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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
This is the non-spoiler thread for the weekly episode discussion!

Big Brother US airs three-times weekly, on Sundays, Wednesdays and Thursdays on CBS.

Thursday Show - Live Show where a player is evicted, Head of Household competition held or begins
Sunday Show - Post-HOH Competition events, HOH Nominations
Wednesday Show - Veto Competition, Re-nominations if needed

The season starts June 27th! The theme for this season is all about online trending. This season the House Guests will be assessed by viewers as either positive or negatively trending. Those who are the highest trending each week, will be able to enter the BB App Store, and choose a in-game power of some kind. Those who are negatively trending will be given some form of punishment.

What is Big Brother?

Depending upon your level of appreciation for gross filth, reality TV shenanigans and sometimes excellent strategic gameplay, Big Brother is either the bottom of the TV barrel or an entertaining way to waste the summer. The American version of the Dutch original, Big Brother crams around 16 people in a soundstage house for approximately 95 days. Each week the players or "House Guests" will compete in competitions to determine who has power in the house. The one who wins this power, the "Head of Household" (HOH) has the ability to nominate two people for eviction. These two players, the HOH and three other randomly drawn guests will compete in the Power of Veto competition. The winner of this power will have the ability to veto one of the nominations. If one of the nominations is vetoed, the HOH will have to replace the player who was removed. Once the final two nominees are set, the rest of the house will vote to evict one person from the game. The HOH no longer plays a part unless this vote becomes a tie, in which case they will cast a vote to break it. Once the player is evicted, all the guests save for the previous HOH will compete in a new HOH competition and the process will repeat itself.

Each week will follow this model with some minor variations. All through this process viewers are treated to "Diary Room" (DR) sessions, as the producers will privately speak with each player about their gameplay, their thoughts on other players and the game itself. This interview process also gives the DR the ability to affect the players in subtle or not so subtle ways. (Ex: So you won HOH, who will you nominate? Do you trust player X? Why? Do you believe what they say? Do you think you should make a big move? Is nominating player X really a big move?) The best part of this is that their usually comes across on the live feeds, allowing viewers to see from where plans and moves really come.

Strategy will come into play as alliances are made and broken to ensure ones safety. Unlike some shows like Survivor, this gives the chance for those low on the totem pole to gain power and strike back against majority alliances. Approximately 4-5 weeks into the game, all future evicted players will become members of the jury. Once the house reaches the final three, all three House Guests will compete in three rounds of competition for the final HOH. Once the final HOH is selected, they'll evict the final player. These final two will then go before the jury, who will then select a winner. The various competitions within the house means there are often several opportunities for people to obtain power and exploit it or fake sucking at competitions to fly under the radar. Both strategies often prove successful to various degrees. The strategy sessions among players often prove to be one of the best aspects of the show, as you get a daily running idea of who they are targeting, who they can manipulate to do certain things and ways to ensure they achieve their goals. There is also a generally reliable amount of schadenfreude, as those on the top often hit lows through luck or DR meddling.

Why should I watch?

Perhaps you're a fan or Survivor or Amazing Race or perhaps you've seen one of the other flavors of Big Brother from around the world like the U.K., Canadian or Australian edition. Big Brother U.S. takes many of the same concepts seen in reality competition while also giving one a semi-behind the scenes view of what's really going on. Because the online "live feeds" gives viewers a window into the house for 90% of the week, we can get a good idea of what's really happening with alliances and schemes, what the players are actually like, and what meddling is possibly happening by Big Brother to get certain things to happen. One can then compare that version of reality against what they see on their screens three nights a week on CBS. In past experience, this means that viewers are sometimes treated to racist, homophobic or sexist talk which never makes air. Sometimes this happens to such a degree as to force CBS to acknowledge these actions officially and on air, as was the case with Big Brother 15.

Unlike the original Dutch version and several other international versions, the viewing public generally has no part to play in removing players from the game. However they can affect certain punishments or rewards through online or phone voting. This can include the gross food choices for the Have Not selected House Guests, or possibly secret tasks assigned to them.

What should I watch?

If you're interested in looking into past seasons, I personally recommend checking out a couple of seasons to various degrees. They'll all available through CBS All Access on the cbs.com website:

Big Brother 1: Most closely followed the original Dutch premise, as viewers voted on who got evicted. The only U.S. season to follow this model.
Big Brother 2: Switched up the format to have the HOH nominate two for eviction and features one of the most highly regarded players in show history.
Big Brother 3: Introduced the Power of Veto, which gave the nominated a better chance to save themselves. BB US took on its present form with this season.
Big Brother 7: The first and only true All Stars season. Featured players from all the previous seasons, and includes one of the fan favorite alliances in show history.
Big Brother 10: General Goon consensus as one of the best seasons, featuring a memorable cast and another contestant in the running for the best in show history.
Big Brother 12: Worthy winner, with some solid gameplay. Features subsequent Survivor player Hayden Moss and unleashed Brenchel, the now married couple of Brendon and Rachel who you might have seen on The Amazing Race.
Big Brother 14: Return of four previous players who act as "Coaches" to newbies. One of the returnees being a fan favorite who displays some of the best gameplay in show history.
Big Brother 16: Solid gameplay from the eventual winner, who ran a clinic on how not to get targeted.

Seasons to avoid:

Big Brother 9: Slap dash writers strike spring season. The winner later went to jail for illegal oxycodone sales, the rest of the cast was all generally horrible. Possibly worthwhile as a train wreck.
Big Brother 15: The misogynist and racist season. The winner played a decent game, but they and most of the players were generally derogatory and deluded people.
Big Brother 18/19: Poor game play and winners, both seasons featured returning players which greatly hampered and negatively impacted gameplay.

Okay, I'm down to watch

If you're interested, you can tune in several ways:

The CBS Show: Airs three nights a week: Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is a compilation version of what has happened in the house with a live Thursday show.
Big Brother After Dark: Airs every night for three hours from around 11-2 on POP. Rotates between live feeds, censors language and has commercial breaks.
Live Feeds Online through CBS All Access: "24/7" access to the feeds barring ceremonies, competitions and the Thursday live show taping. Also blanks out feeds when some legal issue may arise. i.e. copyrighted song singing or players speaking about someone by name who didn't sign off and allow that.
CBS also provides clips of various memorable events through their Live Streaming Player.

So what do the Live Feeds get you? Four camera feeds from inside the house. Generally two cameras focusing on an area each. Meaning two cameras will cover the same conversation from different angles, while two other cameras cover another conversation. Which room is being covered will be at the mercy of the guys and gals in the control room. They are generally good about switching to conversations/events most at interest strategically or those the most entertaining. It should be noted that live feeds are not required to get a feel for the show or keep up, but it might be of interest to check out one of the previous seasons, then look for live feed clips online to see how it works. If you do find you enjoy a certain player, the feeds give you the ability to see them a lot more, get a better sense of their game and personality.

If you don't get the feeds, you can also still get a daily/hourly/minute by minute run down of what's happening. As several websites post updates on everything that happens on the live feeds within the house. These include:

http://www.bigbrothernetwork.com
http://www.hamsterwatch.com
http://www.jokersupdates.com
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com

If you wish to jump in the live feeds and talk spoilers, head over to the live feeds spoiler thread here.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Season 20 Cast:

Angela Rummans 26, Fitness model - Playa Vista, California
Angie "Rockstar" Lantry 34, Stay-at-home mom - Columbia, Maryland
Bayleigh Dayton 25, Flight attendant - Atlanta, Georgia
Brett Robinson 25, Cybersecurity engineer - Charlestown, Massachusetts
Chris "Swaggy C" Williams 23, Day trader - Bridgeport, Connecticut
Faysal Shafaat 26, Substitute teacher - Orlando, Florida
Haleigh Broucher 21, College student - College Station, Texas
JC Mounduix 28, Professional dancer - West Hollywood, California
Kaitlyn Herman 24 , Life coach - Encino, California
Kaycee Clark 30, Pro-football player - Tempe, Arizona
Rachel Swindler 29, Vegas entertainer - Las Vegas, Nevada
Sam Bledsoe 27, Welder - Stuarts Draft, Virginia
Scottie Salton 26, Shipping manager - Chicago, Illinois
Steve Arienta 40, Former undercover cop - Wanaque, New Jersey
Tyler Crispen 23, Lifeguard - Hilton Head, South Carolina
Winston Hines 28, Medical sales rep - Bowling Green, Kentucky

Teek fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jun 27, 2018

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Im shamefully giddy.

"When Big Brother started there were no smart phones. No tablets. No social media. No loving headaches about all the racist and terrible things posted online and times they banged minions."

Edit: Kaysar!

Big Brother 30: Golly, I sound like a douche.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jun 28, 2018

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
Trying to decide on who will be the most annoying HG. Rockstar is obvious, but Kaitlyn is close.Tyler is a dark horse candidate.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Its right on pace because from first impressions I hate almost everyone besides like 3 or 4 of them. I think yoga girl is "on" though. And hopefully the nerd gets deflowered by the Vegas girl by feeds come on and calms down.

"Boy, you really surprised me, professional tv camera crew recording me working out alone while miced up."

Also "when I came up with Swaggy C" is second only in hilarity to "when I came up with Beast Mode Cowboy."

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
I missed his intro, so I was thinking, “wait, is he going to refer to himself as Swaggy C?” And lo and behold...

Yeah, on first impression, I like a handful of people. 2? Maybe 3?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

He has personalized "Swaggy C" clothing. I don't even know how process that.

Actually it may be one of my best first impressions. I have no real dislike for football lady, beach sports lady, farmer girl (although I have PTSD for pretty Texan girl), welding lady, and probably the surfer and surprisingly JC. That's real good because I usually hate everyone from the intros.

The Bro dude is literally "Mr. Pectacular" Jesse's wrestling character. Its absurd.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
How many Swaggy C shirts does he have??

I like the medical sales rep guy. Hard to say at this point.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Oh yeah, when I say I hate everyone on first impressions it's always because they're all "on" and the show is doing those terrible intros and typecasting them as one dimensional stereotypes. It always balances out as the season goes on.

It's why I think the yoga lady isn't as bad as she seems. They're just playing it up hardcore with the sound effects and filters and stuff so it seems like a ton. I'll wait to see her without all that stuff to decide if she's annoying or not.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Angela: I think the only way to keep our hands clean is just to stick with our original eight and not pick favorites.
Swaggy: What?! You're not gonna keep me safe?! Well I'm not gonna keep you safe! How you like that!

That's what she said, Swaggy.

E: God, Swaggy is the worst.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 28, 2018

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I feel like this entire computer theme is something they thought of 10 years ago, made all the props for, changed their mind at the last second, and then dug it out of cobwebs and said "uhhh... smart phones!"

I can't even remember the last time I saw a pinwheel of death. And I'm a Mac user.

edit: Oh my God, I'm so sorry! SamBot is amazing. I take it all back.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 28, 2018

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
SamBot is now my favourite HG.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
SamBot reminds me of Screech’s robot Kevin from Saved by the Bell.

Oh and I appreciate Swaggy C putting his name on all of his shirts, all HG’s should be required to do that for the first week or so until I learn their names.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Ok, Yoga Girl might be bad afterall. She went to outraged arbitrar of game moves real quick. Although its entirely possible Swaggy played that horribly if it was public knowledge that he had promised both Angela and Bayleigh safety and then gave neither of their groups it than maybe he really did poison the house against him. Who knows? Don't go promising people poo poo, Swaggy. Its Day 1.

Also I'm convinced BB casted someone named Bayleigh and someone named Haleigh just to gently caress with people.

Mahoning posted:

SamBot reminds me of Screech’s robot Kevin from Saved by the Bell.

SamBot is the most amazing thing since Christmas' scooter but really, this episode has me thinking no one at Big Brother has used a computer or seen technology since Y2K.

In fact I bet there will be a Y2K theme at some point.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Sambot is indeed amazing. I wonder what on the lot trailer they have her in controlling it.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I assume she's in the DR with a joystick and a monitor and she'll go "offline" when they need to get other people in there. But I'm just making an assumption.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Swaggy has way too much swagger this soon
NYPD cop guy is too much a NYPD cop guy and will get weeded out.

The hot women are ALL femme fatales and a throwdown will happen sooner than later.
I have no dog in that fight but I predict Bayliegh will come out on the bottom; too schemy right out of the gate.
Rachael Mark Two: Vegas Bugaloo's days are on the short list too.

I love love LOVE hick welder chick turned robot, I was keen to her even before her punishment.
She seems the most genuine in there and most likely to be pulled along as a goat.

Nameste girl will be insufferable when the moon falls out of the seventh house or whatever horseshit she will spew all Summer the longer she stays.

The dude bros are all dude bros and I have no opinion on how they will shake out; The cyber security guy seems the most "normal".

Scottie the D&D nerd will get bounced because people will parallel him with Ian and Steve at some point.

JC is Raef from Survivor with a personality... an annoying one but he already has more airtime than that dead weight. Maybe one of the dude bros will lock him in a jack shack as a goof.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


I hope the punishments for the rest of the season are as good as these first two, especially the robot :laffo:

Secks
Oct 10, 2002

The city is alive tonight

Robnoxious posted:

JC is Raef from Survivor with a personality... an annoying one but he already has more airtime than that dead weight. Maybe one of the dude bros will lock him in a jack shack as a goof.

I'm already thinking of the "usual" BB comps they'll have to modify to accomodate him (like the spin and bowling one).

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I don't know really know the physics are on it but it seems like he'd destroy the Wall as long as they could make it fit, considering they always seem to favor people with low centers of gravity and good core strength. Like everyone else should just jump off and save themselves the back aches.

I expected him to annoy me from his intro and the pre-show hype but he really didn't at all. One of the few.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jun 28, 2018

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

So do we trend Sambot or hold back and trend some obnoxious hamster like Rockstar or Nameste?
I don't wanna waste a vote on people I actually like if there are rules for only one win per person/season.
Plus, keeping them guessing is always a good plan.

I'd rather pocket the first few weeks of voting and throw them out to the expendables and get their hopes up exceedingly high and then watch as their world crumbles around them.

The last thing we need is another Jody stalemate that drags the season for unnecessary reasons.

Robnoxious fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jun 28, 2018

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

STAC Goat posted:

I don't know really know the physics are on it but it seems like he'd destroy the Wall as long as they could make it fit, considering they always seem to favor people with low centers of gravity and good core strength. Like everyone else should just jump off and save themselves the back aches.

JC will absolutely kill a traditional Wall Comp based on his stature just like James has but those comps are far down the road... that's near mid to end game poo poo.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
If JC is a superfan he could be amazing at emulating James' prank of hiding in a small space and then popping out unexpectedly.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Previously on Big Brother... Julie Chen forgot to download the updates for like 10 years.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

I wanna give Sambot a hug :(

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.
Big Brother is going all-in on their graphics this year.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

OMG I :love: SamBot so much. :neckbeard:

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Nameste is getting clowned... excellent.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Well that's definitely not an alliance I would have guessed at from first impressions.

But its like Day 3 so I look forward to it falling apart when Swaggy sees something shiny.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

STAC Goat posted:

But its like Day 3 so I look forward to it falling apart when Swaggy sees something shiny.
His own beaming reflection?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Seriously, this robot thing makes up for like 10 really bad Big Brother ideas. Because OF COURSE the HOH decides to nominate the robot and then has to have a teary emotional conversation with a robot in a closet.

If she doesn't win the first prize I just don't know what BB fans are thinking.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Tyler doesn't have the balls to go guns blazing Week 1... no one really does.
The "safe" noms will prevail with Haliegh as a side option if POV swings.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

THE SAMBOT NOMINATION PHOTO!

Tyler did the right thing, as sad as I am to see SamBot go up. Stay neutral, you've got that Bayleigh option in your pocket if the week plays out to make that a move you want to make. There's no need to make that decision this early, especially before POV. Cocky dumbasses like Swaggy and Cody do that and they never last. Generally the key to the first HOH is to use it to build numbers and cut deals and then get out of there with no one mad at you.

SamBot gotta get the app.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

STAC Goat posted:

THE SAMBOT NOMINATION PHOTO!
How ego crushing will it be if Sambot bounces next week and her photo on the memory wall will always be this for the remainder of the season?

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

STAC Goat posted:

Well that's definitely not an alliance I would have guessed at from first impressions.

But its like Day 3 so I look forward to it falling apart when Swaggy sees something shiny.

Swaggy is the only odd one there, and even then I figured he would wind up outside the "cool-kid" alliance and settle for whatever else he could get - props to him not waiting until he is dead in the water to connect with others. So far the two alliances have broken out largely in line with how they usually do. The cool kids will likely turn into the mean kids by the second eviction, and Tyler leaves them shortly after because he will be closer to people on the other side of the house.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I guess my expectation was that they'd follow suit with the last few seasons and form a big mega "group" that would include some of Haleigh, Bayleigh, Faysal, and maybe Swaggy. And probably JC. At least Hayleigh and Bayleigh seemed like candidates. But Winston seemed interested in dropping the "A" word already and going tighter. Most players are hesitant to that this early because there's tons of potential for blowup.

But yeah, I agree that Swaggy seems like he could annoy the cool kids and be the object of ridicule before being one of them. Or maybe there are no cool/mean kids yet. I mean, sure, all the pretty white people teaming up in HOH in Week 1 and picking which weirdos, old people, and poc to put up never looks good but we're making assumptions at this stage.

So like, we might be reading too much into it. Tyler clued into the fact that Winston's group were a bunch of the potential nominees. Its possible that's all it is. Winston trying to protect his vulnerable friends. Swaggy, Hayleigh, and Co doing their own thing because they're safe this week. Sam and Steve out on the ledge because one's a robot and one's an old dad. Who knows?

Kaidyn
May 22, 2009

What is there left to discover about donuts...?
I feel so bad for poor Sam. This is a really funny (later in the game) punishment, but it just completely obliterated her week 1 social game which is the most important week for creating relationships. Plus she has to be stuck in a room, by herself, for like 75% of every day which is a bit harsh. The other loser had to wear a funny costume. It was a really raw deal that wasn't thought out well by production at all.

rare bird
Jun 19, 2013

sam is my absolute queen and i would die for her determined by any circumstance

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

rare bird posted:

sam is my absolute queen and i would die for her determined by any circumstance

Did you log in to kik and use the CBS Messenger Bot to vote for her ten times?

quote:

During the voting period, viewers will decide which houseguests they believe to be the best answers to these five questions:

Which Houseguest is most entertaining to watch?
Which Houseguest is annoying you the most?
Which Houseguest’s gameplay is most fun to watch?
Which Houseguest is the funniest?
Which Houseguest has you screaming at the television?


There are four ways to vote:

Via Facebook: By sending a message at Facebook.com/CBS or in the Facebook Messenger application;

Via Twitter: By sending a message at twitter.com/CBS;

Via Skype: By calling the CBS Messenger Bot; and

Via the Kik app.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Well how else are they going to steal all your info and sell it to foreign governments!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kidding... kinda...

I'm actually glad to see that they have different categories for like "your favorite" and who you hate. Because the "Trending" thing made it seem to me like someone could just be horrible and then next thing you know Aaryn gets a Diamond POV because she's the most trending person. I didn't trust BB/CBS to not see the flaw in that.

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