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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!


Dinosaur Gum

SeANMcBAY posted:

What do you mean?

On the CSS her dragon arm is all scaly and dragon like, her ingame model both her arms are all noodle

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sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011



jivjov posted:

On the CSS her dragon arm is all scaly and dragon like, her ingame model both her arms are all noodle

That arm gets temporarily powered up to the scaly version after she throws an opponent.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




sleeptalker posted:

That arm gets temporarily powered up to the scaly version after she throws an opponent.

It's the same in Arms. Her arm only turns dragon when she's powered up so it's accurate in Smash.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I made this thing, maybe you'll agree with its message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1pVLAW3Ao

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Kunio would be pretty interesting just to see Sakuraiís 3D take on that classic sprite. Iím confident heíd do like he did with Mega Man and the Belmonts.

SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 30, 2020

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010




Pillbug

Lurdiak posted:

I made this thing, maybe you'll agree with its message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1pVLAW3Ao

I like this, this is good. More retro representation is always appreciated.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012


Lurdiak posted:

I made this thing, maybe you'll agree with its message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1pVLAW3Ao
Ooh, nice. We could always use a 2D beat-'em-up hero like Axel Stone, the Lee brothers, or Kunio and Riki, of course.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Kunio or Billy Lee would my choice for a brawler rep. Mike Hagger would be rad too.

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Supersonic Shine posted:

Ooh, nice. We could always use a 2D beat-'em-up hero like Axel Stone, the Lee brothers, or Kunio and Riki, of course.

Billy and Jimmy are right behind Kunio and Riki on my Smash wishlist. I went with Kunio because his sports titles give him a bit more variety compared to the straightforward fight-men we already have in-game, and his moveset was a bit more interesting to come up with as a result.

SeANMcBAY posted:

Kunio would be pretty interesting just to see Sakuraiís 3D take on that classic sprite. Iím confident heíd do like he did with Mega Man and the Belmonts.

Kunio-kun's SD proportions would be fun to see, it would be lame if they went with his more realistic design from the like 4 games where he's not using Big Head mode.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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At this point my impressions of Min Min, having played both as her and against her, is that she is unfortunately not very good. She has a lot of the same problems that Little Mac has, namely that she has a poor recovery and not great (but not as bad) aerials. She is frequently reduced to only having a few possible mixups and, ironically considering her range, she is both easily camped and relatively easy for the high tier aggressive fighters to approach.

Still fun, but I wouldn't expect to see her too much competitively outside of some insane Japanese Min Min God

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Lurdiak posted:

Billy and Jimmy are right behind Kunio and Riki on my Smash wishlist. I went with Kunio because his sports titles give him a bit more variety compared to the straightforward fight-men we already have in-game, and his moveset was a bit more interesting to come up with as a result.

Kunio would better from a history standpoint as well but the Lee bros would be better for the west. They could at least include music from both series if either got in.

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true


Ridley's Skewer does 6% more on hit (for a total of 69%, nice), but:

https://twitter.com/butols_buto/sta...1466875904?s=20

It was a successful hit, you can see Mario took the full damage, but he didn't crumple. This seems to consistently happen straight out of dthrow, which was never a true setup anyway, but was a halfway decent mix-up that could catch an opponent mashing airdodge or attack. It may just be a glitch, but I think the damage buff is supposed to be a trade off for this, which isn't worth it at all because now Ridley's Skewer, which takes half a second to come out, is unsafe on hit.

So, that's pretty annoying. I'm glad for all the characters that got buffs (they may have went a little ham on Falco imo), but both of my characters got band-aid buffs and one got a huge stealth nerf, which leaves me a little bitter. Here's hoping it really is a glitch and it'll be fixed along with Min Min's persistent long arms in the kill screen in patch 8.x.0.

Maybe I'll pick up Meta Knight, he was always fun.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

Goons Steal?
No Dignity!



Lurdiak posted:

I made this thing, maybe you'll agree with its message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1pVLAW3Ao

Very nice!

I've been thinking of Kunio-kun lately, too. Ever since Sakurai mentioned how they had Horikawa (vegeta) do voice work for Captain Falcon in the Min Min trailer, and how that's the first time they had him record for Smash since 64, i've been wondering if maybe Horikawa was already there doing voice work for an upcoming character, and Kunio-kun is one of his few video game roles.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend



Not sure if this is the right place to ask but a lot of smashtubers or scene guys are posting on twitter going "I'm so loving disgusted with this community" "I can't loving believe what is happening" "People need to be punished." and I can't figure out what the hell any of them are talking about because it's all vague. Alpharad, Coney, Wizzy etc

What is actually happening

prayer group
May 31, 2011

$#$%^&@@*!!!


Dedede buffs feel great. Uair and Fair kill much more easily, uptilt is basically Mario upsmash now, and downtilt sends at a super low angle which makes it even better at ledge. Dedede's biggest weakness was every move launching super far but not killing, and having more reliable kill options really helps with that.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but a lot of smashtubers or scene guys are posting on twitter going "I'm so loving disgusted with this community" "I can't loving believe what is happening" "People need to be punished." and I can't figure out what the hell any of them are talking about because it's all vague. Alpharad, Coney, Wizzy etc

What is actually happening
Alpharad just retweted this:
https://twitter.com/wolfiisaur/stat...824597212053506

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true


ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but a lot of smashtubers or scene guys are posting on twitter going "I'm so loving disgusted with this community" "I can't loving believe what is happening" "People need to be punished." and I can't figure out what the hell any of them are talking about because it's all vague. Alpharad, Coney, Wizzy etc

What is actually happening

The couple that come to mind are:

1) Someone made some NFSW art of two prominent female smashers. I haven't seen the art myself.
2) A video from 2014 was found where ESAM says the N-word 13 times across something like four Smash 4 wifi matches, along with one homosexual slur.
3) The Jtails thing that Dabir posted.
4) People are asking for CaptainZack to be unbanned from events. He initially received a one-year ban for bracket manipulation.

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007




Maple Leaf posted:

The couple that come to mind are:

1) Someone made some NFSW art of two prominent female smashers. I haven't seen the art myself.
2) A video from 2014 was found where ESAM says the N-word 13 times across something like four Smash 4 wifi matches, along with one homosexual slur.
3) The Jtails thing that Dabir posted.
4) People are asking for CaptainZack to be unbanned from events. He initially received a one-year ban for bracket manipulation.

Zack received a five-year ban, which is why people are saying to unban him now.

sharrrk
Feb 13, 2012

It's time to party!


the ban on zack was completely absurd, its been more than long enough to let him back. although i wouldnt blame him at all if he didnt even want to come back

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true


Reiley posted:

Zack received a five-year ban, which is why people are saying to unban him now.

My mistake.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010



Maple Leaf posted:

Ridley's Skewer does 6% more on hit (for a total of 69%, nice), but:

https://twitter.com/butols_buto/sta...1466875904?s=20

It was a successful hit, you can see Mario took the full damage, but he didn't crumple. This seems to consistently happen straight out of dthrow, which was never a true setup anyway, but was a halfway decent mix-up that could catch an opponent mashing airdodge or attack. It may just be a glitch, but I think the damage buff is supposed to be a trade off for this, which isn't worth it at all because now Ridley's Skewer, which takes half a second to come out, is unsafe on hit.

So, that's pretty annoying. I'm glad for all the characters that got buffs (they may have went a little ham on Falco imo), but both of my characters got band-aid buffs and one got a huge stealth nerf, which leaves me a little bitter. Here's hoping it really is a glitch and it'll be fixed along with Min Min's persistent long arms in the kill screen in patch 8.x.0.

Maybe I'll pick up Meta Knight, he was always fun.
This seems to be because skewer is now treated as a grab and thus can't land just after you throw an opponent. This may or may not be intentional.

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010




Pillbug

If it's a grab does that mean it beats shields now, or is it a pseudo grab like buster wolf or fishing rod?

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013






Haha gently caress.

I remember I used his videos to learn poo poo on Ness and asked specifically if there was anything hosed up on the dude here and people said, no he seemed fine, of course how could they know.

How are people so hosed up?

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014




100YrsofAttitude posted:

How are white guys so hosed up?

edited for accuracy

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S


Maple Leaf posted:

The couple that come to mind are:

1) Someone made some NFSW art of two prominent female smashers. I haven't seen the art myself.
2) A video from 2014 was found where ESAM says the N-word 13 times across something like four Smash 4 wifi matches, along with one homosexual slur.
3) The Jtails thing that Dabir posted.
4) People are asking for CaptainZack to be unbanned from events. He initially received a one-year ban for bracket manipulation.

Jesus loving christ. I thought it was just some transphobia or something, which is already really bad. I should have known that it's always worse.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010



ESAM, by the way, has given the ever elusive Actual Genuine Apology For Being A Piece Of poo poo on his twitter and also said this https://twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/1278088280580505601
Also he fundraised for a BLM charity like a week back. Knowing that, I was quite shocked to see this from 2014, but I guess 6 years is a pretty long time actually.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

You never know
just how you look
through other people's eyes


prayer group posted:

Dedede buffs feel great. Uair and Fair kill much more easily, uptilt is basically Mario upsmash now, and downtilt sends at a super low angle which makes it even better at ledge. Dedede's biggest weakness was every move launching super far but not killing, and having more reliable kill options really helps with that.

Yeah I just spent about an hour and a half absolutely deleting new min mins on quickplay. The buffs didn't change anything fundamental, but they sure made it easier to mess people up all around.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Amppelix posted:

ESAM, by the way, has given the ever elusive Actual Genuine Apology For Being A Piece Of poo poo on his twitter and also said this https://twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/1278088280580505601
Also he fundraised for a BLM charity like a week back. Knowing that, I was quite shocked to see this from 2014, but I guess 6 years is a pretty long time actually.

What did this guy do?

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014




there's a video floating around where on a stream he said the n-word hella number of times

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010



SeANMcBAY posted:

What did this guy do?

come on, it was in literally the post right above mine

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend



SeANMcBAY posted:

What did this guy do?

6 years ago there was a chant that included the hard r. He said it a number of times when talking about how he didn't like it and it got clipped to make it look like he was going on some racist rant. He apologized for it last year apparently but it's getting brought up again due to everything surfacing.

He also dropped a gay slur in the same clip so ymmv

https://twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/1277956194032812032


E: Maybe I'm getting two things mixed up, I'm not sure - just trying to piece things togethers

ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jul 1, 2020

Concurred
Apr 23, 2003

My team got swept out of the playoffs, and all I got was this avatar and red text



the villager buffs are incredible. the ending lag being shortened and the faster attacks are so noticeable it's amazing

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.


Lots of child grooming and racial tension in e-sports lately.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.



Theta Zero posted:

Lots of child grooming and racial tension in e-sports lately.

oh no, not lately. always.

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014




also it's not "e-sports" it's society in general

LanceKing2200
Mar 27, 2007
Brilliant!!

Maple Leaf posted:

The couple that come to mind are:

1) Someone made some NFSW art of two prominent female smashers. I haven't seen the art myself.
2) A video from 2014 was found where ESAM says the N-word 13 times across something like four Smash 4 wifi matches, along with one homosexual slur.
3) The Jtails thing that Dabir posted.
4) People are asking for CaptainZack to be unbanned from events. He initially received a one-year ban for bracket manipulation.

In addition to this, as a result of the exposure this stuff is getting right now, a TON of Women/Trans people/Gay people in the community have been sharing stories of when there were harassed/assaulted at events.

Theta Zero
Dec 22, 2014

I've seen it.


Sea Lily posted:

oh no, not lately. always.

I'm sure it's been going on for a while, but between following Smash and a couple fighting games and what I hear from friends in the MOBA and FPS scene, tons of accusations regarding both are pouring out.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Amppelix posted:

come on, it was in literally the post right above mine

Itís hard to keep track of these people with their pro gamer names.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010



Yeah accusations are happening right now because it's easier to speak in numbers, but you should remember that this stuff is always happening even when we don't hear about it.

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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.



Amppelix posted:

Yeah accusations are happening right now because it's easier to speak in numbers, but you should remember that this stuff is always happening even when we don't hear about it.

yeah, absolutely this. these are not new issues. they're just being treated more seriously and given more attention now. people feel more safe coming forward because their abusers will be (likely) held accountable instead of the victims being forced out of the community.

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