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Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Oh no, Roger :ohdear:

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Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

NullBlack posted:

To be fair, there are two goats involved in the scapegoat tradition, and the scapegoat is the one that doesn't get sacrificed. It gets to live out its goat life in the wilderness (no cliffs involved in my sources). And I don't think it was actually blamed for the sins or anything; it's just carrying them away.

Yeah, it's not like the goat was the bad guy, it was basically sacrificed as a vehicle to get a specific set of sins (against god, vs against other people) away from the people. (Possibly to a demon but iirc the word "Azazel" actually shows up first in the tanakh, not in a prior semitic religion.) Maimonides sez it's really just symbolism anyway, which makes sense, because Judaism in general is really keen on "lol no just praying to god doesn't actually absolve you, unless your sin was literally against god alone."

No idea how Christians warped it tho, it might be satan eating the goat alive or something

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