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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hello Sailor posted:

Private session of Defense of Starbase Whatever, set to max difficulty. Cloak, full impulse to the upper right corner of the map, and idle for 5-10 minutes while the TFO completes itself without you doing anything.

Oh, good.

Anything quick to get the competitive bonus?

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Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

Cyrano4747 posted:

It's OK, but you're losing out on a lot of type-specific skills and abilities. Having to slot both fire at will and scatter volley, for example, cuts down on what else you can bring in your tac slots.

edit: that said, there are times when it makes sense to mix. Certain abilities that proc off having multiple things, set bonuses that make up for it, etc.

besides the miracle worker one there is also the preferential targeting ship trait which gives your BO a huge damage buff after using CSV (or FAW to buff CRF) the good thing about it: you only need to slot the corresponding Boff skills without needing to have cannons (or beams) equipped to trigger it

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Only just got around to playing the anniversary missions and oh dear they are bad.

Game dead.

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
So what is it about the Atlas Proto Dread that makes the console and/or the ship so OP or whatever ? I like the way the ship looks and would get it for that more than wanting to up my DPS game. I currently have over 2100 lobi and another 1500 would mean a lot more ships and gear over a single ship.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
The ship is okay. It's decent on the space-barbie front, but the boff seating is pretty blah.

The console alone is what's so desirable. It's an unrestricted universal console that passively buffs your energy damage (beams or cannons), and has an active that gives +40% category 2 damage buff for 20 seconds every 2 minutes. I'm pretty sure that's one of the best cat2 buffs in the game, and definitely one of the best unrestricted. Cat2 dmg buffs apply after everything else, and they affect everything that does damage. DPRM and DOMINO are two consoles that go on EVERYTHING, regardless of how you're actually doing damage.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

MikeJF posted:

Oh, good.

Anything quick to get the competitive bonus?
If you have any unlocked recruit mark rewards, I would recommend using them here. Otherwise, I think random TFOs is your best bet, the actual competitive queues never pop.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


g0del posted:

If you have any unlocked recruit mark rewards, I would recommend using them here. Otherwise, I think random TFOs is your best bet, the actual competitive queues never pop.

Yeah you can turn 100 marks into 1 elite mark once a day, I recommend you start doing that so you have 5 for the engine whenever you hit t3.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

Wizard of the Deep posted:

The ship is okay. It's decent on the space-barbie front, but the boff seating is pretty blah.

The console alone is what's so desirable. It's an unrestricted universal console that passively buffs your energy damage (beams or cannons), and has an active that gives +40% category 2 damage buff for 20 seconds every 2 minutes. I'm pretty sure that's one of the best cat2 buffs in the game, and definitely one of the best unrestricted. Cat2 dmg buffs apply after everything else, and they affect everything that does damage. DPRM and DOMINO are two consoles that go on EVERYTHING, regardless of how you're actually doing damage.

the console also buffs your damage resistance and passively heals you when dropping low on health so it has almost everything you want in just one console/clicky effect

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

There is only a couple hours left to get the tier 6 event ship, or get more dilithium from the daily. It ends today at 10am pacific.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
What sweet hell is this new ship?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.



Discovery is such an aesthetic mess. Like at least it's a different type of mess than the usual cryptic miss, but ugh.

Lacermonia
May 15, 2002


Triangles

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Rayman, but with triangles

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



If it were a Cryptic design I could just attribute it to someone throwing the art team a bag of PCP. This? This is CBS's fault, and that's worse, because that means they probably spent several hundreds of thousands of dollars to unbirth that design.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Lol, they gave it the photonic cannon. I think that's a big clue even the devs aren't taking it seriously.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Bremen posted:

Lol, they gave it the photonic cannon. I think that's a big clue even the devs aren't taking it seriously.

The nacelles literally hover off to the sides of the hull.

Also the fact that there is a Janeway class but not a Picard class pisses me off.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Hunter Noventa posted:

The nacelles literally hover off to the sides of the hull.

Also the fact that there is a Janeway class but not a Picard class pisses me off.

Psycho Janeway theory continues to be confirmed.

Trebuchet King
Jul 5, 2005

This post...

...is a
WORK OF FICTION!!



Hunter Noventa posted:

The nacelles literally hover off to the sides of the hull.

Also the fact that there is a Janeway class but not a Picard class pisses me off.

in fairness we still haven't seen the 32nd century Enterprise

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004


It's from an canceled episode of Star Trek Voyager where the Voyager and its crew are transported to Star Fox on SNES.

Bmac32
Nov 25, 2012

I guess if you wanted an STO ship designed by the asura from Guild Wars 2.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

I kinda like the look of it? Of course, I do also play GW2

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Weapons that reduce boff cooldowns are...a thing.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ3Sv_AmSe0

Yep, figured all the new canonical ships from 31st century starfleet would be promo box'd.

At least it'll give us a decent look at them, how discovery managed to go an entire season in the 31st century without clear shots of most of Starfleet's ships is beyond me.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Feb 27, 2021

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Weapons that reduce boff cooldowns are...a thing.
If it's a 2.5% chance, it's still garbage. Those proc chances are per weapon and per firing cycle, and firing cycles are 5 seconds. Even if you're hitting with all 8 weapons, the odds of at least one proc during a firing cycle is only 18%. Even going three firing cycles (15 seconds) there's still a 54% chance that not a single weapon will proc. You can't get an effective cooldown build based on something that's basically a coinflip every 15 seconds.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

That's one way to improve performance. Draw less ship.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


g0del posted:

If it's a 2.5% chance, it's still garbage. Those proc chances are per weapon and per firing cycle, and firing cycles are 5 seconds. Even if you're hitting with all 8 weapons, the odds of at least one proc during a firing cycle is only 18%. Even going three firing cycles (15 seconds) there's still a 54% chance that not a single weapon will proc. You can't get an effective cooldown build based on something that's basically a coinflip every 15 seconds.
Yeah, weapon procs were nerfed into the ground ages ago and you're better off pretending they don't exist. Especially since there's been a lot of weapon types lately with passive/always-on bonuses instead, like the <whatever>-linked phasers or ba'ul antiprotons or whatever.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

The Breach, and Storming the Spire are really bad TFO's, can you just AFK cloak your way through them like you could with the Defense of Starbase One?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Asimo posted:

Yeah, weapon procs were nerfed into the ground ages ago and you're better off pretending they don't exist. Especially since there's been a lot of weapon types lately with passive/always-on bonuses instead, like the <whatever>-linked phasers or ba'ul antiprotons or whatever.

What are the weapons with those passive bonuses? I'm currently using Romulan Plasma just because aesthetics, and was thinking of maybe getting the MW Connie from the event to get the blue phasers.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Eimi posted:

What are the weapons with those passive bonuses? I'm currently using Romulan Plasma just because aesthetics, and was thinking of maybe getting the MW Connie from the event to get the blue phasers.
Off the top of my head (and not including any reputation project weapons):
Spiral Wave weapons: One of the best, since the Spiral mod is basically DMGx2 and an extra phaser proc in one mod. You can purchase them from the dil store if you own any of the Cardassian z-store ships.

Advanced Phaser and Disruptors: A percent based proc, but it's 5% instead of 2.5%. The effect gives increased CrtD with advanced phasers for 15 seconds, with the amount scaling based on how many advanced weapons you have. 5% instead of 2.5% makes a huge difference: with 8 weapons and 3 firing cycles, you have a 71% chance of getting at least one proc, which will last for 15 seconds. So it's up more often than not. Available in the dil store if you own the MW connie or d7 (both promo ships), or account-wide if you have the 10 ship legendary bundle.

Anti-proton weapons: Instead of a 2.5% proc chance, you just get 20% Crtd. That's an extra CrtD mod built-in. Available as drops and can be crafted.

Ba'ul antiproton weapons: Instead of a 2.5% proc, the beams chain to a second target for 5% of damage. The lobi ba'ul set 2pc gives another bounce, and adds bounce to other types of AP weapons. This was a lot better when the bounces could proc kemocite, but cryptic "fixed" that awhile back. They make great tanking weapons, since the bounce helps grab all the aggro. They're also very pretty, and fun to use even if you're not tanking, just make sure you can take the increased threat. They're lockbox weapons which are getting more expensive since they haven't been added to the infinity box yet.

Discovery Phaser and Disruptors: Three types which randomly come out of the box, emitter-linked, integrity-linked, and sensor-linked. All give flat bonuses to 2 skills, sensor-linked are the DPS ones. They're lockbox weapons, and available in the infinity box, but the RNG on top of RNG means that you'll need to open a lot of boxes to get a full set of the type of weapons you want.

Terran Linked weapons: Again, three different types, this time Targeting-Linked are the DPS choice. Like the Disco weapons, they're infinity box, come in phaser or disruptor variants, and are RNG on top of RNG to get the ones you want.

Note that none of these weapons are needed for any of the game content. Choosing weapons based on passive bonuses is only necessary if you're chasing DPS leaderboards. Feel free to choose your weapons solely based on Space Barbie, and most of the ones I listed aren't all that pretty or visually interesting. The exceptions would be the Ba'ul weapons for the bounces, and maybe the Advanced phaser weapons for the classic TOS blue phaser look.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

I said come in! posted:

The Breach, and Storming the Spire are really bad TFO's, can you just AFK cloak your way through them like you could with the Defense of Starbase One?

No idea, you almost certainly can't for Breach (though it's the short one so it's not nearly as bad), I'd have to check for Spire though.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

You can fly above the first section of the breach or cloak through it, when you slow to fight the turret clusters you can brute force your way past the encounter with evasive / full impulse as long as you are cloaked or out of range of the turrets. Once you reach the breach point all the stragglers get cutscened in to join you. The TFO takes about 5 - 6 minutes if you skip that garbage.

OGS-Remix
Sep 4, 2007

Totally surviving on my own. On LAND!

Eimi posted:

What are the weapons with those passive bonuses? I'm currently using Romulan Plasma just because aesthetics, and was thinking of maybe getting the MW Connie from the event to get the blue phasers.

To add to g0del's list, if you ever switch to Phasers or Disruptors, you'll definitely want to get one of the Terran Rep weapons. Those have the effect of doing more damage the lower the target's health is. I think it's one of the highest boosts in the game.

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Despite being a connoisseur of terrible mmos, I've somehow managed to avoid trying this one before. After playing for a couple of weeks I've decided that this game is absolute garbage but also weirdly fun and endearing. All in all, pretty much what I was expecting given that it was made by Cryptic.

Can I get an invite to the chat channel? I'm @hitbutton#8823

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Which competitive impulse? Innervating?

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011

Of course, more important than any passive bonuses is visuals. I like the [Something]-Linked Phasers because the beam effects look like pulsing turrets instead.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

MikeJF posted:

Which competitive impulse? Innervating?
Depends on how you want to trigger it. Innervated is for people who don't want to babysit it, just want it up a lot. It'll get triggered by your firing mode boff abilities, which most people run on GCD. The other commonly used one is the Fortified, which triggers on heals. Since most people don't put their heals on their spam bar, it gives you more control over when you want the speed boost.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

g0del posted:

Depends on how you want to trigger it. Innervated is for people who don't want to babysit it, just want it up a lot. It'll get triggered by your firing mode boff abilities, which most people run on GCD. The other commonly used one is the Fortified, which triggers on heals. Since most people don't put their heals on their spam bar, it gives you more control over when you want the speed boost.

^this is why I use the fortified ones, you absolutely dont want them to trigger off your tac abilities for a cannon ship, it can be controllable if you set your impusle speed to like 1/4th tho

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Hunter Noventa posted:

No idea, you almost certainly can't for Breach (though it's the short one so it's not nearly as bad), I'd have to check for Spire though.

Nope, can't AFK spire either. There's a first phase where you have to destroy six ships. After that it's timer BS that you can AFK, but you need to be able to get through that first one.

If you just want to be left alone in peace that wouldn't be hard to do on a private match at one of the easier levels. Might be challenigng on elite if you aren't geared for it.

Peyote Panda
Mar 10, 2019

Cyrano4747 posted:

Nope, can't AFK spire either. There's a first phase where you have to destroy six ships. After that it's timer BS that you can AFK, but you need to be able to get through that first one.

If you just want to be left alone in peace that wouldn't be hard to do on a private match at one of the easier levels. Might be challenigng on elite if you aren't geared for it.
Just did this as a private solo and it worked great. Just a couple of extra notes to add:

1) The six "ships" you have to destroy are the 4 troop transports docked at the spire and then the two escort groups which are just a few small escorts/frigates. Just mentioning it so you don't spend a couple of minutes like my dumb rear end did circling the spire to find the other two transports.

2) Once I was done, I just flitted over to the bottom left corner of the map and AFKed until it ended. Just don't park yourself directly south of the spire as that's where a Voth Citadel spawns toward the end of the event.

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
That Deimos pilot destroyer from Picard is actually a pretty good ship. Tiny too.

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