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Paul MaudDib
May 2, 2006

"Tell me of your home world, Usul"

Gynovore posted:

I bought a Brother printer 35 years ago for my Commodore 64. (I'm very old). It was very solid and dependable.

I was kinda hoping for color, but every single color printer under $200 has tales of nightmarish setup.

color inkjet is super expensive unless you use them regularly enough for it to be worthwhile. As the ink dries out, the "cleaning cycle" is basically flushing a bunch of ink through the nozzle to get the clog out. That's fine if you use it every day, but it ruins it for most "occasional" users.

color lasers are way more finicky and with a cheap one you get a much smaller laser engine that's significantly less robust at a given size+price point. smaller more expensive cartridges (including B+W), less robust paper handing, and lower print quality.

I wrote a really long thing about it a couple pages ago when I looked at it, L2750DW vs the entry-level color laser vs L8900CDW workgroup sized unit... simple answer is probably buy the L2750DW and go get color prints if you need them, lol.

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smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Funny article from some dumb gently caress who signed up to HP instant ink and now realises just how dumb that was

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/02/home-printer-digital-rights-management-hp-instant-ink-subscription/672913/

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

smellmycheese posted:

Funny article from some dumb gently caress who signed up to HP instant ink and now realises just how dumb that was

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/02/home-printer-digital-rights-management-hp-instant-ink-subscription/672913/

IMO these always boil down to, "I paid no attention to this sort of thing, which has been going on for more than 20 years, until it happened to me in a specific situation. Someone should do something."

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It's in the Atlantic as well so all of their staff would fight to the death to keep the sort of light touch corporate oversight that got us to that point

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013



Are there any fixes for an inkjet that doesn't clean up any more? There's segments of lines missing at regular intervals, especially with black, with our Epson BX305, and even large amounts of the Head Cleaning option aren't making a dent in the problem. Can't tell if it's the nozzle, or if it's not even getting ink from the cartridge for the full duration of the head movement. The same thing happens when doing photocopies so it definitely seems head-related rather than software, but that's as far as I've been able to find out.

If not, I'm thinking of going towards a laser one, no moving parts and all that. Any brands to look out for/avoid? Cheapest brand seems to be Pantum, which is a name I haven't heard before, but Brother isn't too much higher

Serperoth fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Mar 3, 2023

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Serperoth posted:

Are there any fixes for an inkjet that doesn't clean up any more? There's segments of lines missing at regular intervals, especially with black, with our Epson BX305, and even large amounts of the Head Cleaning option aren't making a dent in the problem. Can't tell if it's the nozzle, or if it's not even getting ink from the cartridge for the full duration of the head movement. The same thing happens when doing photocopies so it definitely seems head-related rather than software, but that's as far as I've been able to find out.

If not, I'm thinking of going towards a laser one, no moving parts and all that. Any brands to look out for/avoid? Cheapest brand seems to be Pantum, which is a name I haven't heard before, but Brother isn't too much higher

I'd suggest setting it to print only in black and white and see if the problem persists. Inkjets will often use color even on a text document that looks plain black and white, so it would be worth seeing if forcing black ink only makes a difference.

That said, after going from an inkjet to a laser all-in-one early in the pandemic has made me see inkjets as only viable as photo printers. I print infrequently, and at this point I have yet to have to replace the consumables my printer came with, and it prints reliably despite that infrequent use. Brother has a good reputation, and I'd avoid going with an unknown brand because I'd be concerned about long-term support.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013



CaptainSarcastic posted:

I'd suggest setting it to print only in black and white and see if the problem persists. Inkjets will often use color even on a text document that looks plain black and white, so it would be worth seeing if forcing black ink only makes a difference.

That said, after going from an inkjet to a laser all-in-one early in the pandemic has made me see inkjets as only viable as photo printers. I print infrequently, and at this point I have yet to have to replace the consumables my printer came with, and it prints reliably despite that infrequent use. Brother has a good reputation, and I'd avoid going with an unknown brand because I'd be concerned about long-term support.

That was my line as well, laser seems much better for home use. I'll try the black/white thing, although even when selecting b/w photocopy the problem happens (although I'm not sure if b/w photocopy defaults to using colour). Could just try some test pages and see, but I have low hopes if I'm honest.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/1634977887274278913?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Serperoth posted:

Are there any fixes for an inkjet that doesn't clean up any more? There's segments of lines missing at regular intervals, especially with black, with our Epson BX305, and even large amounts of the Head Cleaning option aren't making a dent in the problem. Can't tell if it's the nozzle, or if it's not even getting ink from the cartridge for the full duration of the head movement. The same thing happens when doing photocopies so it definitely seems head-related rather than software, but that's as far as I've been able to find out.

If not, I'm thinking of going towards a laser one, no moving parts and all that. Any brands to look out for/avoid? Cheapest brand seems to be Pantum, which is a name I haven't heard before, but Brother isn't too much higher

Pantum is actually a first party brand made by Ninestar, the Chinese company that is one of the largest 3rd party consumable manufacturers in the world. Their line looks suspiciously like Brother's machines. Oh, and they also happen to own Lexmark.

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RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

gently caress Lexmark, itís garbage-tier (or at least was)

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