100 post mafia game

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GulagDolls: Jun 4, 2011

of the people who are avoiding thinking about the scum vs town motiviations for actions and are instead copy+pasting things from the mafiascum.edu's 'how to play game' page, pod looks the worst because the posts he quoted that allegedly pinged him look identical to all the other posts in the game

# ? Jun 27, 2018 15:33

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# ? Apr 20, 2024 04:54

AnonymousNarcotics: Aug 6, 2012; we will go far into the sea
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Hal Incandenza posted:

Why is voting Nat20 anti-town?

Are you saying that because of the limited posts we should only be posting treatises on who could conceivably be scum because somehow this format makes D1 less of a crapshoot?

I mean this was basically my thinking. I'll ##unvote if that makes y'all feel better. There's just no way to know on day 1.

# ? Jun 27, 2018 15:57

Asiina: Apr 26, 2011; No going back; Grimey Drawer

It's absolutely nonsense to me that people are actually defending making an empty jokevote turbo as being totally fine regardless of format, but especially in this case where you may only get a few posts in the game before the day ends.

Saying "Day 1 is a crapshoot" and just shrugging your shoulders and walking away is what kills games because then D2 is just D1 all over again.

There's been a fair amount of content already, comment on literally any of it instead of just complaining about getting called out on your lovely votes.

# ? Jun 27, 2018 18:34

Max: Nov 30, 2002

Hmmmm but what do you have to say about my recent comments on Gulag?

# ? Jun 27, 2018 19:08

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

joking is good and turning this admittedly scum-sided but kind of zany game setup into a boring set of giant walls forever just seems kinda unfun, if technically optimal play

But sure, I'll bite for now, why not

I think Nat 20's zany pod post contained an actual nugget of value within the self-masturbation ("I don't think other players are as good as me," he says, with no reason for anyone to believe this of his towngame because, duh, his towngame :v:

) in "Pod's case on me is a lot stronger than his case on Gulag, but he's voting for gulag".

That said, I'd actually disagree, and state that Gulag's obviously intentional attempt to rush the post limit is more suspect than Nat 20's needless joke (even if I personally suspect that gulag would likely do this regardless of alignment, it's still egregious and I admittedly don't know quite how deep gulag would go). Nat's rather overly explanatory response in declaring a case against Pod reminds me of how he played FFVII mafia, however, at least until the two of us counterclaimed each other for fun and profit, so I've got my eye on him for meta reasons. I take specific issue with "he knows me too well to believe I would agree with this generally accepted piece of mafia wisdom", which is nonsense.

Or in other words, count me as an actual, not just policy vote against nat 20

other things

- I want to know what Pod saw in the posts he quoted that pinged him
- Asiina is town

# ? Jun 27, 2018 19:08

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

I�m so sorry asiina I didn�t mean any of it

# ? Jun 27, 2018 19:28

Xad: Jul 2, 2009; "Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"; College Slice

I think one thing I'm kinda struggling with is what Gene just mentioned -- if we only have limited posts, I feel like every post should be chock-full of info, but that doesn't really sound fun
or in the spirit of the game imo, and I don't really have an effortpost in me this early.

Honestly, I thought we would've hit 100 posts way earlier and was worried the day would end with me having like two posts :v:

Gene's and Max's posts seems townie imo.

I'm not sure what it is exactly but I don't like something about Hal's posts so far
Still fairly suspicious of pod

# ? Jun 27, 2018 20:07

Asiina: Apr 26, 2011; No going back; Grimey Drawer

Max posted:

Hmmmm but what do you have to say about my recent comments on Gulag?

I think that Gulag knows what he's doing is anti-town and doesn't care. I disagree with Beet that scum and bad town are the same, but also I find that absent something stronger D1, I'm fine with voting out someone who could be either.

Gulag is very difficult to read under the best circumstances and usually you can kind of leave him alone for a while and hope that something comes of it that tells you one way or another, but if he's going to make the game actively more difficult for town by limiting our posting leeway, then I'm not comfortable giving him that time.

In other words, I think he's scum because he's doing scummy things and I think that he gets away with that a lot because "he's gulag and he's just trying to have fun" but even if he's just being bad town, without anything stronger to go on (which right now looks to be a dumb joke Nat20 made and Pod making a probably overzealous call about it) it's the best vote I think we can do.

Xad posted:

I think one thing I'm kinda struggling with is what Gene just mentioned -- if we only have limited posts, I feel like every post should be chock-full of info, but that doesn't really sound fun
or in the spirit of the game imo, and I don't really have an effortpost in me this early.

I don't think every post should be a giant effort post, but again that's not the same as purposefully wasting as many posts as you can on shitposting. Like why is this required to be a black and white thing?

# ? Jun 27, 2018 20:18

Xad: Jul 2, 2009; "Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"; College Slice

Asiina posted:

I don't think every post should be a giant effort post, but again that's not the same as purposefully wasting as many posts as you can on shitposting. Like why is this required to be a black and white thing?

Oh, I don't think it has to be a very black/white thing, it was more that I felt like I should post more, but didn't have a whole lot to say. Usually in a normal game this doesn't matter, or at least not as much as in a game where the day ends upon hitting 100 posts. Was more of a personal thing, not a rule for everybody.

# ? Jun 27, 2018 21:15

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Asiina posted:

I think that Gulag knows what he's doing is anti-town and doesn't care. I disagree with Beet that scum and bad town are the same, but also I find that absent something stronger D1, I'm fine with voting out someone who could be either.

Gulag is very difficult to read under the best circumstances and usually you can kind of leave him alone for a while and hope that something comes of it that tells you one way or another, but if he's going to make the game actively more difficult for town by limiting our posting leeway, then I'm not comfortable giving him that time.

In other words, I think he's scum because he's doing scummy things and I think that he gets away with that a lot because "he's gulag and he's just trying to have fun" but even if he's just being bad town, without anything stronger to go on (which right now looks to be a dumb joke Nat20 made and Pod making a probably overzealous call about it) it's the best vote I think we can do.

These are all good points but coming out of the gates posting multiple one word posts feels a little too on the nose as a scum tell and more like him trolling around a bit.

# ? Jun 27, 2018 23:12

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

Asiina posted:

. I disagree with Beet that scum and bad town are the same, but also I find that absent something stronger D1, I'm fine with voting out someone who could be either.

We don't have the luxury of 72 hours or whatever to joke phase or write war and peace. We have an indeterminate time to lynch someone and on a day 1 in a novel format with the usual day 1 blindness I'm going to vote for the person who is least productive to town.

So yes in the early stages of any game, and especially in this one, bad town are just as good as scum and nothing is lost by such a mislynch.

Votecount for Day 1

Natural 20 (3): GeneX, Hal Incandenza, AnonymousNarcotics, Max, ~~AnonymousNarcotics~~

GulagDolls (3): Natural 20, Beetphyxious, Podima, Asiina, ~~Natural 20~~

Podima (2): GulagDolls, Natural 20

chaoslord (1): Murmur Twin

Asiina (0): Podima, ~~Podima~~

Not Voting (4): AnonymousNarcotics, chaoslord, Mr. Humalong, Xad

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set.

29 posts left.

# ? Jun 27, 2018 23:18

GulagDolls: Jun 4, 2011

this is actually going to turn into a huge disaster where nobody is willing to post as we get near 100

Asiina posted:

I think that Gulag knows what he's doing is anti-town and doesn't care. I disagree with Beet that scum and bad town are the same, but also I find that absent something stronger D1, I'm fine with voting out someone who could be either.

Gulag is very difficult to read under the best circumstances and usually you can kind of leave him alone for a while and hope that something comes of it that tells you one way or another, but if he's going to make the game actively more difficult for town by limiting our posting leeway, then I'm not comfortable giving him that time.

In other words, I think he's scum because he's doing scummy things and I think that he gets away with that a lot because "he's gulag and he's just trying to have fun" but even if he's just being bad town, without anything stronger to go on (which right now looks to be a dumb joke Nat20 made and Pod making a probably overzealous call about it) it's the best vote I think we can do.

I don't think every post should be a giant effort post, but again that's not the same as purposefully wasting as many posts as you can on shitposting. Like why is this required to be a black and white thing?

posting the YMCA lyrics line by line at 7:00 PM tomorrow is actually good for town because it lures out predatory robots such as these, so im going to say retroactively say that was my plan

# ? Jun 27, 2018 23:54

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

oh also the whole 'scum would never be so obvious' is the dumbest thing ever.

being obvious is a great gambit for scum because half of town would come to your defense decrying how obvious it is.

and now to possibly undermine all my arguments (and hit my post count for today) mmt and chaoslord are getting overlooked sitting on 2 posts each and one of them has voted the other.

supersuss

on reflection i'm more suss on that than gulag's posting giving shelter to scum lurking (i'm feeling that's ironic coming from me)

# ? Jun 27, 2018 23:59

Natural 20: Sep 17, 2007; Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Beetphyxious posted:

oh also the whole 'scum would never be so obvious' is the dumbest thing ever.

being obvious is a great gambit for scum because half of town would come to your defense decrying how obvious it is.

and now to possibly undermine all my arguments (and hit my post count for today) mmt and chaoslord are getting overlooked sitting on 2 posts each and one of them has voted the other.

supersuss

on reflection i'm more suss on that than gulag's posting giving shelter to scum lurking (i'm feeling that's ironic coming from me)

Are you suggesting murdering a lurker?

If so which of our two?

If not why is my pod case not legit

# ? Jun 28, 2018 00:04

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

Natural 20 posted:

Are you suggesting murdering a lurker?

If so which of our two?

If not why is my pod case not legit

MMT voted chaoslord and called him out as scum and he has yet to post anything

Beetphyxious posted:

oh also the whole 'scum would never be so obvious' is the dumbest thing ever.

being obvious is a great gambit for scum because half of town would come to your defense decrying how obvious it is.

and now to possibly undermine all my arguments (and hit my post count for today) mmt and chaoslord are getting overlooked sitting on 2 posts each and one of them has voted the other.

supersuss

on reflection i'm more suss on that than gulag's posting giving shelter to scum lurking (i'm feeling that's ironic coming from me)

I�m not ruling Gulag out, only stating my opinion.

Also fine voting either of the lurkers.

# ? Jun 28, 2018 00:32

Mr. Humalong: May 7, 2007

*anything resembling a rebuttal

gently caress phone posting is hard guys, sorry

# ? Jun 28, 2018 00:33

Murmur Twin: Feb 11, 2003; An ever-honest pacifist with no mind for tricks.

Podima posted:

##vote GulagDolls Stop shitposting, it's actively anti-town.

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I also agree with Max and would vote Nat20, the "hay guyz I didnt get a pm lol!!!" is generally either a scumtell or anti-town (if you're vt you want to draw the nk and Nat knows this).

Hmm.

##vote Podima

My read on scum Podima is that he tries to make serious-sounding cases too early on behaviors that are relatively innocuous, and this sadly fits the bill for me.

# ? Jun 28, 2018 00:41

chaoslord: Jan 28, 2009; Nature Abhors A Vacuum

Max posted:

His agreeing that Nat20's maneuver is scummy but going for the easy vote on Gulag instead.

Natural 20 posted:

[I clipped down this long post but click thru, it's the pod vote]

Sold ##vote podima
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GeneX posted:

I think Nat 20's zany pod post contained an actual nugget of value within the self-masturbation ("I don't think other players are as good as me," he says, with no reason for anyone to believe this of his towngame because, duh, his towngame ) in "Pod's case on me is a lot stronger than his case on Gulag, but he's voting for gulag".

That said, I'd actually disagree, and state that Gulag's obviously intentional attempt to rush the post limit is more suspect than Nat 20's needless joke (even if I personally suspect that gulag would likely do this regardless of alignment, it's still egregious and I admittedly don't know quite how deep gulag would go). Nat's rather overly explanatory response in declaring a case against Pod reminds me of how he played FFVII mafia, however, at least until the two of us counterclaimed each other for fun and profit, so I've got my eye on him for meta reasons. I take specific issue with "he knows me too well to believe I would agree with this generally accepted piece of mafia wisdom", which is nonsense.

Or in other words, count me as an actual, not just policy vote against nat 20

GeneX, help me make sure I'm reading this right. You say that Nat20s post has one point of value in that "Pod's case on [Nat] is better than gulag", but then you immediately say you disagree with that point of value and say that gulag's thing is more scummy than Nat20. And then you are voting for Nat20 for meta reasons. Did I read that right?

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