the game feel really dated, especially given the setting (like you can literally have no junk or be like 95% cyborg?). Simply just letting you choose your character's pronouns at character select seems like a much more elegant solution than tying it to voice. I wonder if that's something they can patch in later without having to re-record a lot of dialogue?

e: it's just such a weird unforced error and oversight, would've been an easy W and good press for CDPR

fennesz posted:

I'm expecting something very similar to DX:HR stealth. Not incredibly deep by any means, but I'm expecting augments, perks and weapons to give you a lot of options regardless of however you end up wanting to play.

Sab669 posted:

I actually enjoyed TW3 but I went Magic heavy, so I had fun simply just dodging, ducking, dipping, diving, and dodging out of the way while force pushing nerds and lighting them on fire.

As others have said, if this is on par with that / FO4 I'll be plenty content.

Hoping for Titanfall levels of gunplay seems like setting yourself up for disappointment. Blanking on the studio flounders name right now but they're ex COD which, while always good, virtually revolutionized the industry with the quality of COD4MW.

ymgve posted:

That doesn't mean much. Bethesda hired people with multiplayer/netcode experience for Fallout 76, and...well...

necrobobsledder posted:

The issue for me is that I'm struggling to see what Cyberpunk is trying to achieve in terms of combat and gameplay feel now that they've removed wallrunning and there's some reviews criticizing weapons and vehicles this late into the dev cycle. Maybe the massive skill system is the big deal? Combat and movement isn't exactly CDPR's strength historically for sure though and it seems awkward to try to turn Cyberpunk into some competitive FPS. I'd be happy enough with traditional combat being pretty lackluster because I'm not going to play Cyberpunk for combat any more than I'd play the Witcher series to do dumb things with weapons inflicting mass carnage. I'm just hoping that just like when I'm playing the Witcher series that I didn't care that I couldn't use the Metal Gear: Rising blade system to dice monsters and people into tiny bits and that Cyberpunk's deficits in combat don't overshadow the real meat of the game. I'm not liking the GTA comparisons reviewers have made and am hoping CDPR is just loving with reviewers here. If all else fails, I'm just going as full-stealth as possible and avoiding combat to go experience the world, big whoop.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Continue being garbage people

Glenn Quebec posted:

you guys suck

Wicked Them Beats posted:

I like the new thread title.

steinrokkan posted:

Ham posted:

Who has finished the game? The preview event gates you to the introduction only, in a specific part of the city.

Bust Rodd posted:

Geralt is such a refreshing character to play as though. I loved just being a happy, dorky gruff dad. His entire shtick is essentially “dad jokes, great lay, monster hunting” and once you establish that Geralt has simply already lived through so much pain and heartache that he really only chooses to persist for the women in his life. Geralt wants Ciri and Yen and Triss to be happy and healthy and safe, and will do anything to keep them that way. It’s “bad” feminism in that he still sees it as his job to protect them when they are all quite capable of shredding entire infantry units by themselves, but he’s a good person and his heart is always in the right place.

But I also must smash absolutely every non-Ciri lady in the game, life is hard and the nights are lonely.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean to be fair. much like ciri, the good choices when it comes to triss and yenn are mostly, trust them that they are doing the right thing and help them in the way they want you too. geralt is just a protective dude and alot of them game is him coming to terms that others can protect themselves.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah, i wasnt saying the other post was wrong, its just that the game encourages you to let go and trust other people and such.

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

It hadn't even occurred to me why I'm so excited for this before now, but yeah, "DX:HR but with a much larger hubworld" sounds like pure crack to me. Let it be janky as hell, let the writing be disappointing, as long as I can crawl through grime and take down gangs and hack storage units to steal the guns/drugs/bootleg cyberlimbs inside I'm 100% down.

doingitwrong posted:

Hard Boiled is definitely the source of dual wielding pistols fantasy. Who has to answer for dual wielding swords? My first clear memory of it is Drizzt and his two spinning Scimitars.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

two swords feels more workable than duel wielding guns.

Xander77 posted:

Just as dual-wielding two pistols is basically a worse replacement for a machine gun, dual-wielding swords is a worse replacement for a shield \ buckler.

Utgardaloki posted:

the main reason you'd have two swords is that carrying around two swords is less cumbersome than a sword and board set.

and also you're very confident in your ambidexterity, I guess.

Arglebargle III posted:

WD2 is a lot better when you turn up the difficulty to realistic and play like a nerd with a laptop. Going on site becomes a real risk. You try to do everything remotely and if you have to be physically present you have to think about escape routes and distractions.