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So recently my partner has gotten back into the ol' cam business. She makes pretty good money already off her shows on Chaturbate (enough to do it fulltime), but it is a very amateur endeavour. We have no website or clips for sale and no real skills or abilities other than our complete lack of shame coupled with exhibitionist tendencies. We have read through all the related camgirl sites but I figured there are few as well versed in perversion as those I can find here. Joke posts are tepidly appreciated, but actual answers about increasing cashflow would be best.
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I'd say #1 she has to be hot?
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Jun 19, 2018 19:01
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Get her to play video games with her clothes on, she'll make more money that way
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Jun 19, 2018 19:25
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Gotta do butt stuff if you wanna get paid the big bucks.
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Jun 20, 2018 00:11
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Is she running multiple streams at the same time? 1 session can feed to multiple cam sites. More streams, more eyes, more profit. I'll take 5% for the next 6 months. thanks.
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Jun 20, 2018 00:16
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You need to keep your face OUT of the stream. No offense
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Jun 20, 2018 00:21
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Why would you ask this question of mostly middle-aged goons here, on a dying middle-aged comedy website, headed by a crumbling middle-aged comedy website writer, who is also dying? Anyway yeah LP on Twitch and/or offer subs to an offsite channel to nude LPing. Or offer $25 handjobs down at the nearest Dave & Buster's parking lot ($40 for a two-fister). This isn't a joke post because none of my posts are funny.
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Jun 20, 2018 03:33
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Neophyte posted:Why would you ask this question of mostly middle-aged goons here, on a dying middle-aged comedy website, headed by a crumbling middle-aged comedy website writer, who is also dying? Who do you think has the most disposable income to spend on Cam girls?
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Jun 20, 2018 03:41
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Burt Sexual posted:You need to keep your face OUT of the stream. No offense yep. clean up your stuff too - thinking video game stuff, funko pops, cumsocks, etc
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Jun 20, 2018 05:21
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I suspect that some of the top models are fronts for money laundering operations who put on a scripted show for an API driven botnet. You could do that.
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Jun 21, 2018 07:35
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Burt Sexual posted:Who do you think has the most disposable income to spend on Cam girls? So what you're saying is that, to save himself and SA, Lowtax needs to become a camgirl. Nice.
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Jun 21, 2018 08:20
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I never paid for a camgirl so this is general sort of advice that would apply to any performing art. Be good at what you do. Have energy, talent. Build a fanbase by doing something different, or the same thing better than anyone else.
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Jun 22, 2018 00:25
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Now I'll never get the mental image of camgirl Lowtax out of my head.
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Jun 22, 2018 02:05
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How much we doing now op? I need a thermometer
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Jun 22, 2018 02:41
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3567138&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 The OP was a cam girl part time, and talks about how she set stuff up for doing camming, as well as stripping. The big investment in sex work is usually advertising; it draws in new clients and therefore, new $$$. Regulars often dwindle and you always want new people, as they can become regulars. It's hard to find a lot of advertisement sites right now, since backpage shut down; even the alternatives, such as bedpage, onebackpage, or backpage.ly have gotten rid of credit card payments and only want walmart giftcards (I dunno why) or bitcoin. Yes,: Camming is legal.The US doesn't really give a gently caress and lumps all sex work under prositution or sexual exploitation, which then affects where you can advertise, and most websites attempt to follow the US model (that I have seen). Honestly, it doesn't matter how basic your set up is, so long as you get people to see it and subscribe. Those websites and helpfuls and how-tos will point you towards advertising towards a niche market: Basically, not everyone wants the same thing, so don't bother pandering yourself and spreading yourself thin. For example, your girlfriend can't cam and claim to be barely legal and later claim to be a gilf. I'm honestly not sure what advice SA can give other than the old threads, since I would assume a huge site like chaturbate would be able to have a FAQ for newbies, along with other camgirl sites. Clips are profitable. Selling used items (panties, vibes) are profitable when sold correctly (return address same as sender's address, certified mail). Photos are profitable. Improvements on equipment (upgrading cameras, for example), are profitable. Ads bring in the most new credit, though. Advertise. Be seen.
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Jun 24, 2018 08:11
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Be careful using Paypal or most banks. They can and will shut your account down on a whim and just keep all your money if they find out somehow that your money came from porn.
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Jun 25, 2018 08:28
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disjoe posted:Get her to play video games with her clothes on, she'll make more money that way Yup. Otherwise travel back in time 15 years. Free content saturation is a thing, even Larry Flynt is upfront about not being able to make money in porn anymore. So you're looking for really niche fetishes, or finding something else to capitalize on.
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Jun 26, 2018 19:52
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ElectronicOldMen posted:So recently my partner has gotten back into the ol' cam business. Highest donation? And to do what?
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Jun 26, 2018 20:57
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Start findomming instead! 
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Jul 3, 2018 11:45
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By popular demand posted:Now I'll never get the mental image of camgirl Lowtax out of my head. 
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Jul 3, 2018 22:02
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Rich will be so confused when he discovers this thread.
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Jul 3, 2018 22:13
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My wife has been a camgirl for about 5 years now, across many different sites so I can try to give some pointers though the camgirl thread already linked to earlier probably has a lot more and diverse information. Many sites will give new girls special placement for a few days or even weeks after they first sign up. Take full advantage of that time, as future placement is often dictated by time in shows, earnings per hour, and/or video quality. Invest in a good HD webcam and a fast internet connection. It's best to connect the PC directly to the router as opposed to Wi-Fi. This will improve video quality, which will lead to higher placement. Make sure her work area is, at a minimum, clean and tidy. Having organized toys visible in the background helps. Affiliate links are great things. They will give her more money for the shows she does with customers who sign up through it, but it will also give her a portion of the money they spend on other girls. Use the affiliate link when sending content to promoters, and on her own page. Start plugging the link right away -- getting ~20% of the money a customer spends with another girl adds up quick. Twitter is good for free promotion. She can build a following and network with promoters and other camgirls. Promoters with thousands of followers generally only ask for photos and short video clips, no nudity required, holding up a sign with their name. Plug the link. There is a good chance some of her private shows will end up on tube sites. Preempt that by creating an account on those with shorter shows and, you guessed it, include the affiliate link. Search the sites for her performer name too and if you find an unauthorized video, either contact the site to take it down or, preferably, plug the affiliate link. There are lots of hot girls who are willing to get naked and dildo themselves online, but there are fewer who specialize in things like BDSM, roleplaying, foot fetish, or are just open to indulging certain kinks (some of which can skirt the edges of the ToS, so be careful - a performer who can't perform on a site because she's probated or even banned isn't going to make any money. Learn what's acceptable - daddy daughter roleplay might be A-ok, but ageplay might be bannable). Personality also plays a big part in being an entertaining performer, so an average looking girl who can keep customers in her room tipping and getting shows can often do better than a knockout who looks bored the entire time. A knockout who can keep customers engaged can do even better. The best times to go on and rates to set vary across sites and for type of performer. Before signing up as a performer with a certain site, do some research and see when similar performers seem to have people in their rooms/doing shows and when they look bored. Setting a fairly regular schedule will be good, particularly for getting regulars. Don't neglect the inbox, as it can turn fans into regulars pretty fast. For performers that seem to be in shows frequently, take a look at their rates and use that as a basis. Placing a "menu" in the show description with tip amounts for select acts that can be performed in public chat can encourage both tipping and being taken into private shows. ALWAYS get tipped before doing anything. Good luck!
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Jul 3, 2018 23:32
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Be a twink and get a sugar daddy. Way better
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Jul 5, 2018 05:34
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Tired Moritz posted:Be a twink and get a sugar daddy. Way better Yeah, don't wanna discourage you OP but you really missed the boat on making bank as a camgirl. The real money these days is having scrawny, nerdy boys getting railed by big, burly men, so that's where I'd start looking. If you must include your partner, pegging looks set to be a big growth area so maybe you can catch that wave?
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Jul 5, 2018 14:45
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If you would have told me 15 years ago that naked girls playing video games are gonna have a more profitable market than those who perform sexual acts, I would've probly believed you.
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Jul 5, 2018 15:53
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what is the market like for camboys
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Jul 6, 2018 00:01
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Depends, are you into butt stuff?
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Jul 6, 2018 16:38
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disjoe posted:Get her to play video games with her clothes on, she'll make more money that way
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Jul 8, 2018 04:45
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By popular demand posted:Depends, are you into butt stuff? yes
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Jul 9, 2018 03:06
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Is it against the ToA of sites to have a kinda cross synergy between a "have clothes on and stream vidya" side and a camgirl side? Seems like that's the sort of content/viewer pipeline you'd wanna set up to really rake in the cash.
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do you mean like, concurrently? or 'from 6-8 i play fortnite' and 'from 8-12 i get naked on mfc'? if you mean the former, twitch doesn't allow monetized streamers to simulcast their broadcasts elsewhere (or to reproduce it anywhere for 24 hours). if it's the latter, most monetization contracts in twitch vary slightly but you're free to do what you'd like off-twitch. i've never cam-guyed, or whatever the male equivalent is, but i do stream on twitch sometimes and i was a stripper for like two years non-consecutively. the general timeframe to have made a shitload of money camming has probably passed, but it's still easily profitable considering it costs almost next to no money to do. there's a sliding scale between 'doing niche stuff and attracting less but more dedicated viewers' and 'making more general content and dealing with fickle viewership' and you should probably decide which side you want to fall on. if you're a guy and you're going to be involved in your partners camming, you should either reconsider a; appearing in them at all or b; making sure very little besides your penis appears. camming is a lot like stripping in that you're trying to sell a fantasy - a dude being involved is disruptive to the fantasy. you'll run into some people who are cerebral about what they're watching and realize the camgirl isn't literally doing all this poo poo for the viewer individually, but a lot of people who consume more individualized sex performances (stripping and camming compared to overt recorded pornography) want to feel like the person on the other end is doing what they're doing for them specifically (and, related, will pay pretty well for content that caters to this fantasy). if you don't specifically have like, enterprise level internet (or fiber optic, which handles uploads much better than most other internet options), you'll have the internet to broadcast around 1080p30 (30 frames per second of 1080p resolution) or 720p60 (60 frames per second of 720p resolution). i haven't done the math in a while, but either of these require around 2-4 mb/s upload. if you don't have that (or aren't streaming your video at one of those qualities), you should strongly attempt to do so, favoring higher frames per second (ime, higher frames per second looks much better than choppy, high-resolution video). i don't remember the model but i have a logitech webcam that captures 1080p60 that was pretty cheap. hell, i'm sure most phones can nowadays. less about camming and more about online content in general, advertising is important, as is networking. the reason a lot of people don't wind up being watched is because people don't know the content is even there. the more people who say your wife's handle, the better. i'm sure the environment around it is different on chaturbate, but you want to make as many people aware that your channel exists as imaginable, with the exception you probably don't want to plug to people you actually personally know. if you want to talk about cashflow, you're pretty limited in ways to meaningfully make it if you're doing sex work. very few people will want to buy merch from their favorite camgirl or whatever, so you're probably just looking at selling individualized performances or whatever off-site (i actually made pretty good money doing this as a stripper, so it's something work looking into). i'm not sure how patreon feels about literal sex workers, but a lot of the sexually suggestive twitch streamers make a lot of their money on patreon 'selling' lewd photos. again, i don't know how patreon feels about honest-to-god sex workers compared to people who at least kind of hide their intentions, but it's also something worth looking at.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:i've never cam-guyed, or whatever the male equivalent is, but i do stream on twitch sometimes and i was a stripper for like two years non-consecutively. the general timeframe to have made a shitload of money camming has probably passed, but it's still easily profitable considering it costs almost next to no money to do. A 50S RAYGUN posted:if you want to talk about cashflow, you're pretty limited in ways to meaningfully make it if you're doing sex work. very few people will want to buy merch from their favorite camgirl or whatever, so you're probably just looking at selling individualized performances or whatever off-site (i actually made pretty good money doing this as a stripper, so it's something work looking into). i'm not sure how patreon feels about literal sex workers, but a lot of the sexually suggestive twitch streamers make a lot of their money on patreon 'selling' lewd photos. again, i don't know how patreon feels about honest-to-god sex workers compared to people who at least kind of hide their intentions, but it's also something worth looking at.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Why is this true? I get that there's more saturation of workers but I assumed as most regular porn becomes free on tube sites, consumers would spend their porn money on personalized/interactive camgirls instead. Besides higher saturation, average rates and the payout percentages for performers have generally been greatly reduced. Five years ago, the missus was taking in 65% of her total earnings on a certain site. They then lowered it to 50%, claiming that this would be offset by their investment in marketing and getting additional traffic. Then they sold to one of the very large sites, where the standard payout is now 35%. In that same time span, she gradually went from charging $9 a minute for private shows to $4 because of the competition.
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I Demand Food posted:Besides higher saturation, average rates and the payout percentages for performers have generally been greatly reduced. Five years ago, the missus was taking in 65% of her total earnings on a certain site. They then lowered it to 50%, claiming that this would be offset by their investment in marketing and getting additional traffic. Then they sold to one of the very large sites, where the standard payout is now 35%. In that same time span, she gradually went from charging $9 a minute for private shows to $4 because of the competition. 4 a minute? How long does a guy hang around? LIke an hour? LMAO
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Jul 12, 2018 20:22
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Burt Sexual posted:4 a minute? How long does a guy hang around? LIke an hour? LMAO Private shows probably average 10-15 minutes each.
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Jul 12, 2018 20:55
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Yeah I was talking 4-8 PubG 8-12 triple penetration. Would've thought that there would be soft blocks from Amazon given they wouldn't necessarily want some advertisements leading straight into hardcore stuff.
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Burt Sexual posted:4 a minute? How long does a guy hang around? LIke an hour? LMAO However long it takes them to blow their load
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I Demand Food posted:Besides higher saturation, average rates and the payout percentages for performers have generally been greatly reduced. Five years ago, the missus was taking in 65% of her total earnings on a certain site. They then lowered it to 50%, claiming that this would be offset by their investment in marketing and getting additional traffic. Then they sold to one of the very large sites, where the standard payout is now 35%. In that same time span, she gradually went from charging $9 a minute for private shows to $4 because of the competition. This sounds insane and lovely for camgirls. I still didn't believe it though so I checked out Twitch's IRL channel. There's a bunch of moderately attractive ladies who are making bank. One person was literally just talking with the chat room while getting ready to go out. She had multiple $1,000k tips on her board... I'm not sure if that's daily or weekly or what but holy poo poo. Ladies can make more on twitch doing nothing than camgirls working their hearts out apparently.
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Eventually someone will find a way to combine intercourse and playing video games at the same time and bankrupt the entire internet. I refuse to check if this already happend.
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By popular demand posted:Eventually someone will find a way to combine intercourse and playing video games at the same time and bankrupt the entire internet. And eating. George Costanza of the modern day 
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