Rhyno posted:

It'll happen eventually but that was clearly an editorial mandate that span out of the ongoing Fox and DIsney drama at the time. I doubt that was a major component of Rick's plans. It felt very shoe horned in.

pubic works project posted:

Yeah it was in the first couple issues of the second Uncanny Avengers series.

X-O posted:

The Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch thing is actually just an undoing of a retcon more than just a retcon. They weren't originally Magneto's kids and their origin has always been tied to High Evolutionary in some way. I kind of like how freeing it was for them personally, and especially Pietro, that Magneto was not their father.

FoneBone posted:

Re: extermination—what about that story from a few years ago where the original X-Men returned to their time but found out they couldn’t go back because “the timeline” or whatever had already replaced them? Did that get retconned?

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, Dan.

https://twitter.com/DanSlott/status/1138054282371043328

If you ever wanted to see Twitter form like Voltron and dunk on Slott, now's your chance.

X-O posted:

I was wondering how they were going to approach History of the Marvel Universe, but the framing device on the first pages instantly sold me.

radlum posted:

It was pretty mediocre, but made me laugh a couple of times. Wasn't a Marvel equivalent in development but wasn't actually made because DC did it first?

site posted:

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1165436005870182400

site posted:

Brian's the person who wrote so many angry paragraphs in defense of zack snyder and mos he literally got both topics banned from the movie thread right

Edge & Christian posted:

Conan isn't in the public domain, or at least Conan Properties International actively asserts the copyright and trademark for the Conan character. Apparently some of Robert E. Howard's original stories fell into the public domain because they hadn't been reprinted/filed for a period of time in the 1970s (the same way the Fleisher Superman cartoons are in the public domain and can be freely reproduced, but Superman isn't in the public domain).

Which is to say you can reprint old REH Conan stories, but if you're creating new Conan stories, comics, movies, posters, statues, etc. etc. you still need the Conan Properties license. Which Marvel did not have from like 1999-2018 and therefore didn't make or reprint or reference any Conan comics, but Dark Horse did. Marvel literally announced they'd struck a deal with CPI last year.

Edge & Christian posted:

Technically Red Sonja is loosely based on/inspired by Red Sonya, an unrelated Robert E. Howard character. From the first solo issue of Red Sonja, Marvel credited it as "featuring the heroine created by Robert E. Howard", so she was considered part of the Conan the Barbarian Intellectual Property, same as Kulan Gath and other characters Roy Thomas and company created for the Conan comics. The same thing is true of most licensed comics, from Star Wars to GI Joe to anything else, just about the only exception I can think of is Marvel still having the rights to Red Ronin despite debuting in the Godzilla comic; maybe Toho had an unusual licensing contract?

Anyway, when they made the Red Sonja movie in the 1980s, Howard's estate split the Conan and Red Sonja rights into two separate holding companies to make licensing and promotion for each character easier, though Marvel's Conan license was grandfathered in to include Red Sonja. Once Marvel let the rights lapse, Dark Horse grabbed the Conan rights but presumably didn't want to pay up for Red Sonja, or maybe Dynamite outbid them? Regardless, Dynamite still has the Red Sonja license.

Rhyno posted:

About time Ike got kicked to the fuckin curb.

site posted:

e2: on the flip side, i hope feige doesnt try and make marvel comics into the side adventures of the mcu

Edge & Christian posted:

Edge & Christian posted:

I don't remember this, but I also don't fully understand how this would work?

Literally the first issue of Alias guest stars Captain America (an Avenger). Carol Danvers (an Avenger) becomes a supporting character within a few issues. Scott Lang (an Avenger) becomes a supporting character not long after. The entire Avengers team is referred to consistently and appears in flashbacks throughout the final arc of Alias, which ends about a year before Bendis takes over the Avengers.

And then when he takes over the Avengers, he almost immediately adds Luke Cage to the team.

Was the logic that if he 'couldn't' use the Avengers in Alias, that he'd put A-listers on the team so he could use the C-listers in a hypothetical follow-up Alias book that wasn't the Pulse? I'm legitimately confused.

Skwirl posted:

I seem to remember hearing Fear Itself was originally supposed to be a much smaller Thor/Captain America crossover that got massively expanded after Matt Fraction's original pitch. Is there any truth to that? If so I kinda wonder what his original idea would have looked like.

Skwirl posted:

Kinda sorta in the Gillen/McKelvie Young Avengers except not at all. They were work friends then Speed vanished mysteriously, then a weird mystery person dressed like Patriot kissed Prodigy and Speed suddenly bodyswapped in and then freaked out and told Prodigy he wasn't into dudes. said he was moving too fast.

Phone posting so I can't inline it, but here's the relevant pages

http://imgur.com/a/sw8qtXT

Wanderer posted:

I could swear there was another issue at some point that further established Prodigy/Speed.

Edge & Christian posted:

JMS and Loeb pitched World War Hulk as the big 2006 Marvel crossover event, but it was way more basic "Hulk gets shot into space, takes over all of space off-panel, and comes back with an invading force of a million Hulks! The Fantastic Four fight Skrull Hulks! The X-Men fight Shi'ar Hulks! Thor fights Saturn Men Hulks! Daredevil fights... flips through OHOTMUDE appendix Rigellian Hulks!

A bunch of people were not enthused for this story and Millar/Bendis counter-pitched Civil War, which is obviously what they went with. JMS passive aggressively bitched about Civil War in all of his tie-in books, and Planet/World War Hulk rolled downhill to Greg Pak, who had basically just written some fill-ins and mini-series prior to the assignment. If it wasn't going to be the event of the year, Loeb wasn't interested in it.

Once World War Hulk was a big hit, Loeb remembered how he'd wanted to do Hulk after all, and obviously his run was a murder mystery with a ton of big name guest stars, because that's mostly what Loeb writes.

FoneBone posted:

i'm in, very happy to see Gillen returning to the Marvel Universe for the first time in... 5 years? his last was the Secret Wars: Siege mini, right?

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, he was cagey when asked about it from what I recall. It's entirely possible that he, like unfortunately a lot of people, didn't read Future Foundation.

site posted:

They didnt, but Julie and Rikki got together in FF and due to North's previous handling of Doreen and Nancy and the fact that his power pack was announced when FF and Julie/Rikkis story hadn't even been a thing yet I doubt Rikki will show up

Kieron Gillen posted:

It’s been a while. I just checked, and by the time Eternals 1 drops, it’ll be over five years since I took lead on a Marvel Superhero book (Siege, during Secret Wars, for the records). I took a break. I was burned out and wanted to do other stuff, mainly my own. What lured me back?

Partially as it has been five years. I’m not burned out any more. Planting clover for a while your superhero bit of your brain works. Plus, I’ve kind of been missing it a bit. Seeing old peers and people who came after me tear things up is a delight, and you do get an itch to get involved.

Secondly, and most importantly, it’s always the chance to do something different, something I haven’t done yet. As in, taking a set of characters who’ve been a way for a while, deconstructing their engine apart, and re-assembling it and unleashing it.

Thirdly, Esad Ribic. I’d said yes before Esad jumped aboard, but my yes changed to YES! the second he did. I expect some YES! yelping from you lot when you see more. It goes without saying it’s good to be working with Matt again, and he and Esad are just magical together. Clayton has yet to escape me, but I’m especially interested to see what he does with the lettering challenge of the book.

Clearly, there’s going to be a lot more chat about Eternals down the line. Here’s the quote I gave for the press-release…

"I said if I was ever to do a book again at Marvel, it would have to be something I've never done before. This is exactly that. This is me teaming up with literally my favourite artist of the epic, taking one of those lightning-storm Kirby visions and re-making it to be as new as the day it was forged,” Gillen said. “While Esad makes whole worlds on the page, I'm applying all the skills I've developed when I was away. It's a lot. It's everything. There's enough scale packed in here that I believe that when you look at the comic, you'll see the pages slightly bulge. Essentially 'Eternal' has to mean 'never going out of style,' which means we're aiming for 'instant classic.' Also -- fight scenes, horror, human drama, emotions, explosions. Comics!"

…which has me laughing at myself. People always ask me for quotes at the end of the day when my brain is fried and my resistance to my own nonsense is low.

Key facts: it’s a clean, accessible book. It’s set in the Marvel universe, and will impact it hard, but it’s also designed to be picked up by anyone and enjoyed. Plus it’s very much me trying to bring to bear the skillset I’ve developed when I’ve been away (especially from WicDiv and DIE) and a whole bunch of other things I’ve been chewing over, in terms of things one could do.

Suffice to say, a huge bible document is involved, as I can’t help myself. In this case, I really can’t. One of my things I’ve tried to be doing more with my work is to do the stuff only I would consider doing, and there’s a lot of that here. Issue 3 has something so offkilter I’m even giving myself side-eye.

I think you’ll like this. Out November. Speak to you retailer. More press soon.

TwoPair posted:

Charles Soule had the Supreme Court make it legal for vigilantes to give testimony in court without removing their masks


Both Civil Wars have basically the same idea at their core (those being "maybe these superhumans should operate with some level of oversight" for 1 and "actually an early-warning system is a good idea when the world nearly ends every other week" for 2) and both go south because the status quo needs to be upheld and so a bunch of heroes get real stupid and use take those good ideas and warp them into justifications to start being fascists.

Cartridgeblowers posted:

What was the Rocket/Groot epilogue in Guardians this week referencing?

blast0rama posted:

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1318976102191202311

Codependent Poster posted:

This bugged me with Juggernaut this week. Xavier says Krakoa is for mutants only so Cain isn't welcome. But there are humans there for sure, and relatives are welcome there.

Yvonmukluk posted:

So, Vulpes is doing Pacific Rim: Marvel edition.

I'm interested.

KaosMachina posted:

On the one hand, KiB is fun. Like, it feels like the goal is "Make a big fun punch-em-up with Venom as the focal character", and... sure, okay, I'm down for that.
On the other hand this is WWE-tier storytelling on display on top of glaring continuity errors.

KaosMachina posted:

Sentry should be red, but I guess they thought that whole plotline wasn't particularly important?
And they have the wrong Cable when the X-Men show up, too.
I feel like there's another one I've forgotten (I haven't slept much) and I may have oversold it, but these seem like things you'd pick up
Then again... gestures vaguely at Hazmat

edit: also, given how the entire page is a reference to Seige and there's a new euro-team I wonder if we're gonna get Ares