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Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?
Drones would of solved every problem in Aliens. They could of scanned the planet, located the colonists, extracted the company's facehuggers, and set the nukes. But I like my future primitive aesthetic (otherwise known as made in the 1980s). I like my future people smoking in board rooms and using dot matrix printers.

Sorry, I know this discussion is about the dumb rear end later movies.

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Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

my dad works for jpl and relishes telling people mars will be fully explored and documented by robots before a human ever sets foot there

Yup. It really doesn't make sense doing it any other way.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Napoleon Bonaparty posted:

Ridley Scott is as dumb as his characters

He never got over being an advertiser. Good at pretty pictures, but nary an idea in his head. Sometimes he gets paired with a decent screenwriter and everything works out.

I'd say he has the terminal brain rot of just being old as poo poo now.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Tiberius Christ posted:

alien is such a xenophobic slur it should be undocumented space immigrant

She thought they said ILLEGAL alien and signed up.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Colonel Cancer posted:

The original alien was just a well directed retarded slasher film but in space instead of some teenager party. Let's not pretend that it has any merit beyond creepy Giger aesthetics.

Being a visual artform, film doesn't have to be complex or offer sophisticated dialogue to be art. If Alien was bogged down with sci-fi dialogue and speculation it would be would a complete bore lacking in mystery and interest. Its beauty is in its atmosphere, simplicity and visual subtext. The fact it doesn't explain anything makes the alien interesting. The more the series explained about xenomorphs, the less interesting they became. Yes, it's also a slasher film, and like Halloween before it, a brilliant example of the genre.

Love Rat fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 13, 2018

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Blazing Ownager posted:

Is that the one where the main character from Gladiator turns out to be immortal and he goes through history conquering enemies and eventually ends up a rock star God?

Because that was a legitimate thing and Crowe really wanted to do it. I say gently caress it, go for broke, sounds hilarious

So basically, Gladiator takes place in the Highlander setting (or in a Bal-Sagoth song). I like it.

Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?

Blazing Ownager posted:

The lack of a Highlander reboot confuses me, if only because the concept of Highlander is really solid and the series went so far off the rails that it seems like a perfect reboot candidate. Like it's just popular enough that people would remember it but niche enough that I'd actually be behind a reset.

Agreed, it's basically the perfect setting for all kinds of awesome adventure through the ages. You can pretty much set them anywhere in time. With the right team, you could squeeze some awesome content and dollars out of that franchise.

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Love Rat
Jan 15, 2008

I've made a psycho call to the woman I love, I've kicked a dog to death, and now I'm going to pepper spray an acquaintance. Something... I mean, what's happened to me?
There is this thing called believability that adds to someone's ability to lose themselves in a work. If you believe in the world, the characters, and everything seems to be internally consistent it's much easier to invest in a story and suspend disbelief. It's not important that a work be realistic, but it is important to at last seem coherent and believable. Even Ghostbusters is believable within its framework because it establishes certain rules and has the characters behave in a way that's consistent with the universe.

When smart people do really dumb things, when specialists are all incompetent, one loses faith in the story and divests. Maybe one can argue that smart people do dumb things all the time, but it's hard to take seriously the fate of characters that sabotage themselves constantly. When characters behave in an intelligent, problem-solving way it's easier to follow them and root for them.

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