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We don't have a general CC-shooting-the-poo poo chat thread, and I figured I'd remedy that. Last year I was doing an art foundation (pre-university course designed to make up for the horrible state of art education in schools), and the thing I found most valuable was sharing a workspace with a bunch of creative-nerds of wildly different specialisations and just talking stuff over. You talk to a designer about your ideas, and you're going to get wildly different thoughts than you will talking to a poet or sculptor, and it ended being an incredibly valuable resource to me. I miss it, and it's something I've been struggling to find since. So what's everyone working on at the moment? My current thing is super-short-form comics, 8xA7 (~11x8cm) pages, doing a new one each month. The idea behind it is because I'm new at comics, I figure the first bunch I make will all be poo poo, so I might as well start over monthly so I can use the lessons I learn. The specific format is because that can be folded from an A4 sheet, so I print them at home and leave them scattered about the place. Plus it's just cool to be able to make the thing from start to finish and hold it in my hands.
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Sitting Here posted:Like shooting poo poo in a barrel Good call, I hadn't thought of that! Is your AI self-improving ? I can imagine weird poo poo with a relationship when one person is growing smarter by the second. It'd be a bastard to write though. Writing is awesome, the cleanup time makes up for any sins.
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Jun 19, 2018 02:06
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Yeah, I know that feeling, I'm scanning a load of old sketchbooks at the moment, and I keep being like "what the christ was this". Turns out turning sketchbooks into .cbr (comic reader files, made by renaming .rar archives) files works really well, it's dull work but it's freeing up so much space. Or at least it will, when I can bring myself to chuck the hardcopy, it feels kinda sacrilegious.
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Jun 19, 2018 07:20
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They don't need taste, that's what they pay you to have! 
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Jun 19, 2018 17:31
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As in stage magic, nothing up my sleeves? That's rad, how do you go about making one? I'd have no idea how you'd even start.
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Jun 19, 2018 19:50
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This is glorious. I'm not entirely sure I can grasp the sutble symbolism, though.   He's trying to say something here, and I can't quite grasp it... e: Also I just noticed the trodden-on snake under trump's foot, that is a surprise. Or maybe it's his tail. Or, going by facial expression, he's crapped himself again and it's run out his trouser leg. lofi fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Jun 22, 2018 |
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Jun 22, 2018 16:22
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Well LUCKY YOU ASKED:quote:
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Jun 22, 2018 16:33
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I'm a sucker for my Lamy fountain pen with Carbon Black ink, it's so smooth and pleasant to draw with. But really, what pen you want is going to depend on the effect you're after. I can't stand dip pens, too much hassle and they constantly need dipping or blotting or cleaning. I'm working on getting used to using a brush, but it takes time.
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Jun 23, 2018 09:36
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Fortis posted:If you’re going to be doing art on a tablet in Windows and want super smooth lines then I highly recommend Lazy Nezumi.  Thanks, definitely giving that a try!
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Doctor Dogballs posted:Although I like writing with a fountain pen I wouldn't really recommend one for art. They are hundreds to thousands of times more expensive than dip pens and you're pretty much stuck with the nib that's on it. Whereas even very good quality nibs and nib holders are cheaper than ink. Also with a fountain pen the ink is very watery, a lot more likely to smear, and will likely not survive interaction with other media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwAfsZTi6A  Different inks do different things! Good ink can be waterproof and nicely thick. Mine is lubricated, for extra innuendo. You can also get flex-nib fountain pens, though they suffer from the same scratchiness as dip-pens. lofi fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 26, 2018 |
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Jun 26, 2018 21:30
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For me it's the voice going "Sure you can draw a bit, but you have nothing to say with your art, and no-one's interested anyway, you might as well just draw naruto fanart on deviant art" in my head. Then I drink, and numb the voice a little bit. 
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Jun 29, 2018 00:49
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Nice, and much the same line of thinking that pulls me out of despair. I try to remember that we're monkeys-in-top-hats stuck to a giant ball-bearing that's screaming through space round a perpetual nuke - when you think of it like that, doing anything more than clinging to the ground and screaming seems like a pretty good acheivement.
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I got rejected from art school about a decade ago - art-wise, it was the best thing to happen to me, I was like 'right, I'll show those chucklefucks' and really stepped my game up. Still sucked rear end though. It might be worth writing to them to find out what they didn't like, so at least you can get some feedback out of it.
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Jun 29, 2018 23:52
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Keep the lemons on your desk, and fuel yourself with bitterness.
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My friends who went off to art-school have finished for the year, and come back home, so I've been hanging out in pub gardens in the sun chatting art with them all week, it's reminded me how much I loving love art.  So stoked for drawing at the moment.As a counterpoint to the art-despair chat, what does art-enlightenment feel like to y'all? To me there's a groove I can sometimes hit, where I have a load of parts of a project on the go, and I'm bouncing between them, spinning a bunch of plates with the lightest touch, and it feels like I'm flying somehow, or surfing a wave, no effort needed. Also, I'm considering a master's in sequential next year. I love the idea of being a Master of Comics.
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Jul 1, 2018 02:18
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Ah, a tumblr poster, I see.
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Jul 1, 2018 03:59
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Music when I'm developing ideas (what exactly I listen to has to match the project), podcasts or audiobooks when I'm rendering/doing grunt work.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:57
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I'm gonna make spiked armour for twinks.
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Jul 3, 2018 10:16
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Shhh, you've got to keep the myth going - it wearing down is why there's so much competition and no-one can make a living off art.
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Sharpest Crayon posted:I'm gonna start charging for my art on the pain scale depending on how much of a pain in the rear end they were to make. Sort of a sliding wail? 
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I had a complete breakdown, ended up housebound for a fair while. I'd always wanted to be able to draw, so I figured I'd put my time to some use. Art has got me through some really rough times, it's one of the reasons I love it so much.
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Jul 7, 2018 10:15
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You guys all know about Man After Man, right?
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Jul 8, 2018 23:52
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Navelgaze
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Jul 9, 2018 11:23
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Christ yes, I know that one. I know I can draw pretty good, but having the confidence to charge that way is different thing, and yeah, worrying about pricing yourself out a job is a nightmare. Maybe it just comes with experience?
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Jul 9, 2018 18:03
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Seems about right.
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Jul 9, 2018 18:33
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Draw in a larger format than the final piece - working in two-up and shrinking it down hides a lot of sins. Brushes are a pain to get used to, but I think they're worth it.
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Jul 10, 2018 09:36
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Are we talking ponies and hedgehogs, animal morphs, or poetry?
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Jul 11, 2018 15:20
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^ pro tip.
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Question is, whatya gonna do with them once you're done? Could you make that part of the exhibit?Al! posted:how contemporary does it need to be because paul mccarthy's painter is one of my favorite pieces of any art ever Ugh, I'd forgotten about that! It repels me in a way I can't put my finger on. I mean, I guess it's meant to, I won't argue for a second that it's not effective. It makes me think of Don't Huge Me I'm Scared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C_HReR_McQ But creepier. lofi fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jul 21, 2018 |
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Fortis posted:
It's not just you. Hell, there's a reason the comics thread has the title it does. I'm going to go against common wisdom and say gently caress fan art, the thing that keeps me going is that I'm telling stories I want to tell, and for me atm doing fan art would kill that really fast. I need to feel like I'm doing my art for me first of all, or I'll end up drawing naruto slash art right up till I off myself. Of course, my stuff isn't exactly selling like hotcakes, so read into that what you will. 
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Al! posted:does anyone here have a patreon? some folks have expressed interest in me doing one but a.) it feels kind of scummy and b.) i wouldn't even know where to start putting one together. what am i supposed to do with this? Ohgod I'm so glad to hear other people feel the same way! I have one, with a grand total of three (3) patrons, one of which is my mum and I earn $15 a month from it. Even that feels like I'm begging, not helped by a friend referring to it as 'hipster welfare' on my launch post. Every time I release a comic I daintily mention that maybe it exists if no-one's too busy they might like to look at it, and I feel like I'm ramming it down people's throats.I'm realising slowly that a big part of being a Real Artist is learning how to self-promote and actually say 'hey my stuff is good, you should give me money for it'. I've not got much further than spotting that yet, still waiting in my basement for people to notice/commission my genius at the moment. I'm going to an actual zine fair this weekend to at least dip my toes into Selling My Art. It's in a bar, it might end badly. e: Al! posted:that owns and dead cells is probably one of the best games ever made (and it's not even done). I really hope that article isn't just a puff piece - gaming journalism isn't exactly reliable, but as a partner of a programmer I want to believe this can happen.
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Yes! I love them. I've got a load of small pans magnetised to the bottom of my pencil case, so I can carry them everywhere. I'd recommend getting some drawing gum if you do a lot of work like the one you posted, it'd make your life a ton easier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px8gpl4zLGw
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I use blender[/blender] (freeware) and [url="http://terawell.net/terawell/"]design doll (limited free version). Mostly blender, it lets me make mockups like this: High quality, huh? The main reason I use blender is that are a billion good tutes on youtube, and it's free. It's really good for lighting stuff in specific ways, and way more powerful than I need. The biggest downside is complexity (like photoshop but with another dimension!) and also it's really easy to get sucked into refining the model and accidentally spending a night making a far more detailed model than you intended.  Design doll I've only just got hold of, not used much, but it seems good for weird angled people:  Other things people use are Google Sketchup (free), and you can do a surprising amount by just folding some paper and making blu-tac blobs for characters, using a camera. e: Just saw the luddite comment. I'd probably start with sketchup, mainly cos it's what was introduced on my art foundation where they assumed zero computer skill, so I assume it's fairly intuitive (I pulled a sicky that day, so can't speak from experience).
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veni veni veni posted:Thanks! Yeah I went for blender and I’ve found some good tutorials for it already and I’ve been able to go from “what am I looking at here?” to feeling like I have some sort of idea of what’s going on, at least in regards to the interface. I still don’t really know how to do anything it haha. Maybe probably? They're similar enough in function that I don't think you'd really need to, though I believe blender is much more flexible. Discussion here says yes, you can. I might have to check out sketchup more seriously myself, actually.
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I'd simplify it a bit from 'just observe stuff' at first - start with something simple and isolated, and re-paint it with different lighting setups. There's a reason for all those bowls of fruit people used to paint!
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Timecubism?
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Aug 13, 2018 20:47
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What do you mean by interpretive centre? An info-kiosk sorta thing?
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e: Oh, so that's how people double-post. Huh, I'd always wondered.
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My advice would be to get some practice drawing (and shading) from life - grab something out the fridge, fruit and veg are ideal, and draw it. Maybe do the same thing in different lighting to see how that effects it (what colour does an apple go in a streetlight?). It might not be what you want to draw 'for real', but it'll help you get a feel for how shadows work in real life on a relatively simple shape, and then you can apply that to the stuff you actually care about. And yeah, art is hard. But it's really cool too! The self-taught thread should have some good info, and could do with ressurecting!
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I enjoyed you bug story. 
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