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chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


I’ll play

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chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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I have not bothered to keep ~*~TRACK~*~ of any goings on so far

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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SalTheBard posted:

The thread reopened at 10pm CST. I wonder what I could've been doing? Maybe loving sleeping.

How dare you sleep

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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merk posted:

More like Clowns of Salem am I rite

:drat:

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


SalTheBard posted:

I'm not allowed to be shocked by 3 deaths in a night?

I signed up not expecting to play, got in right away and made one joke phase post before thread locked. I made 2 posts and went to sleep. This somehow makes me scum?

Save it for the defense phase

##vote sal

Okay now you can defend yourself

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


SalTheBard posted:

There is literally no point to me being in this game because I'm either going to get NK'd or roleblocked or worse busdriven to where I can't trust my results. So thats why I'm saying there is no point for me to be in this game anymore.

This is every game of mafia. Folks have to claim sometime. Also the witch was the bus driver, so there’s that. I don’t remember the rest of the roles too well but I assume there may be a doc around and iirc there is no guarantee of a RB anyway.

quote:

I'm not having a meltdown

You kinda are.

Hal Incandenza posted:

This is a side of Sal I have never seen

Really? I like Sal a heck of a lot, but he does the “woe is me” thing any time his back is against the wall.

I believe Sal and will be putting in my vote for innocent.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

The three did not vote's could be afk's or just those who didn't understand the concept but it's worth pointing out:

In my defense I should have had about 15 more minutes to vote, mord :argh: But yes that’s on me and not great

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Atomic Soda posted:

chaos, why didnt you vote straight away when you made this post? it was after the majority on sal had been reached

I mean, I put Sal at majority so I was aware of that. It was a combination of being at work on a chicken plant floor and laziness really. I knew when I put the vote in so I knew I had a while still. I even left basketball yesterday early to come home and put my vote in. Not my fault Mord killed it an hour early.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Soda, what was the difference between myself and Hal, in your eyes?

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


PMush Perfect posted:

Do you.... not have a smartphone? This is suspicious as hell of a thing to say when you can literally shitpost on SA while making GBS threads.

##vote clord

I mean

chaoslord posted:

being at work on a chicken plant floor

I pretty clearly do, unless you think I'm going to have my personal laptop out on a plant floor, which, lol. But my battery died.

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This is a bad vote by PMush looking to hop on a bandwagon. Like what if I came back and said "Actually, yeah, right now I am using a non-smart phone"? And it still doesn't change that voting closed early.

##vote PMush

No one will believe this is a Real Opinion while I'm on the block for being a non-voter, but I think "the non-voters are suspicious" is off base. I don't think Scum would have skipped an opportunity to go under the radar. I think big changes of heart w/r/t Sal are more suspicious, but it's all WIFOM so who knows. Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, lets get these votes in so I can claim and we can get on to Trial 3. I got test cuttings this afternoon for Olive Garden and McDonald's is going to be taking my time basically all day tomorrow so since I'm on the block we need to get the show on the road.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


PMush Perfect posted:

That is a lot of words that doesn't actually explain why you didn't just take five minutes while playing basketball to PM the mod and drink some Gatorade.

chaoslord posted:

But my battery died.

also we played outside and did not bring any water/sports drinks, which speaks volumes to how good at planning yesterday went for me

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Hal Incandenza posted:

I just woke up to 150 posts, why Soda, merk?

Hal Incandenza posted:

OK now that I have read I can see it being AS. ##vote AS

What did you see, hal?

Hal Incandenza posted:

What is guiltier than that

:agreed:

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Atomic Soda posted:

hal is also suss with the sal train, non voting and the lurking, but given those posts i think you are a better target

fair enough

Atomic Soda posted:

who are the big change of hears w/r/t sal that you find suss? sorry if you've answered this later on. i think all town should vote in trials everytime it will help with assessing the big changes, not voting makes it feel like there is something to hide.

If I was too lazy to PM mord, do you really think I have bothered to look at this yet? Haha. Real talk, I was going to do it tonight but then I've spent my time applying for jobs instead. Going to bed after I post this but I'm gonna take a look at this in the morning before I head out to the McDonald's testing. Well, ok, first I'm going to make sure I PM mord. But then bed.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum



Just tired of chicken houses, still employed currently. Best time to look for a job is when you already have a job, etc.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


PMush Perfect posted:

I'm a medium.

Hm.

I think I'm going to take a page out of b-'s book here and prefer a no lynch.

It's tough - with no dead town players it's not super useful right now, but it could be handy later. Talking with Opop could allow you to confirm your role but that would depend on him being around and wanting to talk etc. :thunk:

Yeah, think I'm gonna punt on this one.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

Assuming AA's spy claim is real there should have been 3 actions last night without someone being jailed/blocked.

This didn’t all click for me until I got to this. I’m just going to restate everything to make sure I’ve got it all right.

N1: 1 scum visits to kill b-, 1 scum also visits arb1. We know one of the two random scum roles is janitor from N2. The scum who visited arb1 is definitely not janitor because they went to someone who wasn’t being NK’d.

N2: 2 scum visit humalong. He was janitored. Based on N1, there should have been 3 scum visits since the janitor is now active. Its an assumption that all 3 would act, sure, but looking over the “who would visit a non-NK target” roles, I don’t think any of them are limited so there is no reason to withhold. We know that soda was jailed and therefore couldn’t act.

##vote soda

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


PMush Perfect posted:

But framer would change everything. Because part of your cornerstone on the fake-claim is that Soda knew investigations would prove him right. If he's a framer and not a disguiser, then that claim is much less safe.

(Soda uses she)

“Changes everything” is a bit strong. The disguised claim isn’t really that much more safe. Her disguise would only last a day. If someone believed her at the time but later doubted and investigated, she would get caught out.

But say it is a framer for the other scum role. We know only 2 of a possible 3 scum acted last night*. Framer is a pretty strong role. Why would a framer act N1 but not N2? I think the simplest and most likely answer is that they couldn’t. Such as if they were in jail.

*: assuming you believe AA.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

we know janitor didn't use their N1 action when they probably should have

I can see a limited use power not firing off N1, as opposed to something with unlimited use. Have a harder time seeing the infinite shots withholding so early in the game. Still, a good point to consider.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

We all have the option of sending one private message per day to one other person

:eyepop:

Missed that one. That's very handy.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


IcePhoenix posted:

Apologies to all, I was out Friday and most of Saturday and then Sunday one of my friends convinced me to pick up No Man's Sky and welp.

Catching up on the thread now, I won't let it happen again.

Just imagine having fewer posts than me over any stretch of time, smh smh

just kidding, it happens

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Atomic Soda posted:

got a job interview tomorrow morning v nervous, gl to you on that front also chaos

Good luck! And thanks! I have an offer that I countered because I didn't like the title or salary they offered. I'm expecting that we won't meet terms, but I've got a phone interview elsewhere on Thursday so hopefully that ball gets rolling.

In the mean time I'll just keep visiting chicken plants with my current job.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Mordiceius posted:

Get your votes in to me.

No :colbert:

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Morning everyone. Agree with Arb it’s probably full claim time. I sent my role into Sal so I can wait for him or claim first, whichever.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

With ww dead I doubt pmush was lying about their med role so that takes up one of the confirmed random town slots.

I think it's about time for the inquisition, before Sal get's too far into what was pm'ed to him or the people who've already claimed post their info. My role takes up one of the slots

Just to confirm, you mean you take up one of the three random slots? Don't need your role now, but if that's the case I know someone who I believe has to be scum based on the other claims (assuming we believe everyone etc etc)

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Beetphyxious posted:

sorry y'all i've been fairly absent from this game because i've not been able to get my head into it. i'm here, i'm present today (well about to go to bed actually) and i'm town

Would be nice if you could claim before you go to bed! 7 alive / 2 scum in a semi open setup gives us the ability to really focus in on impossibilities from here in. You/Me/Hal are the publicly unclaimed (well, arbc2, but if AA Is town he can't be scum), and I've got my claim into Sal

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


So... beet scum then?

Hal do you want to go ahead and claim?

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Cool, I will go ahead and claim then. I'm the veteran. I believe that means IP/Beet must be the final scum. Consider the town list

Jailor - Hal
2 Town Investigative - May be Investigator, Lookout, Sheriff or Spy. - Sal[/] (lookout), AA (spy)
1 Town Protective - May be Bodyguard or Doctor. - ArbC1, bodyguard
1 Town Killing - May be Veteran or Vigilante - chaoslord, Veteran
1 Town Support - May be Escort, Mayor, Medium, or Transporter. b-, Mayor
3 Random Town - May be any Town role, as long as unique roles do not occur more than once.
Pmush, Medium
Mr Humalong, ????
ArbC2, Unknown now but confirmed due to AA's spy, and his claim earlier was that he was in one of these three slots.

That leaves IP (vig) and Beet (?) on the outside looking in with no room to be in the 3 random town.

[b]##vote IcePhoenix

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Balls, formatting mafia edit:

chaoslord posted:

Cool, I will go ahead and claim then. I'm the veteran. I believe that means IP/Beet must be the final scum. Consider the town list

Jailor - Hal
2 Town Investigative - May be Investigator, Lookout, Sheriff or Spy. - Sal (lookout), AA (spy)
1 Town Protective - May be Bodyguard or Doctor. - ArbC1, bodyguard
1 Town Killing - May be Veteran or Vigilante - chaoslord, Veteran
1 Town Support - May be Escort, Mayor, Medium, or Transporter. b-, Mayor
3 Random Town - May be any Town role, as long as unique roles do not occur more than once.
Pmush, Medium
Mr Humalong, ????
ArbC2, Unknown now but confirmed due to AA's spy, and his claim earlier was that he was in one of these three slots.

That leaves IP (vig) and Beet (?) on the outside looking in with no room to be in the 3 random town.

##vote IcePhoenix

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Sal can confirm I claimed Veteran to him.

I believe PMush should seance me tonight if she has anything useful to share (or just to say hi! Hi pmush!). I think we have the game done and dusted but I believe I'm the only one who can also guarantee I'll live through the night.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


SalTheBard posted:

I watched Chaoslord. Nothing happened.

Why Chaoslord? I got a whisper from him and it peaked my curiosity.

After your post in thread I wondered if you would come. Makes me glad I did not alert! That was kinda a... silly thing for you to do but I’m glad it worked out.

IcePhoenix posted:

So if Sal didn't get shot then Chaoslord is either brave and didn't activate his PGO or stupid and just outed his claim as fake.

I wouldn’t call it particularly brave, if scum decided to come after me with multiple claimed power roles floating around, hey, more power to them. It’s worked out pretty well. I can alert tonight and PMush can tell me any secrets and there is no danger that I will die.

From your seat, IceP, I don’t think there is any possible way I’m town, though, unless ArbC2 is lying. I’d have to look over my claims chart but I think that’s the only way for you and me to both be town. And I don’t think he is lying.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Sorry about the formatting, beet!

Ok, that makes it easy enough. Two of the three of me, IP, and Beet are scum then since all three of us are trying to stand up and say "No I am the single town killing role!". Doesn't particularly matter which way we go about this to me. There just isn't room enough for all of us in the existing role set*. I suppose it's a bit more "pressing" to deal with the counterclaim so I can confirm myself as town so I'll move my vote to ##vote beet, but I just don't see how we can lose this one.

*assuming everyone else is being truthful. MrH being a mystery is still a thinker, but I can't come up with a solution that breaks any other way. If someone else is lying then all bets are off, but as I stare at it the only way that could work is if it involves ArbC2, and the only way that makes sense is if scum decided to janitor someone they weren't nightkilling for ???? reasons. Which of course makes no sense. So ArbC2 is very very very likely town. So yeah, extremely high odds that this group has the last two scum.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Here's the thing.

IP could at least be town.

One of CLORD and Beet have to be scum as Vet is one of the unique roles that cannot be duplicated.

Oh cool, even better. Yeah vote me or Beet today everyone.

For IP to be town I still don't know who would be lying among:

You, the Spy who led us to getting Soda
Sal, the lookout who was correct about an unannounced to the thread visit
Hal, the only person claiming jailer
ArbC2, the person who Sal said was visiting someone who was not the NK target, meaning that if they were scum they were the janitor visiting someone who wasn't the NK target which ?????

The only possibility for a town IP that I can think of is "MrH was actually the veteran and beet and I decided to counterclaim each other to try to get one of us across the finish line as a confirmed town", which would be a hell of a gambit to pull. But again, doesn't really matter. We still have one mislynch in play so as long as it is me or beet first, the rest will sort itself out.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Ice should just vig last likely svum

It’s extremely extremely unlikely that IP is actually a vig

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


1 mafia visited b- on N1

Three people visited b- on N1

Those three people were Kash, Solus, and ArbC.

Solus was scum. Kash is therefore town.

ArbC is now kash.

ArbC therefore is town.

Like, what am I missing AA? I really want to understand what you're driving at.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

Chaos as one of the only other people who seems to be counting roles and actions with me do you see anything I missed with my plan or does it sound good to you too?

For reference:

Overall it's fine. The one question I have is I guess I don't understand why Sal watches AA? Sal watching you would make more sense, wouldn't it? If we have a kill, we will be presented with "was killed by mafia/vigilante" If the kill comes from a vigilante, we know IP is town. He's the only one who has claimed the role and there won't be any question of it.

If the kill comes from scum, I'd rather Sal watching the doctor than the spy. I'd much rather make the doctor a harder target than the spy (sorry AA!) in case something is off. Gives the game a chance of going longer. Of course they may just kill Hal anyway.

Maybe the best play is to tell sal "Sal, watch whoever of hal/aa/arbc2 you want" to leave the scum guessing.

The only problem I see is that IP, if scum, will more than likely withhold and then he will use that to go "aha jail must have stopped the kill" but then you just lynch one of us and jail the other one and etc etc etc.

Of course I'd much rather not be in jail so I could alert and talk with my good friend Pmush :v: but I think your plan is the safest. :siren:PMUSH:siren: if you're still reading, if folks agree to this plan please seance Sal since he will be doc protected to give him any intel you may have that is unshared.

I don't see how we can lose this one tbh so I'm game for the original plan, as stated, because my only quibble with it (the watch target) is a minor thing in the scheme of "we are just playing through the motions right now"

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


ArbitraryC posted:

Oh also if we're going with this bug yourself AA. It won't be relevant if you die but if you live with Sal on you then sal can confirm you visited yourself and it'd remove the one wildcard option of ice claiming he forgot to use his vig role or something dumb.

Ahh yeah, see, that makes sal watching AA make more sense

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Yeah, the plan is solid and has the Slord Seal Of Approval

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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Beetphyxious posted:

like he even asked hal to go first to reduce one less potential conflict

I claimed before Hal :sun: Sal confirmed my whisper

Beetphyxious posted:

hey chaoslord, what were your night actions?

don't copy me either thx

Alerted N1 & N2

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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Beetphyxious posted:

ahh sal, the person who also then watched you and you didn't alert that night luckily :hmmyes:

I mean, if you're going to throw suspicion at sal, you might as well show how he could possibly be scum

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chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

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##vote ice phoenix

Not that there was any doubt about it being ice, but PMush seanced me anyway and told me humalong was the vig.

Hal can confirm he jailed me.

Good game everyone

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