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Jun 26, 2018 13:21
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I'm not a jailer, I just thought the certainty of this post was presumptuous.Monathin posted:So quick note, either there's also a scum roleblocker or a 3p Amnesiac picked up AA's role. There are other reasons an action can fail/be blocked than the two listed. Target hiding also an option.
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Jun 26, 2018 13:57
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CCKeane posted:So Asiina when are you going to claim jailer and hope everybody goes "oooo power role", ignoring that we had a town roleblocker? Where did jailer even come from? Mona didn't say he was jailed, he said he was roleblocked. I'm pretty sure there's a difference (ex you were role blocked vs your action failed because you were jailed, or something like that)
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Jun 26, 2018 14:04
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b-minus1 posted:Where did jailer even come from? Mona didn't say he was jailed, he said he was roleblocked. I'm pretty sure there's a difference (ex you were role blocked vs your action failed because you were jailed, or something like that) Not always. A lot of the time it's just "your action failed."
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Jun 26, 2018 14:06
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Dick Bastardly posted:like your merk case 
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Jun 26, 2018 14:08
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yeah those are some strangely specific causes for an action failing, monathin
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Jun 26, 2018 14:10
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Hal Incandenza posted:why are people voting Asiina stop voting for her I think asiina is likely scum for the following reasons: 1. Early game lurking 2. Bc I think Keane is scum and her interactions with Keane are scummy 3. What I already said about her town read on AA I think Keane is scum for the following reasons: 1. Faaaaaaaaaart
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Jun 26, 2018 14:30
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think asiina is likely scum for the following reasons: You mean when the game was in half-jokephase with people throwing down real votes for joke reasons for the majority of D1? Also you think Keane is scum therefore you're voting me, who is not only voting Keane but is trying to thunderdome him. And I had a town read on someone who ended up town. Very good casework, well done.
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Jun 26, 2018 14:49
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I'm actually not voting anyone right at this moment. But yes I think your interactions with Keane are scummy
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Jun 26, 2018 15:05
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Fair, but what interactions are those? Voting for him two days in a row? Trying to make a thunderdome between the two of us? Don't just say "interactions" be specific.
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Jun 26, 2018 15:10
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Asiina posted:
pointing out that this ain't a defense of poo poo
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Jun 26, 2018 15:17
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It may not make me town, but she is using it specifically as a reason I am scum.
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Jun 26, 2018 15:28
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Keane, you assuming that Asiina is a Jailer and that a Jailer is scum because we have a flipped Town RB seems... below your level of skill as a town player. What gives, buddy? ##unvote
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Jun 26, 2018 15:50
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CCKeane posted:So Asiina when are you going to claim jailer and hope everybody goes "oooo power role", ignoring that we had a town roleblocker? ##vote Keane You're far far better than this post as town.
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Jun 26, 2018 16:14
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Yeah, man, it's Keane. Sorry, Asiina.
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Jun 26, 2018 16:24
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CCKeane posted:She wants to thunderdome a player confirmed as town by night actions (I read my PM in the evening). Oh really!
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Jun 26, 2018 16:24
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Asiina posted:Not always. I've been playing too much town of salem, I guess haha. Still would like mona to clarify this if possible. Either way, keane looks pretty bad here. ##vote keane AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think asiina is likely scum for the following reasons: wow not a huge fan of this post
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Jun 26, 2018 16:26
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b-minus1 posted:I've been playing too much town of salem, I guess haha. I don't agree with the Asiina part (especially the interactions with Keane bit, none of that seems like a bus to me) but why don't YOU like it?
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Jun 26, 2018 16:31
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Asiina requesting a thunderdome seemed like a great way to bus and establish town cred if Keane flips scum
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Jun 26, 2018 16:35
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Asiina requesting a thunderdome seemed like a great way to bus and establish town cred if Keane flips scum I just don't see two scum going that hard at each other D2 to the exclusion of all else when neither was in THAT much danger.
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Jun 26, 2018 16:42
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Hal Incandenza posted:I just don't see two scum going that hard at each other D2 to the exclusion of all else when neither was in THAT much danger. But really my questions was more for b-minus, I think you are more wrong than scummy in that post
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Jun 26, 2018 16:43
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Hal Incandenza posted:But really my questions was more for b-minus, I think you are more wrong than scummy in that post agree: he isn't wrong in that it would be a major, strong bus but i just don't see that bus happening at this point
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Jun 26, 2018 16:56
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Asiina posted:You mean when the game was in half-jokephase with people throwing down real votes for joke reasons for the majority of D1? Keane hasn't stopped joking in case you haven't noticed.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:03
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Asiina requesting a thunderdome seemed like a great way to bus and establish town cred if Keane flips scum If Keane flips scum, I'm instantly voting you and not looking back. You're already posturing for it.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:06
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Ooh I'm so scared. You've been after me from day 1.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:27
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merk posted:If Keane flips scum, I'm instantly voting you and not looking back. You're already posturing for it. this feels like a way of abdicating responsibility for actually playing d3
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Jun 26, 2018 17:39
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also chaining unflipped posters is butt
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Jun 26, 2018 17:40
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I mean me personally, I’m voting for Asiina on account of I think she’s scum.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:41
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DB is also scum. Not sure about moat, kind of cooled on him
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Jun 26, 2018 17:41
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merk posted:##vote Asiina merk posted:This vote had no chance to see a lynch. It wasn’t persuasive at all. This is Asiina setting up for the next day while talking negatively about a lynch she knows is on town. I take issue with these two posts. The first post because it presents a thing as if it's just obvious to everyone, the second primarily because of the bolded part. Not only was Keane an absolutely possible lynch, but we all know that persuasion matters little in D1 in these games. Goons can get caught up on the most arbitrary of "suspect" factoids or "scumslips" and then start a snowball that just keeps rolling, and merk knows this (or really should know this). ##vote merk for now. This might change as I continue reading.
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Jun 26, 2018 17:48
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CCKeane posted:She wants to thunderdome a player confirmed as town by night actions (I read my PM in the evening). Wait this seems important. I'm rather troubled by this. On the one hand I don't trust either Keane or merk, but on the other hand it seems pretty courageous for them to be in such lock-step if they're indeed both scum. I'm tempted to unvote, but if we are to lynch either of them for information, I'd obviously rather do merk who hasn't yet claimed a power role. Then again, there's the obvious wifom if merk flips town (or Keane flips scum for that matter).
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Jun 26, 2018 17:55
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merk posted:##vote Keane Here the lock-step breaks... Is it town merk genuinely scum-hunting, or is it scum merk noticing that the two of them are getting too close to each other and bussing his scum-bud? Either of those indicates a high likelyhood of Keane being scum. ##vote Keane
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Jun 26, 2018 17:58
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Dancer posted:Here the lock-step breaks... Is it town merk genuinely scum-hunting, or is it scum merk noticing that the two of them are getting too close to each other and bussing his scum-bud? (yes I know he's a claimed power role. I'm still open to changing my mind, and I'll probably be present until deadline).
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Jun 26, 2018 18:00
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Keane hasn't claimed a power role? He was joking that he read his PM at night, his PM says town, so he's confirmed town by night actions. It's a dumb joke.
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Jun 26, 2018 18:02
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Dancer posted:Here the lock-step breaks... Is it town merk genuinely scum-hunting, or is it scum merk noticing that the two of them are getting too close to each other and bussing his scum-bud? Caught my eye as well, the record scratch here seems very pronounced
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Jun 26, 2018 18:05
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On the one hand  (in my mind the thunderdome was you v merk not you v Keane), on the other hand that makes this easier. Feeling pretty ok with my vote right now... that is, assuming I've read all the other things properly this time around. Gonna go back and double-check just to be sure  .
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Jun 26, 2018 18:07
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Retro Futurist posted:Caught my eye as well, the record scratch here seems very pronounced I mean, for the record, I actually agree with merk's argument. Of course I'm still fairly suspect of him, but I can see a world in which all his posts (including that one) are made in good faith, and the record scratch, as you put it, is simply him honestly observing something and changing his mind.
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Jun 26, 2018 18:12
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Retro Futurist posted:DB is also scum. Not sure about moat, kind of cooled on him I am what you think I am but reverse (opposite, you know what I mean)
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Jun 26, 2018 18:24
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Dancer posted:On the one hand Ha I made the same wrong assumption that she thunderdomed merk too at first. I'm very torn on merk right now, I thought he was being fairly scummy in his attack on Asiina which seemed very flimsy, but on the other hand his reversal reads pretty town to me. I'm inclined to leave him alone for now though, I can usually pick up on his scum game later on and he's definitely great to have around when he's town and not tunneled. Keane's gotten a lot more jokey this game than he has been recently which I THINK is more of a town-tell for him but a lot of people are seeing him as scum so maybe I need to wake up more (literally) and look at him harder.
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Jun 26, 2018 18:36
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Dick Bastardly posted:I am what you think I am but reverse (opposite, you know what I mean) I find it weird that this is how you respond to that post. Why would you feel the need to defend yourself from that "case" and why in such an awkward way?
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Jun 26, 2018 18:38
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