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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Cicadas! posted:

how is it that all links online have a poo poo connection

do they choose link because of their garbage lag, or does link just retroactively poo poo on all your packets?

I've been playing Link with dedication since Smash 64 and can confirm that picking Link causes your ping to shoot up 80ms

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Macaluso posted:

Hey quickplay, can I fight like K. Rools or Donkey Kongs or Mewtwos or something instead of Shulks and Links and Lucinas for a little bit who never stop moving and jumping like their game is set to turbo mode

Maybe throw in something I never fight like a Duck Hunt or a Bowser or something. Gimme some variety

I have yet to fight another Link but maybe that's because I play him a lot and the system tries to avoid dittos?

One of the best sets of matches I've played so far was me as Dr. Mario vs a Lucario though

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Personally the only feature that I find myself really missing is boss rush. This game has about as many bosses as brawl but no way to consistently fight them aside from classic mode on certain characters.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Kashuno posted:

Ok what do I do as Palutena Vs DK. Every other matchup feels doable/winnable and if I lose it's just a loss no big deal, but I have yet to beat a single DK period. I feel like I have no options

The Dong is Strong but has no ranged moves and has a predictable recovery. Palutena might have more success zoning him out with her projectiles.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I've been trying to determine which damage types apply to Mewtwo for the purposes of spirits (magic, PSI, or explosion/fire) and my exhaustive research has led me to the conclusion that nobody knows.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Pollyanna posted:

Is it normal to, like, expect the same thing of certain inputs regardless of fighter? I’ve somehow managed to internalize things like “up-b = lots of upward damage” and “dair = everything around me gets hurt”, and it’s really hard when those moves aren’t anything like that for whoever I’m playing as (e.g. Mega Man). How do I train myself out of those expectations?

Play lots of different characters until you have their moveset memorized.

Go into smash and fight CPU's while picking random.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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With my latest world of light runthrough Adam Malkovitch has killed himself with c4 every single time. It's at the point where it feels like the game is aware that Other M was poo poo and is trying to tell me.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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everything that has a spirit should be a playable fighter tbh

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Why can't I main Wii Fit Board

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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fadam posted:

Is there a shittier more pointless move in this game than Ness' neutral b?

You're supposed to use it to edgeguard. If you've just been throwing it out at random you're doing it wrong.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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How is this game's massively expansive soundtrack missing Vs Dark Samus from Prime 2 considering it's Dark Samus' Smash debut and the character is really popular

Instead we get like 3 or 4 forgettable Other M tracks

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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At least the delightfully campy Brinstar Brawl remix/Prime 1 title remix are still in

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Crusher posted:

I feel Sora would be an obvious choice for eventual DLC. With a new game coming out and a history of Nintendo titles it would make sense. And I mean, he's practically a sword user and Smash Bros loves that poo poo.

Trouble is I think the rights to Sora and any other KH OC are owned by Disney, or at least partially owned, which would mean they'd need to be on board too.

Of course we know one of the new DLC characters is going to be a Square one and the only other character I can think of that is Cloud-tier without basically being Cloud is Chrono and fat chance in hell of that happening.

Square won't even put in any FF spirits or more than 2 FF tracks.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Not to mention Sora's obvious final smash would be trinity limit and that would involve putting Goofy and Donald Duck in a Smash game

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:

I feel like Bethesda, Ubisoft and Microsoft are the only contenders to get a Western Third Party Character into Smash. Doomslayer, Ezio/Rayman/Rabbids, or Banjo/Conker, probably.

Blizzard as well, since they have mascot characters and have demonstrated a fondness for crossovers. Tracer/Arthas could work for example

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Neutral like that is kind of like rock paper scissors tbh and you need to be able to read your opponent and try to figure out what they're going to do next so you can counter

if they attack, shield and punish (grab is the most common out of shield punish)
if they grab, dodge and punish
if they roll or dodge, attack and punish

this is obviously horribly oversimplified but it's one of the reasons why part of getting good at smash is just playing it so much that you can intuitively read your average opponent

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I recommend playing whatever character you want because any character can become good if you play them enough. Basic rules are applicable to every character.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Good Zeldas realize that they have really good aerials and learn to short hop out of shield to punish. She is strongest at range but that doesn't make her helpless if she isn't and lots of online players aren't sure what to do when confronted by a close-range Zelda who doesn't immediately run or simply fold.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Skeletome posted:

This week I hit elite smash with Ridley and I think he's the best boy. The imposter syndrome is dream tho since half my wins are gimping with plasma

Gimping is relatively high tier play even with projectiles.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I don't know if I would recommend Fox to beginners but that might just be because I personally am bad with rushdown characters.

theSpokeyDokey posted:

Yeah I started and played most of the game so far with Mario but I am getting bored with him now and that down B is terrible.

Down B is an extremely good gimp tool and it's way better than Mario Tornado was.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I don't know I've given up on ever being validated by the cryptic Japanese algorithm and just play whoever I feel like even if I suck with them.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Okay which one of you loving goons is the NA R.O.B. whose preferences are set to 7 minute Stamina with high spawn rate special flags only

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dr Mario is fun because relatively few people play him and so most people don't know to respect the capsules

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Bleck posted:

a local Cloud main is trying to tell everyone that Dedede is overpowered after playing some matches against me

I was playing my best character earlier today and was getting repeatedly bodied by a Ganondorf, and I was a little mad before I remembered how great it is to be getting my rear end kicked by Ganon

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I'm a giant fraud who loses repeatedly yet my roster GSP remains the same, which is a problem because it means whenever I want to take a new character online my first battle is always against some tournament level grognard playing for keeps

I suspect that the key is what maps I set my preferences to. If you pick battlefield or fd you're more likely to be matched with hardcore folks because they're more likely to pick one of those two configurations.

I personally have decided to stick with hazards off even though the game's definition of what constitutes a "hazard" is dumb as hell.

Hazards off for the pac-man autoscroller for example only changes the fire hydrants which no longer will spray water. You still have to navigate through an autoscrolling mspaint town with no clear perspective half the time

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The French Army posted:

The Links' shields utterly baffle me. Especially Young Link. How can a piece of bark absorb a fully charged arm cannon shot? There's hardly any pushback either. What the hell.

Edit: They eat morph ball bombs too if you drop them right in their faces. They don't explode, they simply disappear.

its made from the sacred wood of the deku tree

I've got nothing for Toon Link's shield though considering it was a decoration on your grandmas wall you only get as part of a cosplay set

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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One thing I'd like to mention for World of Light is that the Mysterious Dimension is genuinely more unsettling to me than any horror game I've played in recent memory and it's pretty impressive how it does that by just being a glorified board game.

R.O.B. being found in the dump hit home

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Cicadas! posted:

fuckin' absolutely

It would encourage players to learn and become proficient with more characters, thus becoming more flexible as a player, and it would make the pick order a part of the battle in itself. Pre-emptive counterpicks and counter-counterpick mindgames.
Plus it would be way more fun to watch 6-10 different characters duke it out vs the same 2.

I'm picturing a lot of Chrom-Marth-Lucina-Roy-Ike teams

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Chrom is good at everything except recovering and boy howdy is he bad at recovering.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Who has the worst recovery in the history of Smash? Smash 64 Link comes to mind.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Chase them until they can't run any further and then punch them.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Theta Zero posted:

This is a patently terrible game and I regret having 100% it.

Mods?!?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also, Goemon for Smash

Konami is already all in why the hell not. At least give me an assist trophy

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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on a larf I decided to add the RedLetterMedia crew to Smash and Rich Evans ended up carrying me to 2.6 mil GSP

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Crusher posted:

I need to figure out how to apply safe pressure better. Notably with Zelda.

I discovered today that if I try to do my usual pressure of a short-hop fair to fish for a lightning kick against a Ganondorf and he blocks it, that he gets a free up smash against me before I even land behind him. That seems extremely punishing!! What exactly should I be looking to do when I want to apply pressure? I don't feel like a lot of short hop aerials are very safe against blocks.

If you mean safe pressure in melee range her safest move is probably short hop neutral air or Nayru's Love.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Crusher posted:

I guess that's my problem then. I mean I pretty much use my long range specials until they get close but I don't treat it as a runaway game. I've trained my muscle memory to fish for short hop lighting kicks a lot and I generally don't get punished if I cross up. But I'm slowly discovering that now maybe it's not the best thing to use willy nilly.

That's fine because it means you're getting better enough to be matched with players who will force you to adjust your playstyle to close weaknesses you weren't aware of before.

For me this was when I got to a certain GSP as Link where I started to get creamed until I learned how to use my remote bombs.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Maple Leaf posted:

I'm about to participate in an online tournament filled with the best Atlantic Canada has to offer, if anyone would like to watch. I'm Croi and I main Ridley and Wario. Hopefully I do well!

Good luck, we need all the high tier Ridleys we can find

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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RatHat posted:

Speaking of the plant I bet there are gonna be a ton of people who haven't got their code when it comes out.

Gmail puts it in the promotions tab and I had it for 2 days before I found it.

PSA if you bought the game digitally you're already registered to get your free plant.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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SeANMcBAY posted:

I like both. I love that the final ultimate normal kit of the game is some gaudy golden clown sword and a nightmare shield with a screaming face on it. The razor sword would work better as an alt though in Smash.

By far the biggest missed opportunity in Smash Ultimate IMO is that they didn't incorporate Fierce Deity into Young Links final smash

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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me trying to play fox

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