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She has a really rare form of leukemia (around five cases a year), and she's tested positively to the experimental medication, so now all she needs to do in order to live is pay the pharmaceuticals $25,000 a year for some pills that prevent her from dying. This whole situation feels bad and surreal, I can't imagine what it's like knowing your life, at the minimum, is worth $25,000 a year. I was thinking of setting up a GoFundMe or something, but then it seems so hosed up to look at a number, divide it by 25,000, and calculate the length for which your mom is allowed to live (plus I know my mom and she'll refuse to take the money anyway). Society is hosed up. Sorry to vent.
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Jun 11, 2018 12:53
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gently caress this healthcare system. Imagine running some kind of system where you get to literally send people a price tag and say “this is how much our company has valued your life at, if you want to continue living - pay up.” It’s abominable.
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Jun 11, 2018 12:55
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That's loving grotesque. Just hosed up all around. drat.
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Jun 11, 2018 12:56
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$25k isn't even on the high end for exotic cancer meds. Some of those go for $100k+ a year. Developing medicines is expensive but pharmaceutical companies have lost all sense of decency.
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Jun 11, 2018 12:59
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NihilismNow posted:$25k isn't even on the high end for exotic cancer meds. Some of those go for $100k+ a year.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:05
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it's time for an oceans 8-style medicine heist
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Jun 11, 2018 13:07
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Condolences Lowtax. That is extraordinarily lovely.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:08
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to give you this shitty icon and give Lowtax his cyborg spine parts
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Well we could all vote for the guy that wanted universal healthcare... Too late! Sorry lowtax, it's a bunk system and a bunch of people don't want any change for some reason! It really is hosed up. My grandfather died of leukemia. Has she considered becoming a permanent healthcare tourist to a country that will treat her for less/free? Lowtax posted:It's just the feeling of knowing that if my mom doesn't have enough retirement money saved, or some natural disaster happens, that she literally will be unable to pay to live anymore, that is so unsettling. Attaching a dollar amount to somebody's life has always seemed ghoulish to me, but even moreso when that person is retired and the figure is so high. I guess this is isn't exactly a new direction this country has been headed, but it does seem to be growing more and more extreme. Now imagine working pay check to pay check and having zero retirement savings... That's the situation millions of people are in. An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 13:09
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i'm sorry to hear america is a poo poo hole country
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On a similar note, let's try not to think too hard about how a single medical emergency could potentially run an uninsured person destitute and put them out on the streets in this country. When my wife was hospitalized 8 years ago she was given a "welcome package" that included a pair of socks, billed to our medical insurance for $50. 50 dollar socks, for gently caress's sake. An Ounce of Gold posted:Well we could all vote for the guy that wanted universal healthcare... b-b-b-but socialism..... I feel extra lovely because I live in Debbie Wasserman-Schulz ' district and after everything in 2016 I'm not sure why people keep voting for her except that she's rich and nobody else has gotten close to unseating her. Tim Canova might try again this year, but it's the same situation with so many incumbent politicians here- she'll outlast him by keeping afloat with special interest donations. ElectricSheep fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 13:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLmZNnMT0A Except for real 
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Jun 11, 2018 13:21
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Man, I don't even make $25,000 in a single year.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:23
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TK8325 posted:Man, I don't even make $25,000 in a single year. you should get into the moneymaking business
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Jun 11, 2018 13:23
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america has the best healthcare in the world tho
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Jun 11, 2018 13:24
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Somewhere, at least one middle aged pencil pusher is sleeping soundly
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Jun 11, 2018 13:24
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Cant you like fly to india and get it super cheap there? You know like the hep c meds which are 80k here and 1k there.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:26
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Socialised healthcare helps but countries with it are also extorted by pharmaceutical companies. The medication for pompe disease is €400-700k a year. Pharmaceutical companies are making countries with socialised healthcare have to think real hard about what is still reasonable to spend so someone can live another year (according to our government it is about €80k per quality adjusted life year). Socialised healthcare helps a disease not be the financial ruin of your family but still something has to be done about unethical pharmaceutical companies. Shkreli wasn't the only pharma bro out there playing those games.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:29
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I've never liked the American Healthcare system, but even so it was eye opening going to my current job which has great benefits, and seeing all the supplementary insurance available to cover things that even a good Healthcare plan won't pay for in a medical emergency. Like, I don't expect America to ever have Nordic style socialized medicine, but man, something's gotta give.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:37
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op carrion luggage has a tread here in gbs where he describes having sewage like discharges from his sinuses and even though he was insured for years with no health problems they won't pay for treatment and he had to double mortgage his house so my recommendation is go to the science subforum. there's probably a goon chemist who can synthesize the meds black market style in exchange for like a case of beer a week it's maybe the best option and that's hosed up e: iirc the only reason he was able to get the second mortgage was because the guy at the bank was his bro from older times and went ahead and never checked the "has death cancer" box and made up some other reason he needed the money. otherwise luggage wouldn't have been able to go into crippling long term debt to save his life because the chance he would die before paying it back was too risky for the bank SniperWoreConverse fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 13:39
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Lowtax posted:She has a really rare form of leukemia (around five cases a year), and she's tested positively to the experimental medication, so now all she needs to do in order to live is pay the pharmaceuticals $25,000 a year for some pills that prevent her from dying. This whole situation feels bad and surreal, I can't imagine what it's like knowing your life, at the minimum, is worth $25,000 a year. I was thinking of setting up a GoFundMe or something, but then it seems so hosed up to look at a number, divide it by 25,000, and calculate the length for which your mom is allowed to live (plus I know my mom and she'll refuse to take the money anyway). Sorry, man. I know what that feeling is like because my dad had a type of lymphoma. He was lucky enough to have a decent insurance plan through my mom's employer, but the medical costs were insane. Each round of chemotherapy cost something like $80,000 before insurance adjustments. Eighty fuckin grand. He spent his last two weeks in a PCU (progressive care unit), and my mom said the bills for that were hundreds of thousands, but the hospital essentially wrote it off because my dad died in their care. Like, I dunno what the gently caress anyone is supposed to do in the face of that. My fiancee had to have surgery to remove ovarian cysts and without insurance, it's a 20,000 dollar procedure. Who the hell can afford that poo poo? It's hosed up, and I'm sorry you have to deal with it.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:40
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Sorry to hear it, it's an impossible and insane system to work out $/months of extended life and isn't fair for anyone to have to manage.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:40
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gently caress this bullshit
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Jun 11, 2018 13:42
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thanks obama [for entrenching an already insanely terrible hellworld healthcare system in exchange for tiny breadcrumbs that are dissolving right now anyways]
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Jun 11, 2018 13:42
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American healthcare is so ghoulish that John Q was a completely believable movie. In 2002.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:45
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but what abiut all the heath insurance JOBS!? the conmy will be RUNED if we nationalize them!!
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Jun 11, 2018 13:47
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OP, have you considered getting your mom a discover card like in this commercial from 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtpLc1CPUO8 comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Jun 11, 2018 13:47
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Op have you considered Mozi posted:it's time for an oceans 8-style medicine heist
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Jun 11, 2018 13:50
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also you could try breaking bad
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Jun 11, 2018 13:50
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'save lowtax's mom' is a charity drive i could definitely get behind
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Jun 11, 2018 13:52
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i hope things work out well for your mom lowtax, that sounds like a horrible situation
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Jun 11, 2018 13:52
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Mozi posted:it's time for an oceans 8-style medicine heist Dude.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:55
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Gath posted:Cant you like fly to india and get it super cheap there? You know like the hep c meds which are 80k here and 1k there. Probably not in this case, no. Once drugs are standardized they're easier to get abroad, but pharmaceutical companies have pretty tight control over experimental ones.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:56
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Lowtax I will gay marry you so you and your mom can use our socialist Canadian healthcare.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:57
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Too bad USA is at war with Canada, otherwise you could perhaps have smuggled her across the border
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Jun 11, 2018 13:57
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Has she tried not having leukemia?
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Jun 11, 2018 13:58
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op if you decide to go the heist route, can I be the guy with a telescopic lens tracking guard locations and radioing in? I figure you probably have the computer hacker picked out already
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Jun 11, 2018 13:58
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someone should tell life it can stop making GBS threads on lowtax now.
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Jun 11, 2018 13:58
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SniperWoreConverse posted:op if you decide to go the heist route, can I be the guy with a telescopic lens tracking guard locations and radioing in? I wanna be the 5', 85lb Asian man that does a sweet backflip through a laser grid I just hope the fact that I am 6'5", weigh half a ton, and have never so much as jumped in my life doesn't hurt my chances.
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Lowtax, you should get in touch with as many news organizations and lawmakers as you can to get the word about your mom out into the public.
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