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I posted all of that already!
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Vince MechMahon posted:I think a lot of the most popular stuff in fanfiction, or at least in the past which is totally outdated and I'm loving old leave me alone, is stuff that's kind of built on being relationship misery wanking. Stuff like Whedon. Where the instant anyone is happy horrible things happen and nothing ever gets a loving chance to breathe and establish a baseline. I remember being incredibly frustrated by that watching stuff like Buffy. Not to the point I wrote fanfic but I get it.
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May 14, 2021 07:58
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Bendis had stark and gamora gently caress more people need to be loving these are super powered beings and gods. It’s like saying there’s no banging during the olympics. Completely unbelievable. Bendis also made it a point to show that Superman fucks. Brian not at all concerned about horny jail.
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May 14, 2021 12:35
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Man, people lost their minds over Unthinkable when it came out. Some of them because they thought Doom wouldn't... murder... a person?
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May 14, 2021 13:09
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More they thought he wouldn't murder one of the few people he deems worthy of his affection.
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May 14, 2021 13:10
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Gaz-L posted:More they thought he wouldn't murder one of the few people he deems worthy of his affection. That was the entire point though. He had crossed a line. It's in the name of the arc even!
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May 14, 2021 14:29
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a suit of woman-leather is a gross and dumb idea
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May 14, 2021 14:33
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Vince MechMahon posted:That was the entire point though. He had crossed a line. It's in the name of the arc even! Many were also the people who think that Doom cares about honor as opposed to the appearance of honor.
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May 14, 2021 14:50
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Squizzle posted:a suit of woman-leather is a gross and dumb idea In retrospect, I think it's mostly this. It's the sort of gross that you'd normally get out of '90s Avatar, not Mark Waid writing Doctor Doom.
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May 14, 2021 17:04
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it was dumb because doom decided to abandon all of his technology.
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May 14, 2021 23:04
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Huh. I thought I remembered it being a lot rougher looking, more Hills have Eyes. That just kinda seems like his regular armor, but beige and with stitching. Oh well, thanks for finding that for me!
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May 15, 2021 05:01
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Yeah Mike Wieringo was a fantastic, fantastic artist but almost everything he drew had a very sleek, warm, fluid feel to it. He was probably not the best choice to convey a suit of human skin, although tbh I feel like the best choice about suits of human skin is just not conveying them at all.
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May 16, 2021 00:51
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Leinil Francis Yu could probably have drawn the hell out of a suit of armor made of human flesh. Steve Dillion too, and keeping the normal Doom mask handily get's around his biggest weakness as an artist.
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May 16, 2021 00:57
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May 16, 2021 02:00
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I feel like that was just Waid trying to keep up with the times. The Ultimates seemed like one of those things, like Liefeld art, that had a huge cultural impact on comics for a time.
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May 16, 2021 04:45
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Open Marriage Night posted:I feel like that was just Waid trying to keep up with the times. The Ultimates seemed like one of those things, like Liefeld art, that had a huge cultural impact on comics for a time. Waid wrote a whole *thing* in his series pitch/"manifesto" about how he's tired of everyone writing Doom as this noble soul when he's really a dirtbag who pretends to be noble: quote:The truism that Victor von Doom is, despite his villainy, a noble person is absolute crap. A man whose entire motivating force is jealousy is ridiculously petty, not grandly noble. Yes, Doom is regal and yes, whenever possible, Doom likes to act as though he possesses great moral character because to him that's what great men have... [but Doom] would tear the head off a newborn baby and eat it like an apple while his mother watched if it would somehow prove he was smarter than Reed. Waid's first issue of FF came out the same month as the sixth issue of Ultimates (August 2002), and I always thought of it as a companion piece to Morrison's handling of Magneto -- the reveal of Magneto-is-Xorn didn't drop until a few months after Skin Armor Doom, but Waid and Morrison were friendly at the time, and Morrison's "Morrison Manifesto" which contains the Magneto pitch would have been circulating months before Waid wrote his own manifesto. I guess on one level you can just look at "skin armor" and "Hulk trying to eat Freddie Prinze Jr. and rape Betty Banner" or whatever as part of an "edgy" zeitgeist or whatever, but any sort of Authority/Ultimates zeitgeist that existed seemed very much to be an attempt to make superheroes "serious" by making them feel more like 'the real world' (for some definitions of the real world) and Waid's whole arc of Doom using magic spells and skin armor and literally traveling to Hell and eventually the Fantastic Four going to Heaven to resurrect Ben Grimm with Jack Kirby's blessing feels like the opposite of "making things less comic booky". If anything, Waid/Morrison's respective runs feel like a 9/11 slash build up to the Iraq Invasion reminder that some people are actually not good people and as dril would say years later, you do not have to "hand it" to Doctor Doom because he cried on 9/11, despite repeatedly (often successfully) attempting to use terrorism to destroy skyscrapers in Manhattan and other various crimes against humanity. Whether you are part of the Bush administration or had a Marvel Superhero Secret Wars action figure, crying at one funeral/tragedy or giving a high minded speech doesn't actually make up for your actions. Which doesn't seem like an "Ultimates" type of concept at all.
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May 16, 2021 05:40
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That makes much more sense. Reminding everyone that Magneto and Doom are bastards did happen relatively close together.
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May 16, 2021 07:00
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Yeah though neither of those stuck. People like Doom and Magneto too much and the attempts to make them utterly villainous always fall flat. Like people hated how Doom's last series ended. Now Ewing has him in Guardians where he's acting like a jerk, but not someone who killed an entire universe and will never do anything good again.
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May 16, 2021 07:33
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Magneto is just flat out better as a hero. And as much as I like Doom's moments of flirting with reform he's absolutely better as a villain. Bastard Doom is the best Doom.
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May 16, 2021 08:09
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You can have an ostensibly well-intentioned character who is prone to fits of hypocritical genocidal rage stemming from personal tragedy and a cynical outlook backed up by the entire real world history of humanity and you can have a rat bastard villain who will often do the "right" thing because it is also the most self-aggrandizing thing, and a way to get one up over his nemesis actually when i put it like that doom is basically lex luthor except with a deeper appreciation for theatrics and a less interesting target for his obsession
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May 16, 2021 08:23
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X-O posted:Magneto is just flat out better as a hero. And as much as I like Doom's moments of flirting with reform he's absolutely better as a villain. Bastard Doom is the best Doom. Post Secret Wars Doom will forever be my favorite version of the character.
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May 16, 2021 08:40
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One fun Doom moment is in Infinity Gauntlet when everybody's disappearing and Doom says something like 'these are MY people disappearing and none should dare tamper with what belongs to Doctor Doom' so even his altruistic act is filtered through his utter selfishness and Doom also makes his own play for the Gauntlet because of course.
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May 16, 2021 15:28
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Rhyno posted:Post Secret Wars Doom will forever be my favorite version of the character. Infamous Iron Man was really, really good.
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May 16, 2021 18:59
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Skwirl posted:Infamous Iron Man was really, really good. It was and so was Iron Man. It was the best work Bendis did in ages.
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May 16, 2021 19:05
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Since this started because of Waid’s Doom. His appearance in Waid’s Daredevil was good. They even redo the classic body swap. A move I was happy to see pop up again in the latest issue of Guardians of the Galaxy to great effect.
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May 16, 2021 19:58
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May 16, 2021 20:58
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Rhyno posted:It was and so was Iron Man. It was the best work Bendis did in ages. Yeah, I loved his work on Doom and Riri was a great new character. I think that for all the flaws Bendis has as a writer, he writes young people better than a lot of people his age.
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May 16, 2021 21:27
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How Wonderful! posted:Yeah, I loved his work on Doom and Riri was a great new character. I think that for all the flaws Bendis has as a writer, he writes young people better than a lot of people his age. I think it's partly because his kids are clearly huge in his life and are pretty young Bendis seems like a good guy
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May 16, 2021 21:30
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Rhyno posted:It was and so was Iron Man. It was the best work Bendis did in ages. Also some really cool David Marquez art. Really glad I read that before they had him do Civil War 2.
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May 17, 2021 05:35
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So yesterday they announced the new team taking over black panther after TNC but has there been any word on who is taking over Cap?
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May 19, 2021 18:02
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site posted:So yesterday they announced the new team taking over black panther after TNC but had there been any word on who is taking over Cap? Have they announced that TNC is leaving Cap?
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May 19, 2021 18:07
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May 19, 2021 18:10
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Ahh, well, doing a quick search I just see news about the United States of Captain America mini where one of the other Captain Americas Steve meets is a member of the Kickapoo tribe, and having a first nations person don the stars and stripes seems really loving tone deaf to me. https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/united-states-captain-america-character-reveal-joe-gomez I could see someone like that being inspired by Steve Rogers' bravery, but not wearing the costume or using that particular name.
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May 19, 2021 18:15
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Credit where credit is due, this month's Ultraman featured a Gomora that escaped Ultramans attacks by burrowing underground, and a Jirass that is the artificial creation of a Dr. Nikaido. They are now demonstrating a baseline familiarity with Ultraman.
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May 19, 2021 20:15
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Marvel announced a new Darkhawk series and a new Defenders mini. Didn't know it was my birthday today. Hmm.
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May 19, 2021 21:21
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Wow, I can't believe FB groups moved from memes about Darkhawk to memes about the Defenders!
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May 19, 2021 21:23
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X-O posted:Marvel announced a new Darkhawk series and a new Defenders mini. Didn't know it was my birthday today. Hmm. A new Darkhawk series about a new person in the Darkhawk armor. Which is an interesting choice.
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May 19, 2021 21:51
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It's a fine choice. There's multiple Raptors out there and having a new guy with the name lets people start from a fresh perspective because it's not like anyone but me and like five other people care about Darkhawk continuity.
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May 19, 2021 21:54
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howe_sam posted:A new Darkhawk series about a new person in the Darkhawk armor. Which is an interesting choice. didn't they just bring back darkhawk like 6mo ago. were the sales that bad
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May 19, 2021 21:54
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That was a one issue anniversary special.
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