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Jerusalem posted:When Jesse made the deal with her, if he reneged then his soul would belong to her, which basically put ownership of it into her temporary possession even if it was still "in" him. When she found out he had Genesis, she made a deal with the devil to pass over possession of the soul to him, though it was only to be collected upon Jesse's death if (and only if, as far as I can tell) Jesse killed her. Basically so she could hold that over Jesse and ensure she stayed alive when he returned fully powered up again. It's not particularly fair, since the Devil gets his soul by proxy, but that's why you don't gamble with your soul I guess! Okay but then she said the terms of the deal was fulfilled and the voodoo cloth burned so the contingent contract should be no longer valid, and anyway, I mean, part of the soul was in the possession of The Grail anyway when all of these deals were made, so... Actually just nevermind, I already know it's just bad, but good attempt J-Ru
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Jesse was making Gran'ma suffer for everything she did first. She held her immortality in her hands and burned it.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:So Hitler died and went to Hell, but when he leaves Hell he's alive again? I get Eugene because he never actually died he just got zapped there by Genesis. Also why does the Angel of Death serve the ruler of hell? Shouldn't she be bouncing between heaven and hell?
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Sub Rosa posted:Okay but then she said the terms of the deal was fulfilled and the voodoo cloth burned so the contingent contract should be no longer valid, and anyway, I mean, part of the soul was in the possession of The Grail anyway when all of these deals were made, so... Actually just nevermind, I already know it's just bad, but good attempt J-Ru She made a side-deal involving the soul when it was in her possession, once it went back to Jesse after he used The Word to make her release him, the terms of the deal still stood since it was legally made by the posessor of that soul (at that time). If anybody is gonna be good at shady but technically legal deals involving stuff that isn't really yours to begin with, it's gonna be Satan! v  v
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Jerusalem posted:She made a side-deal involving the soul when it was in her possession, once it went back to Jesse after he used The Word to make her release him, the terms of the deal still stood since it was legally made by the posessor of that soul (at that time). If anybody is gonna be good at shady but technically legal deals involving stuff that isn't really yours to begin with, it's gonna be Satan! v Yeah but I could also see her releasing the blood compact would itself basically nullify the contracts she signed over with temporary ownership of his soul. Sub Rosa posted:I mean, part of the soul was in the possession of The Grail anyway when all of these deals were made, so... Possession is 9/10ths of the law! But yeah, its... weird and a bit confusing.
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Not the whole soul. The Grail only had control of a fraction. I can't remember how small it was exactly, but I think it was just 10%, yeah? So I guess Satan would only have ended up with 90%.
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If I remember right he asked the guy he hijacked what the barest possible minimum he could remove would be and it was something like 1%?
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Open Source Idiom posted:Not the whole soul. The Grail only had control of a fraction. I can't remember how small it was exactly, but I think it was just 10%, yeah? Or alternatively Satan would get it all, but would have to go collect 10% of it from The grail. But you'd think satan could just take what he wants in the first place. He seems to like signing deals though.
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Plus what were the odds Grandma would have held up her end of the bargain and actually released Jessie? I'd say 0%, it would never happen without the word.
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I just read the spoilers for the comic. HUH.
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Zaphod42 posted:Or alternatively Satan would get it all, but would have to go collect 10% of it from The grail. I don't recall when this was but at some point he also answered to allfather, irrc.
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Just binged through the third season and read the last couple pages. Man, it's kinda annoying that you can see the budget constraints and they've really taken some liberties with the characters and stories but I'll be damned if it's not a ton of fun to watch. Hope they get to keep doing what they're doing, maybe with a bigger budget. TC's "death" was really sad tho, I really started to like him. Man. Funny how they completely turn around most characters compared to the comic but still keep them pretty close to the books.
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Sep 12, 2018 11:43
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When should we expect word on if this gets renewed?
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I hadn't heard anything about it being renewed for a third season until they had released the first promo picture
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I like how the credits show a little bit about each character when their name comes up. It's not always known right away what they're referencing to, either. What was the circus cannon all about though?
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Sep 12, 2018 18:00
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There was an ep where Angelville's rivals fired a cannon at Angelville
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The credits are really cool. There's an interesting effect to avoiding showing each actor's eyes. Still wonder every time why TC got an opening credit but Jody didn't.
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I honestly thought TC might join the gang for a bit and, while his ending was fitting, I wouldn't have minded it.
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davidspackage posted:The credits are really cool. There's an interesting effect to avoiding showing each actor's eyes. Still wonder every time why TC got an opening credit but Jody didn't. Hoover and Fluffernutter also get in the opening credits, and Hoover over Jody doesn't make much sense either because Jody was in a lot more scenes than Hoover iirc
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Sep 12, 2018 21:08
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Julie Ann Emory. Whatever her character's name is. Littlebottom? Featherstone.
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davidspackage posted:The credits are really cool. There's an interesting effect to avoiding showing each actor's eyes. Still wonder every time why TC got an opening credit but Jody didn't. Possibly just contract stuff. I think there might be rules about whose names show up in show intros? There's rules about most things. They are extremely stylized but essentially the same as a crawl of names near the bottom of the screen during intro/first moments of a show.
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precision posted:Julie Ann Emory. Whatever her character's name is. Littlebottom? Featherstone. I thought it was FarfigNewton.
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I am finally done with season 3. Here are my thoughts (please keep in mind that I know absolutely nothing about the comic -- also I'm not really sure how much I should spoiler, but I'll do my best): * Tulip is kind of an arrogant moron these days. I don't remember her being like this in the previous seasons, but I don't like it, especially since the consequences aren't particularly severe. Mouthing off to God just seems really stupid, in an uncool way. That said, Eugene outing her to the devil's assistant was hilarious. * Jesse having an obvious type is kind of something. I know Tulip is a blond white lady in the comic -- is Madame Boyd also a blond white lady in the comic? * Teenage Madame Boyd and adult Madame Boyd could not possibly look any more different from each other. Did they even try? Different face shapes, body types, complexions, etc. lovely casting. * Jody & TC are the best. TC's weird Confederate soldier sex roleplay with Jesse's grandmother was so delightfully gross, I loved it. Also, Jody just being a giant enforcer guy was cool & fun. * I've already said this, but the religion stuff is all so passé. It feels very teenage militant atheist-y and it bores me. It's the low-light of the show, imho. * Cassidy being seduced by Eccarius is one of the hottest things I've ever seen in my life, although it kind of bugs me that it's impossible to tell whether he got evil-vampire-mind-controlled or just regular-seduced, and we'll never know now because Eccarius is dead.  
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There was no Boyd in the comics.
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Davros1 posted:There was no Boyd in the comics. Yeah the show and the comic are very divergent. Like there's a lot of the same characters, and the plot is informed by the comics, but they are very separate.
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JossiRossi posted:Yeah the show and the comic are very divergent. Like there's a lot of the same characters, and the plot is informed by the comics, but they are very separate. Comics Jody would've killed the gently caress out of TV Jody, and TV Jody was a badass
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Jesse has fantastic taste imo But yea teen and madam Boyd looked nothing alike
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Just watched the finale. Glad they kept the bit with Jody getting hit with a plan with nails in it and his response.
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Took me a while to finish as I found the first few episodes a bit of a drag but the whole series turned around for me with the introduction of the horrific All Father (almost as impactful as that meat guy in the first series). I also wish they went into more Cajun /swamp spooky voodoo and maybe a bit more farcical with Hitler but in all I was pleasantly surprised to find the series ended much better than it started Also the Cassidy subplot was really well done
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I wasn't sure about the Cassidy subplot at first because it's so different from the comic version, but by the end I thought they did an incredible job with it. This season was so much better than the last one. I'm pretty excited for season 4 now (knock on wood).
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Yeah the Cassidy plot was awesome
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Jerusalem posted:I'm pretty excited for season 4 now (knock on wood). Not been officially announced, but... https://twitter.com/bazbam/status/1063213306196955137?s=21
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Filming in Melbourne studios, apparently! https://tvtonight.com.au/2018/11/preacher-confirmed-to-film-4th-season-in-victoria.html quote:The shoot will also feature a Melbourne-based plotline, showcasing Victoria to a global audience via AMC network in the US.
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Joe Gilgun vs Australians. Gonna be amazing.
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Hell yes. I had given up hope on a season 4.
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Where was Masada supposed to be in the comics? I can't find mine.
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Pretty sure it was in France.
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