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I can’t get decent coverage bc of a rampant history of rear end cancer, male breast cancer and a bunch of other stuff, if any of that stuff happens to me and it gets real bad I’m a filthy poor so unless major breakthroughs happen before then instead of treatment I’m going to get real doped up and get someone to take me to the highest place they can get me in a sedated state and push me out
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Sarah Palin's daughter has Down Syndrome not autism, you loving retard
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:19 |
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SniperWoreConverse posted:so we got the heist plan, we got the breaking bad plan, we got the flee to a developing nation for better healthcare plan, and we got the get gay married plan Ms. Doubtfire except instead of trying to see your children you cozy up to some pharmaceutical CEO and then one day you get them drunk and they sign a contract that gives you a waiver for free medicine in perpetuity (make sure their children accidentally walk in on you peeing, this is a v. important step). e: plan 2 is to have a baby and (find a doctor who is willing to go along with your plan) tell a newspaper that it is very sick but the doctors want to kill it and then make a kickstarter so you can get experimental therapy in Italy. Pocket the money and then dumpster baby. I guess you don't even need a sick mom for this plan. plan 3: thoughts and prayers. Call Your Grandma fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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that is very sad
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:23 |
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That's a lovely situation and I'm sorry. America is a pretty depressing place.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:23 |
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I just heard that health insurance companies have finally found out how to juggle the Affordable Health Care requirement to not deny preexisting conditions and still be highly profitable. So I guess what they're saying is, "problem solved, sorry about your mom." Health insurance people should be the first ones against the wall when the revolution happens.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:23 |
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Burt Sexual posted:But the poor can't afford it and will die? idgi
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:28 |
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this has been making me so loving MAD. there is literally no source of hope from any institutional forces in this country. we're totally hosed. Gumbel2Gumbel posted:According to BBC News, in 2013 pharmaceutical companies enjoyed higher average profit margins than carmakers, oil and gas companies and media companies. Only banks had a profit margin comparable to Big Pharma, but Pfizer’s 42% profit margin blew every other company out of the water, prompting even a member of its own industry to say, “I wouldn’t be able to justify [those types of margins].” 42% is loving absurd. its good to be a capitalist in an inelastic market with cripplingly strong IP protections i guess Fartbox posted:im so happy to be swedish my hot take is that its because americans have never really suffered, at least not any time in the modern era. there has been no great unifying force, no dawning realization that we're all in this together. and there probably never will be. the fact that the US is virtually unassailable because of the oceans means we'll probably never experience the horrors of war outside of a civil war. on the other hand, north america is the very definition of nuke-bait.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:29 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:And this is in the current state where around half their money is spend on marketing costs. Not R&D, but just marketing. Oh no, the poor destitute drug companies are only making hundreds of millions and not billions!
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:46 |
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Who What Now posted:Oh no, the poor destitute drug companies are only making hundreds of millions and not billions! That wasn't his point at all, his point is that they spend comparatively little on research and more on convincing doctors, nurses, administrators, and everyone in the US that you should be on things like statins despite relatively tiny benefits.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:49 |
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:That wasn't his point at all, his point is that they spend comparatively little on research and more on convincing doctors, nurses, administrators, and everyone in the US that you should be on things like statins despite relatively tiny benefits. If that's true then I'll rescind my comment. It still reads to me that he's saying their profit margins are even lower if you account for R&D tho.
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Who What Now posted:If that's true then I'll rescind my comment. Profit margins take both those into account.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 16:59 |
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The point is that they could have their margins cut even more and all they would have to do is reduce their marketing budget without hitting r&d at all Though lol at the guy saying statins are bad. Take your statins
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:09 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Though lol at the guy saying statins are bad. Take your statins This 100%. If any random internet person tells you not to take a drug chances are you should be gobbling up as much of it as you can.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:13 |
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My doctor wanted to put me on statins after I started the keto diet. I knew he was just a shill of big pharma
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Marketing is more important than R&D though, because new drugs aren't going to help you if nobody knows about them.
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RaySmuckles posted:this has been making me so loving MAD. there is literally no source of hope from any institutional forces in this country. we're totally hosed. if you're really mad you could do some PI work around bonita springs florida where the ceo Ian C. Read has a summer home and when you bump into him- just let him know how you're feeling about them pushing addictive drugs on people and raising the prices severely on meds specifically for cancer and heart disease
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:16 |
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Jesus christ it loving sucks.
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gently caress, I'm sorry for your mom. I spent a chunk of my teens in the US and the first time I thought ''something is seriously wrong with this country'' was when my mother got rushed to the hospital because of abdominal pain. They wouldn't lift a finger to treat her appendicitis until they $1000+ were paid upfront. That poo poo is unthinkable of in Germany simply because health insurance is mandatory and they'll always pass the medical bills directly onto your insurance unless you enter a privately-run institution.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:21 |
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There are definitely some new drugs that are tailored according to individual samples from the patients, and I could see the costs of those being astronomical because of that. Doesn't really apply to a vast majority of them though.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:26 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:The point is that they could have their margins cut even more and all they would have to do is reduce their marketing budget without hitting r&d at all There's a big wrangling in the medical community over cholesterol being way overblown as a source of medical issues, and statins have some serious side effect profiles. It's not really easy to make those calls as a layperson though. If your cholesterol is really fucko high you should probably definitely be on meds.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:28 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:
My ma was on statins for a few years and noticed changes in her short-term memory and what she called "fuzzy" thinking. She went off statins (with her doctor's help) and now just eats healthy and exercises and her cholesterol is fine and so is her brain.
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Call Your Grandma posted:My ma was on statins for a few years and noticed changes in her short-term memory and what she called "fuzzy" thinking. She went off statins (with her doctor's help) and now just eats healthy and exercises and her cholesterol is fine and so is her brain. Oh well dang, let's just throw out all science because some fatty switched from doritios to carrot sticks and from watching wheel of fortune on her chair to wheel of fortune on her treadmill.
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Call Your Grandma posted:My ma was on statins for a few years and noticed changes in her short-term memory and what she called "fuzzy" thinking. She went off statins (with her doctor's help) and now just eats healthy and exercises and her cholesterol is fine and so is her brain. Yeah and anecdotal stories mean gently caress all versus recommendations from actual medical doctors.
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Who What Now posted:Oh well gently caress, let's just throw out all science because some fatty switched from doritios to carrot sticks. That's the problem though. The cholesterol studies everyone has been going on for a few decades now were based on really dubious data. I'm not saying don't listen to your doctor, but like things may be changing soon for how easily that stuff is prescribed, hopefully.
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drug companies are not just charging high prices for rare drugs for rare diseases that only 5 people get a year they're skyrocketing the price of insulin as well and americans are literally dying because they can't afford it [thanks obama] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-skyrocket-putting-many-diabetics-in-a-bind/ quote:Insulin, a life-saving medication used to treat diabetes, was discovered nearly 100 years ago, yet the price of the drug has now spiked by 700 percent in just two decades.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:35 |
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Nurge posted:I'm not saying don't listen to your doctor, My whole sarcasm thing is about listening to your doctor and not listening to random, probably incredibly wrong testimonials on the internet. I'm working on being a less of an rear end in a top hat and it's an ongoing process.
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comedyblissoption posted:drug companies are not just charging high prices for rare drugs for rare diseases that only 5 people get a year reminder that the dude what made insulin went to great lengths to make it free at the time lmao
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comedyblissoption posted:drug companies are not just charging high prices for rare drugs for rare diseases that only 5 people get a year They made tweaks to the formula and used a lot of that budget to make doctors prescribe the expensive one.
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Who What Now posted:Oh well dang, let's just throw out all science because some fatty switched from doritios to carrot sticks and from watching wheel of fortune on her chair to wheel of fortune on her treadmill. She was never fat but ate regular food, now she eats about 1/2 the meat she used to and goes to various exercise classes at the community centre where she can be healthy and socialize with other seniors. Every single pill you take has long term side effects, and if you can choose between a lifestyle change and a prescription you are better off with the lifestyle change.
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Who What Now posted:My whole sarcasm thing is about listening to your doctor and not listening to random, probably incredibly wrong testimonials on the internet. Yeah just to be clear I absolutely do not recommend dropping your medication because of what I said. Just that stuff with cholesterol is under a huge debate right now because of the old studies that led to widespread medication against it apparently failing to meet scientific rigor in a pretty huge way. Remains to be seen what actually happens. Do take your meds if they were prescribed though.
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GBS hates fat people but they also hate big pharma for killing fatties by raising the price of insulin makes you think
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:44 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:GBS hates fat people but they also hate big pharma for killing fatties by raising the price of insulin GBS hates everyone. As it should be.
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http://www.cmj.org/article.asp?issn=0366-6999;year=2018;volume=131;issue=4;spage=471;epage=476;aulast=Li Here is a review that describes how my anecdote isn't just an isolated incident. If you, or someone you know, notices side effects you can talk to your doctor about your treatment. The 10 minutes you get with your GP sometimes isn't enough to develop a tailored treatment regimen, who would have guessed? Here is another anecdote: When I was in grade 5 we had to watch a video about a euthenasia case and then write out a couple of paragraphs about what we thought. I handed in the following: I agree with the doctor because doctors are smart. I failed that assignment and my teacher wrote that she expected more from me (a 10 year old).
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I'm seriously considering a move back to Europe. America seems morally bankrupt without a desire to fix it.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:53 |
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Being a doctor is a really hosed up profession. You're expected to keep tabs on everything that changes and the new recommendations at all time, and you're constantly loving swamped. You're responsible for everything that goes wrong with patients. It's no wonder they get paid the big bucks. I'm glad I'm in biochemistry instead of directly dealing with that stuff.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 17:53 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:GBS hates fat people but they also hate big pharma for killing fatties by raising the price of insulin quote:About 1.25 million Americans have type 1 diabetes and an estimated 40,000 people will be newly diagnosed each year in the U.S.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:GBS hates fat people but they also hate big pharma for killing fatties by raising the price of insulin i'm not a fan of people who deal with sugar induced diabetes and pretend it was never their fault, but you have to remember the people born with type I diabetes as well. Parents shouldn't go bankrupt over something like this at all. it's ridiculous
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disappointed that it took so long for the emote to appear itt
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lmbo
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