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Missingnoleader posted:I really enjoyed this movie. The twist really did get me i was expecting this too, which is very Watchmen. Funnily, the first "oh this reminds me of..." moment I had was at the beginning when Helen and Bob were arguing about whether breaking a just or unjust law to save people is right, because Holly Hunter talking about government regulation and superheroes triggers my Beavis senses. Also Void looked distractingly like Mackenzie Davis.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 05:59 |
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 21:55 |
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Other things to note: Smart: developing the relationship between Evelyn and Helen by having them commiserate about being women who are often less appreciated than the men they work with but not at any point making that incredibly obvious with some sort of "GIRL POWER, Y'ALL" dialogue. The friendship between the two was really cool until the obvious. Less Smart: literally naming the villain Evil Endeavor Also Smart: Multiple times we saw characters who told the heroes how much they meant to them and it was very obvious that it was a "being able to see someone who looks like me as a superhero and not just some lame white guy is important," again without explicitly saying it. It's a very strong statement about how much representation matters, and Mr. Incredible being a whiny little bitch about it after they come out and say "Elastigirl is gonna get us better publicity" mirrors white guys being whiny little bitches whenever a movie starring a black person/woman comes out. (also it was cool seeing that Usher was the voice of the guy who geeked out over meeting Frozone. Something I'm still turning over in my head: The movie clearly thinks it has something to say about the culture's obsession with the media and the idea of a villain using screens to take advantage of people seems kinda incongruous with the very 1950s setting, but also since Evelyn ginned up the villain just to get Elastigirl to do what she wanted I can't decide if Bird really does have a bone to pick with Screengrabber's agenda or he thinks the whole thing is a false narrative. More turning over in my head stuff: Is the movie's "you shouldn't follow unjust laws" message a really explicitly anti-Trump message? Things I was the only person in the theater to laugh at: "the public has more trust in a monkey throwing darts than congress," Mr. Incredible stopping just short of saying "you're a credit to your gender" to his wife. Also a thing: after the trailer for Teen Titans Go! to the Movies, my mom (who doesn't watch many movies, and in theaters pretty much only watches Disney/Pixar movies) turned to me and asked me "and people are actually going to watch that in theaters?"
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2018 06:23 |
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f#a# posted:Between the dropped motifs of "make supers legal again" and police body cameras, I got the distinct impression that the final draft of the script was written in mid-2016, and it shows. Don't get me wrong, the movie was great and any sequence with the Portal super--Voyd---was an incredible, but the politics and muddled ethics of the villian were pretty tenuous. I don't really see the similarities between police cameras and the superhero ones in this movie. The idea behind police cameras is that they would exist as a measure to protect people because if they're being watched they won't do scumbag poo poo. In the movie, the camera functions to make superheroes look better by showing exactly how much good they do. It's the same idea taken to the two opposite ends, one meant for public consumption to help the camera wearers because they do more good than the public sees, and the other meant to help the people the camera wearers interact with because they do more bad than the public sees.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2018 07:20 |
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Erotic Wakes posted:I think you're projecting a whole lot. Independent of Bird's own actions going out of his way to hire "black sheep" who were otherwise rejected for being too unconventional a big part of his movies is about old people who are more entrenched in success and the establishment going out of their way to enable and learn from younger people with new ideas instead of becoming set in their old ways. The entire climax of Ratatouille is about how critics and other gatekeepers have a responsibility to uplift and support the new and the entire thesis of Tomorrowland was that Galt's Gulch was doomed to failure in part because its inherently conservaitve worldview would exclude the next generation of creators while also leaving them and the world they inherited much worse off by denying them ability to learn from and be nurtured by their predecessors. yeah i think if you watch Tomorrowland you will disabuse yourself of any thoughts that Bird might be a Randian. He certainly believes in the inherent superiority of some people over others, and is a big fan of Walt Disney (and probably shares more than a few of his opinions about the duty of great men), but he also believes in creating for people and that said great people should use their greatness for others. (see also: Snyder, Zack)
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