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I guess that's why I don't find town very interesting really. There's not much creativity, you're just reacting to stuff. Unless I go deep into a game, once I die as town, the game's out my mind. I much prefer being able to express myself on scum. At least there I feel like I'm being challenged on how creative I can be. This is why I stand by the statement "I don't run the same play twice." Because honestly why am I even playing if I'm not trying something new? I already ran that case on Pod, so I wouldn't do the same thing again. The fun is that you guys now know that I don't run the same play and half the fun of my next scum game will be playing around that. So  Nat20 Vanilla Town.
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Natural 20, Vanilla Town, died Day 1 actions please.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:21
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GeneX, Mafia Goon, died Night 1 Do not post until votefinder does
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Votecount for Day 2 Not Voting (11): AnonymousNarcotics, Asiina, Beetphyxious, chaoslord, GulagDolls, Hal Incandenza, Max, Mr. Humalong, Murmur Twin, Podima, XadWith 11 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set. POST 223
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Jun 28, 2018 23:22
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Murmur Twin posted:##vote GeneX  I'm very curious how that NK happened. Podima posted:MMT, do you think Nat20 is town? If so, why? I did think Nat20 was town! Admittedly, the fact that my two biggest suspects were casing him was probably influencing me. I have null reads on ANarc (who is lurking) and Gulag (who is making lots of low-content posts) - like obviously you could make a case for them seeming scummy in a vacuum, but neither one is playing in a way inconsistent with how they normally play. If anything, if they're town I think they're easy fake cases for scum to make. Pod, who'd you cop last night?
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Jun 28, 2018 23:39
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Uh could be bodyguard I guess? It was my first thought. Bus driver or other combo seems even less likely. Idk.  9 posts eachAthough yesterday worked out okay content wise.
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Jun 28, 2018 23:45
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Ha! Best night ever
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Beetphyxious posted:Uh could be bodyguard I guess? It was my first thought. Bus driver or other combo seems even less likely. Bodyguard usually dies as well.
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Jun 29, 2018 00:56
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Murmur Twin posted:
I copped you as town. Scum dying at night is most likely a SK - it's not unreasonable in a 13 person game, and I already mentioned that Kash specified I would get Town/Not Town results. It's kinda weird that Beet doesn't even acknowledge that as a possibility. (This would also imply the scum kill got blocked, which is not unreasonable given that I was the only PR to claim on D1 - or GX was performing the kill and whatever killed her took priority.) Anyways I was clearly way the gently caress off with my reads based on how D1/N1 shook out so I'll do a reread and come back to this. One question though - Max, what were you referring to with this? I might be missing something from the context but it didn't seem like you were replying to Xad. Max posted:So I’ve been thinking about the strategy of this game a lot and it seems like this is something to do.
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Jun 29, 2018 01:04
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Podima posted:Good post . Town read. Pod, quoting GeneX and declaring a town read GeneX posted:previewedit: if people just post to unvote after Pod's probably true claim I will be vaguely cross with them, please vote for someone else if/when you disengage from inspector gehndget over here GeneX, soft-defending Pod and making it clear she believes his claim Podima posted:I copped you as town. I'm having a bit of trouble accepting that Pod claimed cop on D1 and was neither roleblocked (which I assume would exist to counter a cop?), nor killed by scum, or an SK/vig. Also, I'm not a rules expert or anything but it's my impression that if (for example) GX was trying to kill me and the SK (or a vig) killed her, both she and I would die. Right? Pod immediately volunteering an explanation for why there was no scum NK makes me think he's scum who was practicing getting his story straight. Kashuno posted:Hello, this is 100 post mafia. It is your typical mafia game, without a lot (or any?) power roles. Hot take time - I think that this is an all-vanilla game and that (a) Pod claiming cop (b) Pod claiming information that there's a third party (c) scum GeneX being the only N1 death are lies / the result of scum trying to pull a gambit (killing Gene to make us waste our posts, speculating on what the setup might be / how that happened). If the scumteam is all goons, then they would know that we're all VT and feel confident fake-claiming whatever they need to get out of jams. Obviously this would be a gutsy play, and if other people start to claim stuff I'd probably discount this theory, but right now it's how I feel. ##vote Podima - ideally I'm wrong and you'll make some awesome case that makes me sure you're town but until then I'll put my money where my mouth is since posts are at a premium in this game.
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If scum were blocked the Occam's razor take (aside from a perfect aligning of the stars) would be they tried to nk you which I thought would be a super obvious therefore bad move. Thats why my first thought was body guard more than SK, which I had forgotten was spoken about. I've also got this paranoid theory that scum bussed their own to validate cop claim.
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Jun 29, 2018 01:46
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Murmur Twin posted:Pod, quoting GeneX and declaring a town read  Look I just literally voiced this as a paranoid theory but I don't really think I'd vote him this early. Christ.
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Why are you assuming scum would kill their own? To what end? To get Pod cred when he's already an uncounterclaimed cop? How much more cred does he need. Also why would he bring up SK in that case, when if they were going to do that they have the other scum come forward and claim to be a vig and then 2 of your scum have mad town cred. Like that theory makes no sense at all and puts scum at a big disadvantage for no reason. All because you have a hunch based on D1 posting that Pod is scum? I'm more likely to believe MMT is a godfather trying to get the cop lynched than Pod is scum who killed his own teammate because he knew it was an all vanilla game. That said, I'm not going to vote either of them because there are lots of other options. Anyway, looking at Gene's reads, she calls me town in one post and in another gives a lot of hedgy reads: GeneX posted:- Hal is also stretching out posts but doesn't have the "is gulag" meta behind him, that's...not great (he might just be messing with Asiina though so ???) I was hoping there'd be more to it than this, but I find it hard to make connections at this point based on this list since a lot of it are words that don't really mean a whole lot like icky and blurgh. I looked at the two people who voted for Gene though, and it was MMT and Nat, so it does make me think MMT is more likely to be town. With such a small number of votes needed and "deadline" approaching, throwing a vote on a teammate is risky. However, right after that Xad voted for Nat20 after not mentioning him at all previously, and for pretty weak reasons: Xad posted:I agree with you on this--the amount of "they should know that I know that they know that THIS SPECIFIC THING" in Nat20's case right up there makes it hard to believe Xad also gave Gene a town read, and was one of Gene's vague reads and those usually are scum light busing each other in there somewhere. So while not the strongest case, it's the best I've got right now. ##vote Xad
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Jun 29, 2018 02:11
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Interesting night result, interesting cases, interesting meltdown. What a doozy. I’ve got 8 posts left so I promise my next one will be much more substantial. I still like GD for scum, but I’m an idiot so I’ll try and wait for more evidence.
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Jun 29, 2018 02:12
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Podima posted:I copped you as town. Why did you cop MMT? And I was posting that to run out the clock and get us to lunch time.
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Jun 29, 2018 02:36
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Xad posted:Gene's and Max's posts seems townie imo. Explain what you saw here please.
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Jun 29, 2018 03:16
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Max posted:Why did you cop MMT? I ended the day with a scumread on her (hopefully should be obvious), and wanted to cut the Gordian's Knot to at least some degree. Her bizarre continued push on me today implies she's either misguided town too wrapped up in a wild theory (which, to be fair, is on brand) or a godfather, but the latter is not an option worth exploring at this point with 100 posts/day. Also, thank you for clarifying. (P.S. MMT, you're discounting the most straightforward option, which is that a doc protected me last night.) --- Hey Mr. Humalong, how did you go from this: Mr. Humalong posted:These are all good points but coming out of the gates posting multiple one word posts feels a little too on the nose as a scum tell and more like him [Gulag] trolling around a bit. Mr. Humalong posted:I’m not ruling Gulag out, only stating my opinion. To this: Mr. Humalong posted:Interesting night result, interesting cases, interesting meltdown. I don't see how this logic flows between those posts, even on separate days.
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Max posted:Explain what you saw here please. can do! Early game I usually try to look for people trying to start or continue a conversation, keeps day one from being completely random, reads as trying to be helpful town Max posted:Hmmmmmmmm not when it comes to win conditions. A good distinction to make imo, "bad town == scum" is definitely an argument I've tried to make as scum before Max posted:Hmmmm but what do you have to say about my recent comments on Gulag? An example of the thing I was looking for. Trying to get a response out of people, pick their thoughts etc. Genex did something similar at the bottom of this post, prodding Pod for more info about his suspicions. I did feel like the "asiina is town" statment kinda came out of nowhere but eh, it's early. Well. Also I was wrong about genex so uhh GeneX posted:...Gulag's obviously intentional attempt to rush the post limit is more suspect than Nat 20's needless joke (even if I personally suspect that gulag would likely do this regardless of alignment, it's still egregious and I admittedly don't know quite how deep gulag would go). Nat's rather overly explanatory response in declaring a case against Pod reminds me of how he played FFVII mafia, however, at least until the two of us counterclaimed each other for fun and profit, so I've got my eye on him for meta reasons. I take specific issue with "he knows me too well to believe I would agree with this generally accepted piece of mafia wisdom", which is nonsense.
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Jun 29, 2018 04:28
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Podima posted:
Because my strongest lead was Gene, and she’s dead, so I’m falling back on Gulag since it was pointed out to me after that first quoted post, and right before the second quoted post (by Beet I believe), that posting like that is both his forte and a good, bold move to make as scum. Whether it’s his usual style or not it’s pretty anti-town and definitely doesn’t help us figure out who is who. I’ll wait and see if he continues it now that joke phase is definitely over. Odd that you’d try to deflect the attention on you onto me, though.
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Jun 29, 2018 05:13
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Mr. Humalong posted:Odd that you’d I think it's a good catch.
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Jun 29, 2018 12:12
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Phoneposting until further notice so I’m just going off the cuff instead of digging for quotes. Right now I’m suspicious on Mr. H - he said his strongest read was gene but I didn’t see that communicated anywhere, and I agree that his opinion on Gulag seems a bit hedge-y. ##vote mr humalong Also suspicious of xad, pending further reads, for seeming content with a town read on gene. Re: Pod - haha yeah if I’m to be honest I’ll admit that I think part of my suspicion comes from me wanting to have been right, but I still think this totally seems like pods scumgame outside of the cop claim. The fact that it went 1. Suspicion on Pod 2. Pod claims cop, mentions a possible 3p role 3. A scum dies in the night, giving credence to what pod said 4. No one else has given any indication of any roles whatsoever Makes me deeply suspicious but I admit we can wait a day and see if Pod is killed / there are two NKs tonight.
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Sorry just woke up. I also was somewhat suspicious of pod's cop claim. Not enough to vote him for it yet, but I'll definitely keep an eye on him. Mr. H is also pinging me. Looking back at his posts, he hasn't been as blatantly obvious as gulag with wasting posts but he has done that. I'm on mobile so I can't quote without significant  but I'm talking about posts like his 2nd one once the game started "now that everyone's asleep" or the one about how he'll make a more meaningful post later or the one that is a mafia edit. It's just unnecessary as town to have all these extra meaningless posts.I have town reads on asiina, mmt, max. Gulag is gulag. It's a null read. For now I'll ##vote Mr h
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Jun 29, 2018 15:35
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It is very unlikely I will use all 9 of my posts so, IDK, someone can claim a couple of them if they want. I wish I had pushed on Gene harder. MMT I swear to gosh if you are scum this game I am going to sit in my closet and just scream for forever, because I am sitting here going "Wow MMT is so town" and I don't know if I will be able to handle being tricked the one time I actually think you are town. See a lot of rustling around mr h, looks like a good catch. Will have to read closer when I'm not about to run out the door.
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Jun 29, 2018 16:15
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chaoslord posted:It is very unlikely I will use all 9 of my posts so, IDK, someone can claim a couple of them if they want. this post reads a bit scummy to me. "Dang, I totally knew that person was scum" and "I see a bandwagon forming, will join later" is how I'm seeing this
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Jun 29, 2018 16:48
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I'm going to make 8 more spectacular posts a bit later today
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Jun 29, 2018 20:49
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Xad posted:Gene's and Max's posts seems townie imo. Actually ##vote Xad He doesn't seem to be taking any strong stances or making any cases, he's just kind of commenting on things with minimal explanation or follow-through. The d1 vote on Nat and defense of Gene are also both suspicious.
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If you guys want to lunch me that’s fine, we somehow killed off a Mafia n1 so we’re in a pretty good spot. Murmur Twin posted:Phoneposting until further notice so I’m just going off the cuff instead of digging for quotes. I work 16 hours a day and for a large portion of my shift I don’t have cell service so I posted, worked, checked the thread and it was night 1 before I could even vote. I was split between voting GD and Gene, didn’t like the push on Nat20 at all. Hindsight etc etc and of course you don’t have to believe it but eh. AnonymousNarcotics posted:Sorry just woke up. Like if I don’t post at all I’m lurker scum. If I post too much I’m lurker scum. If I post a whopping 5 times day 1 out of 100 total posts I’m lurker scum. I can’t get a read on you because you’re lurking very hard. I agree with MMT’s read on Pod but voting for a dubious cop claim would really not help my case at this point. I like the Xad angle, dude has been wrong almost on purpose for everything so far. ##vote Xad
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Xad posted:this post reads a bit scummy to me. "Dang, I totally knew that person was scum" and "I see a bandwagon forming, will join later" is how I'm seeing this Eh, I'm not gonna pretend my post was perfect and super towny or anything, but "a bit scummy" can be applied to probably most mafia posts. Take this one for example! You took a post and applied a very minimal pressure to it without an actual alignment call or a vote. It can read like you're just trying to float my name out there without wanting to be responsible if the votes start coming in. That's a bit scummy. I don't think you're doing this, I've played enough games with you recently enough for me that I know your play style doesn't involve making a lot of hard calls, but I'm going to try to push you to make one on me here anyway, ha
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Mr. Humalong posted:If you guys want to lunch me that’s fine, we somehow killed off a Mafia n1 so we’re in a pretty good spot. Vote what’s in your heart.
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Jun 30, 2018 22:10
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Max posted:Vote what’s in your heart. ##vote emptiness
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Jun 30, 2018 22:55
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So nobody has posted in this thread in 24 hours. If it goes another 24 hours without discussion I'm just going to spam until I end the day because I think Xad is scum and don't want this fun game concept to die.
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Soo everyone still here? This is probably a good social experiment on why deadlines are great motivators. I was holding off on posting until later because I was vocal early last game and held off late game, so I wanted to try the reverse for day 2. However, it seems everyone is doing the same thing or just forgot this game exists.
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Beetphyxious posted:Soo everyone still here? I just have been about wanting to mafs combined with some other life stuff. I'm taking the day off work tomorrow so I'll get my posts in. IMO we should work toward having an unofficial deadline tomorrow. I know everyone in the game has been low effort here on D2 but by the end of tomorrow that should have been enough days to move toward something, especially with this being a 4 page game.
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Asiina posted:Why are you assuming scum would kill their own? To what end? To get Pod cred when he's already an uncounterclaimed cop? How much more cred does he need. Also why would he bring up SK in that case, when if they were going to do that they have the other scum come forward and claim to be a vig and then 2 of your scum have mad town cred. because it's a legit strategy and i've seen it played out before on a scum team where they hedged a bet (due to them not having a godfather) that their was no cop and they were right. while it's not likely it's not completely inconceivable of a play. quote:
i dont think genex was any risk of being lynched. this could be just good old fashioned distancing. however.. i don't think mmt is because it reads as genuine. anyway the reason i quoted your post was for this quote:
going back and re-reading xad and gene's posts i agree, gene made an effort post outright clearing some people who had no votes (moi) and then being intentionally vague on others. xad's is the one that stood out most to me, but mr humalong was not too far behind. however if i put myself in scum shoes i wouldn't be trying to clear my whole team in one post.. same could be said for xad's post i guess Xad posted:... feeling xad at the moment. ##vote xad chaoslord posted:I just have been gulag must have forgotten the words...
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and yeah we're -2, it's pluarity, but i dont want day 2 to stretch on for another 3 days
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From the community that brought you Bif is a Lurker comes “Everyone is a Lurker”
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Dang, go to a comedy festival and come back almost dead  that'll teach mechaoslord posted:Eh, I'm not gonna pretend my post was perfect and super towny or anything, but "a bit scummy" can be applied to probably most mafia posts. nani the gently caress is this ##vote chaoslord
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Jul 2, 2018 03:20
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So we've got 66 posts left after this one everyone is too loving quiet.quote:
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I got accused of wasting posts so I stopped posting. I still like the read on Xad so I don't see much else to discuss besides GD is GD and I think Podima's cop claim is odd.
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Mr. Humalong posted:I got accused of wasting posts so I stopped posting. Yeah I think it being the weekend + everyone not wanting to "waste posts" is why it's so quiet d2. Mr. Humalong posted:Podima's cop claim is odd. Care to elaborate?
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