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coconono posted:which always makes for great matches They can do a Brawl for All where the Winner get their contract annulled.
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Chris James 2 posted:https://twitter.com/sescoops/status/1098969876834775046 Yeah...I think everyone could see the writing on the wall when all the popular characters were either written out, no-shows for season 4, or they started taking many bookings elsewhere indicating that they've moved on. The whole "wrestlers suing them to get out of their contracts" thing felt like the end.
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Martinpale posted:Yeah...I think everyone could see the writing on the wall when all the popular characters were either written out, no-shows for season 4, or they started taking many bookings elsewhere indicating that they've moved on. The whole "wrestlers suing them to get out of their contracts" thing felt like the end. Agreed. The way they handled stuff in season 4 seemed like a messy step for the right reason. After being lovely about contracts, they fixed things by allowing people to leave the company as long as they showed up to get written out. It made the season chaotic, but on its way to figuring out its new status quo. Then it turns out the contract stuff was even shadier than expected and it's like nobody wants to be part of the series anymore.
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Erebus posted:Man, early LU was so much fun. It really was, and while taping an entire season at once helped a lot, story-wise, I think it also ended up hurting them in the long run. They couldn't pivot and take advantage of things like Pentagon being incredibly over when they probably should have given him the title much earlier.
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When it debuted Lucha Underground was fresh, exciting and different but when the novelty wore off it never really improved or changed and, in fact, doubled down so hard on all of its worst aspects to that I went from loving it, to apathetic, to actively disliking it and wishing it would go away. It's pretty much the Bray Wyatt of wrestling promotions.
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I'll always suspect that part of what happened was the difference between a production team made up of Trump stans in 2014 and the same crew in 2018. Other than a few jobber appearances by Cubanish Sammy Guevara, I don't think they added a single Latino character in Season 3 or 4. The show went from being passionate about Mexican and Mexican-American culture to Jack Swagger and Sami Callihan.
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Martinpale posted:It really was, and while taping an entire season at once helped a lot, story-wise, I think it also ended up hurting them in the long run. They couldn't pivot and take advantage of things like Pentagon being incredibly over when they probably should have given him the title much earlier. I don't think Pentagon vs. Matanza at the end of season 2 was bad, but it was the first major disappointment in the show. The match was too big and neither guy could lose, so we got an overbooked ending out of the season's big finale. On paper, it was fine to build up the third season towards Pentagon winning the title, but they handled that really badly. First off, the mid-season break did nobody any favors and made the show cool off too much. Then they did the Cueto Cup, which was overwhelming with screwy endings on a show that was usually really good about not doing screwy endings. Then Pentagon's ascension to top guy was done in a really lovely way that didn't really make him look good at all while also screwing with the Gift of the Gods gimmick.
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They should have had Pentagon be top guy and stay there. No one else in LU was anywhere near as over after season 1.
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Explosions posted:I'll always suspect that part of what happened was the difference between a production team made up of Trump stans in 2014 and the same crew in 2018. Other than a few jobber appearances by Cubanish Sammy Guevara, I don't think they added a single Latino character in Season 3 or 4. The show went from being passionate about Mexican and Mexican-American culture to Jack Swagger and Sami Callihan. I still have a strong suspicion that when Konnan left, he took all the good ideas with him
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SamuraiFoochs posted:They should have had Pentagon be top guy and stay there. No one else in LU was anywhere near as over after season 1. Yeah, the reaction to Penta cashing in the Gotg on Puma should have told them something...and as a viewer, it was a very "so..i'm supposed to be happy that Puma didn't lose his career, and be upset that Pentagon cashed in on him...but I really, really like Pentagon and he's needed to be champ forever, so...??" thing. And the crowd didn't give a gently caress about the Puma stuff, given the reaction as soon as they realized that Penta was cashing in.
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The class actions suit has been dropped, Ivelisse, Joey Ryan, Kobra Moon and El Hijo del Fantasma have all been released effective immediately https://luchacentral.com/lucha-cent...ediate-release/
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That's good for all involved. This whole thing was always weird as poo poo as a hybrid between tv show contracts and wrestling. The idea of touring and such didn't work out, the show is dead. Let the wrestlers go.
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Gavok posted:I don't think Pentagon vs. Matanza at the end of season 2 was bad, but it was the first major disappointment in the show. The match was too big and neither guy could lose, so we got an overbooked ending out of the season's big finale. On paper, it was fine to build up the third season towards Pentagon winning the title, but they handled that really badly. The definitive great episode of early Lucha Underground to me was one where every match had a screwy finish for the sake of story, but to make up for it to people who just wanted to see good wrestling, there was a pretty great 20-minute Del Rio vs. Johnny Mundo main event that ended in the babyface winning clean. It's okay to have screwy finishes when you need them if you also give a great match to close the show.
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Swagger thinks they're dead tooJack Swagger on Wrestling Inc's podcast posted:In 2018 I was very optimistic about it [returning], but I haven't heard anything since we wrapped in April. It's very cool when it comes around, but sitting around and waiting for it isn't very cool especially when it's just crickets and no one knows.
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Who's even left anyway? The AAA guys (and Cuerno is no longer AAA so....). It's like all AAA plus Famous B
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Impressed by Joey not taking the layup chance to burn the bridgeJoey Ryan on a TNA media call posted:I feel like for me to be completely free of any contracts and open to negotiate with anybody, there's now no Lucha Underground step that anybody has to take to get me. They can come directly to me and I can negotiate with anybody. There's no restriction. Not only does it open more options for me to go to, but the places I do want to go to now maybe have to dig a little deeper in their pocketbooks because I can literally show up to anywhere at any time.
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Chris James 2 posted:Impressed by Joey not taking the layup chance to burn the bridge That's a fella who understands the big (penis) picture.
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Jeff Cobb, Famous B, and Sonny Kiss. Willie Mack might soon too https://twitter.com/WrestlingSheet/status/1122961323556593664
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Cobb? Does that mean by actually working for ROH he's basically daring LU to try and sue Sinclair?
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LuchaCentral said LU's recently tried to say he's still under contract to them and they have tried to block him from appearing in ROH They threatened to send a cease-and-desist to ROH and NWA for Willie Mack too, it's why Mack just dropped the NWA's National title A lot of work to do. You know. For a company that still says they're ever going to tape again, just not where or when or with whom and also don't keep asking about when they're going to tape again please
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https://luchacentral.com/lucha-central-exclusive-agreement-reached-for-jeff-cobbs-release-from-lucha-underground/ LuchaCentral update says an agreement's been reached that Cobb will be released from his LU deal soon. "Sources tell Lucha Central that once Cobb’s release is official, the releases for Famous B and Sonny Kiss will be asked for as well, though there is no change to their situation at this moment."
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Not with a bang. Not with a whimper. But with...... Jack Swagger as your lucha libre show champion? 
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Clearly all a shoot so season 5 is the cast escaping the temple
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Clearly all a shoot so season 5 is the cast escaping the temple Legends of the Lucha Temple
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Legends of the Lucha Temple I mean, I'm sure Luis Fernandez-Gil would do a great job as Olmec.
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karmicknight posted:I mean, I'm sure Luis Fernandez-Gil would do a great job as Olmec. The Shrine of the Spot Monkey
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I got an exclusive scoop for the main event of Ultima Lucha Cinco: All Contracts On A Pole Match. The first 5 wrestlers who can reach their specific signed contract are granted an immediate release. Everyone else has to stay and vaguely promise future seasons we all know aren't happening. My sources tell me this match will happen in, oh, well, you know how it is, gotta get the money and timing right. He assured me it's definitely happening though, and by gosh we gotta take them at their word.
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...So. This is a new one https://twitter.com/RealSamAdonis/status/1125206631581736960 Marty the Moth is defending the LU title at an indy show against Corey Graves' brother Sam Adonis Despite the facts Marty won the belt in last March (aired Sept), it changed hands two different times at the end of those tapings, the show's been dead since, and the real champ is busy with MMA with a fight this week
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Sam Adonis's only redeeming quality is he isn't as much of a steaming pile of stupid as his brother. Which this makes me wonder, how did Marty end up with physical possession of the belt?
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coconono posted:Sam Adonis's only redeeming quality is he isn't as much of a steaming pile of stupid as his brother. Cheap replica? Or Jack gave it to him because he no longer cares?
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coconono posted:Sam Adonis's only redeeming quality is he isn't as much of a steaming pile of stupid as his brother. Didn't he get booed out of England for shouting homophobic slurs or was that a different guy
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coconono posted:Sam Adonis's only redeeming quality is he isn't as much of a steaming pile of stupid as his brother. He wasn't as bad in Champion Carnival as I expected. Certainly wasn't the least interesting wrestler in it. Everything was okay to fine, nothing at all memorable but at least he wasn't Valletta or Hashimoto.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Cheap replica? Or Jack gave it to him because he no longer cares? Considering his first Bellator match got a better reaction and review than his entire LU stint, the latter is probably a safe bet.
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