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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Hed posted:

If I buy something old but sturdy/enterprise with a JetDirect like a Color Laserjet 5550dn or 4600dtn can I run some software to also offer it up as an AirPrint device?

AFAIK you can use softwares like printopia or presto but those require windows or Mac(along with a pc always on), or a lantronics xprintserver but that cost a lot. If you need a hp printer with AirPrint/eprint the m4xx series is cheap and reliable(just slow). I have a m476dn (AirPrint works perfectly) and Im currently running on 0% ink since a year but it still prints fine.

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Define cheap, brother have plenty of picks for laser mfp in mono or color.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Pham Nuwen posted:

It's probably time for me to get a laser printer, after two recent trips to the public library to print forms.

I'd like a duplex-capable laser printer which can take OEM toner carts. It would be really nice if it had a scanner with automatic feed, too. Most of all, I don't want something that needs some bullshit HP App or whatever installed on my computer. If I can keep it under $200 that would be really nice, but could probably be persuaded to go over. Recommendations?

Somebody on page 1 mentioned a printer that scans directly to an FTP server, which would be neat...

Most workgroup MFP (aka non-poo poo all in ones) will let you scan to a shared folder(create one on your NAS or in a pinch on your pc) so no need for software to be on your pc. Brother are good for cheap laser MFPs. Software is a tad clunky.

Just try getting a printer with google print and AirPrint. That way you can use it on phones/tablets.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Heners_UK posted:

FOR FUCKS SAKE Google... You're killing Google Cloud Print? Thanks, from all Android users.

That article has some prime takes we are killing a device-agnostic remote printing platform because we added CUPS(and its shittastic device specific drivers) to chrome os. My printer still have AirPrint and hp eprint to fall back to but Im kinda pissed.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Volguus posted:

? What was that even good for? What would people (or you) would use that cloud print thing for? I got a lovely HP printer not too long ago and it has things like I could send an email to this address and it would print the document. WTF? Who in their right mind would want to do such a thing? What's the use case?

Printing from your android mobile without having to juggle between each printer vendor custom poo poo apps, print your stuff while on the move so by the time you get home its there, print directly from google web apps without having to setup poo poo on your incognito/kiosk pc, just to name a few. You could do most of them with hp eprint but not as cleanly.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Geemer posted:

If you ever figure out someone you don't like's printer email address you can sign it up for all sorts of newsletters or send dumb pictures.

HP ePrint has a whitelist mode where you set up a list of family emails to print and ignore the rest. No weird/unknown print yet in more than five years of ownership.

Volguus posted:

I hear all these "use cases" and I'm sorry, I just don't see it. I mean, it only takes 20 seconds to print something. I would never think that i need to print something while I'm away from the house for it to be "ready" . Or ... "having to juggle between each printer vendor custom poo poo apps," ? What apps? What vendors?

"print directly from google web apps without having to setup poo poo on your incognito/kiosk pc" Where is that kiosk pc we're talking about? An internet cafe? I suppose in some parts of the world they're still going strong, so i guess there's some value there. Maybe.

Nah, I'm still confused.


Both airprint(ios) and hp print services(android) require LOCAL LAN to work(i don't know about brother or other brands but i suspect they work the same), so if i wanted to go to say a theatre after work, instead of just print the tickets via cloudprint and pick them when i get home, i would have to open a VPN link and then print those. Some people don't like to print personal poo poo on work-owned equipment so i could print stuff from my work desktop with cloudprint without pissing off my infosec team. On my work laptop i just required to upload stuff to google drive and press print from there, no interaction with chrome or local os, no need to install whatever infernal concoction hp laserjets requires to work.

SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 22, 2019

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Volguus posted:

I suppose others didn't either since they're shutting down the service.

Google has recently killed its GCM platform, which was used by an awful lot of old google services. I suspect it's related. That and the fact that cloud print is a resource/dev overhead compared to just add cups to the chromeos image and pray for the best.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Freakazoid_ posted:

Now why would that be? I know we can just say "covid" but I wasn't aware this particular sector was hit. I'd have to guess more people working at home means more documents need to be printed at home?

It's like toilet paper, there has been a run on home office equipment that most brick&mortar stores weren't ready to cover. Eventually stock is going to refill but until then prices are going to be higher than norm.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Is there a current recommendation / consensus for a reliable all-in-one printer/scanner/copier? Or a "best available" given the current ~*all this*~ ?

Brother or hp are my common picks. If you say color or b/w I might even suggest a model....

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Oh, yeah, B/W, I ain't splurging on color

Hp m145 or m148 depending on the budget. The letters after the numbers indicate if if there is a duplex module(d), a integrated WiFi(w) or wired card(n)

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017


SourKraut posted:

So what are the current views on HP Laserjets? I currently have a HP multi-purpose Officejet that just died on me, and it seems like to get it repaired is going to cost almost as much as the printer cost me itself.

Since my wife and I print and scan somewhat often, but maybe not often enough to keep inkjets from having issues, I have been looking at some of the laser printers with both scan and printing options. Based on reading the thread I had been looking at Brother and Canon, but I saw that Costco just put this HP Laserjet on sale, and so I wasn't sure whether it would be a good buy or if it's still best to avoid HP products.

https://www.costco.com/.product.100652793.html

Seems decent, just be aware that there is a little bit of delay from sending the print to the printer spitting out prints that seems to be a bit slower than average on low end hp laser jet MFP

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