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Fatty Crabcakes
Jan 31, 2008

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drgitlin posted:

Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, itís not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was.
yeah, it's actually kinda difficult to get garbage to spontaneously combust

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

~death to capitalism~
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Salad Prong

lancemantis posted:

i don't know as a person that drove manual transmissions for years i don't think any type of transmission can make anything really all that much more fun that wasn't meant to be in the first place

manual transmissions should be illegal on new cars tbh.

Just put in a dummy reaction mode with some game controller rumble motors and speakers in the car that activate when someone wants to shift

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


drgitlin posted:

Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, itís not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was.

did you have a chance to take it for a spin in the rain/snow?

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003

Welcome to my ignore list, cretin. BAZINGA!


infernal machines posted:

did you have a chance to take it for a spin in the rain/snow?

It did rain a bit, the car was fine. Even the auto wipers worked. Iím dying to try one on a track at some point because I think thereís actually a really good driverís car in there. But the one I had was on winter tires and Iím also not going try and find a carís limit on the public road for obvious reasons, so thatís just supposition.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


i saw the bit about winter tires, but i didn't see any mention of rain or snow so i was curious.

no drainage issues in your test car then?

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003

Welcome to my ignore list, cretin. BAZINGA!


No, but we didnít have any truly bad weather during the time with the car.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


College Slice

here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap...1755.33.0_2.pdf

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017



fishmech posted:

manual transmissions should be illegal on new cars tbh.


Im glad your parents are dead

RoastBeef
Jul 10, 2008


Combat Theory posted:

Im glad your parents are dead

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

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Salad Prong

Combat Theory posted:

Im glad your parents are dead

they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001



Lipstick Apathy

Shifty Pony posted:

here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap...1755.33.0_2.pdf

thx pony good poo poo. when's the hearing/ruling?

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

tehehe


Combat Theory posted:

Im glad your parents are dead

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017



fishmech posted:

they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin

You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with.

You wanna bring forth a technical argument instead of constantly trying to piss of OPs then please do, otherwise your sentence and mine are the same level of thread contribution.

On a serious note I wish you and every other poster here a happy, peaceful long life.

Combat Theory fucked around with this message at Mar 22, 2019 around 23:30

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

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Salad Prong

Combat Theory posted:

You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with.

You wanna bring forth a technical argument instead of constantly trying to piss of OPs then please do, otherwise your sentence and mine are the same level of thread contribution.

On a serious note I wish you and every other poster here a happy, peaceful long life.

lol ops have no rights

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010


Combat Theory posted:

You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with.

You wanna bring forth a technical argument instead of constantly trying to piss of OPs then please do, otherwise your sentence and mine are the same level of thread contribution.

On a serious note I wish you and every other poster here a happy, peaceful long life.

but if youíre not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet??

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017



My Linux Rig posted:

but if you’re not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet??

I thought this was a drive through

Fatty Crabcakes
Jan 31, 2008

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My Linux Rig posted:

but if youíre not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet??
I can't speak for them, but I'm here to chew bubblegum and masturbate to weird stuff.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Shifty Pony posted:

here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap...1755.33.0_2.pdf

quote:

The SECís Reply makes clear that its effort to hold Musk in contempt relies on a radical reinterpretation of the Order that would impose sweeping restrictions to which Musk never consented. For example, the SEC asserts that tweets that touch upon broad subjects identified for illustrative purposes in the Policy are necessarily material. The SEC also asserts that any tweet which contains ďsubstantive information about Tesla and its businessĒ (regardless of how immaterial the information may be as a matter of law) requires pre-approval. Reply at 10. And the SEC shows, through its selection of ten tweets, that no matter how innocuous, how well known, or how removed from the subjects mentioned in the Policy, because the tweet concerns Tesla,1 the SEC believes Musk must have them pre-approved.

heís so hosed

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


College Slice

hobbesmaster posted:

heís so hosed

evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.

five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..."

that sur reply is a very angry document.

stirlo
Aug 12, 2007


Sagebrush posted:

You buy Audis lol

stirlo
Aug 12, 2007



🤐 imo

stirlo
Aug 12, 2007


My Linux Rig posted:

no thanks, Iím not sure Iíd feel safe in a car that routinely either automatically drives into trucks or spontaneously combusts


I wonít go near those death traps and I. avoid them as if they are an old Dell, note 7 or new HP laptop when theyíre not moving.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

Shifty Pony posted:

evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.

five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..."

that sur reply is a very angry document.
evilweasel got perma'd

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004



KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

evilweasel got perma'd

no i think they're still posting, even in this very thread!

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010




Shifty Pony posted:

evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.

five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..."

that sur reply is a very angry document.

well sure, I imagine if youíre confident in your argument then youíll probably be pretty calm

though wasnít the sec response fairly angry too?

My Linux Rig fucked around with this message at Mar 23, 2019 around 01:16

Fatty Crabcakes
Jan 31, 2008

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fishmech posted:

they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

there's a world that we know nothing about, that we can only imagine... and that is the world of books

Slippery Tilde

Shifty Pony posted:

evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.

five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..."

that sur reply is a very angry document.

i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose

RoastBeef
Jul 10, 2008


H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose

I enjoyed mic dicta. I'm glad I'm not nearly online enough to know what brought it down,

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull


KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

i wanted to actually drive the car before forming an opinion about it, yes, unlike the posters itt who openly brag about having never driven one and also not owning a car or having a license at all

teslas are pretty cheap to rent on turo so i invite each of you to do that and post your own polemic about it i guess?

drgitlin posted:

Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, itís not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was.

lol at this "you gotta test drive to have a valid opinion" angle you bazingas are pushing now. like, do you know that not everyone is a simpleton easily impressed by experiencing ev torque for the first time?

our judgement is based more on things like this: a colleague of mine had a model 3 ~delivery experience~ a few months ago. after the next rainstorm (it's been a wet winter in norcal) i checked their ride out in the parking lot. predictably, one of the two taillamp assemblies was sopping wet on the inside, because tesla doesn't know how to reliably seal things

and more importantly there's all horrendous safety issues, which (unlike seals) aren't a mere matter of poor execution but rather a complete failure of design philosophy. maybe the real engineers at tesla would have made a good product without ol' musky calling the shots, but with him they were doomed. elon: "it is forbidden to use mechanical linkages between door handles and door latches"

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

BobHoward posted:

lol at this "you gotta test drive to have a valid opinion" angle you bazingas are pushing now. like, do you know that not everyone is a simpleton easily impressed by experiencing ev torque for the first time?
drgitlin is a professional car reviewer

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


hey now, the front doors on the model 3 have a mechanical linkage for the interior emergency handles. they'll just probably break the window if you use them.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


Shifty Pony posted:

evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.

five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..."

that sur reply is a very angry document.

i think a lot of litigation docs begin with the angry tone and good editing removes it. here my guess, since these are good lawyers, is that they know what their client wants and this is what he wants.

also yeah the law is not on their side so thereís no citations just lots of It Is So

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



College Slice

Shifty Pony posted:

that sur reply is a very angry document.

i can say that the more they lean on bluster and fist pounding the more its an act and the moment theres scrutiny it all turning into bargaining. its kinda sad and just a waste of everyones time feeding ego

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose

yup

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

drgitlin is a professional car reviewer

wait, they pay him?

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

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Young Orc

drgitlin posted:

It did rain a bit, the car was fine. Even the auto wipers worked. I’m dying to try one on a track at some point because I think there’s actually a really good driver’s car in there. But the one I had was on winter tires and I’m also not going try and find a car’s limit on the public road for obvious reasons, so that’s just supposition.

It's supposed to be awful on tracks, because it limits your ability to do the fancy zooms to preserve battery

There was an article earlier some time about how it did worse than like a Tahoe or something

http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/t...awful-track-car

This isn't the article, but the S could barely finish a lap a few years ago. Tech is probably better, but also the model 3 is a worse car

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


that was an older model s, iirc and it tied with the heaviest car they had tested, the jeep grand cherokee

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

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Young Orc

infernal machines posted:

that was an older model s, iirc and it tied with the heaviest car they had tested, the jeep grand cherokee

Yeah, the question is how much the tech has improved VS. the fact that the model 3 isn't as good as the model S

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


it does better, because it's possible to disable the thing that keeps you from nuking the battery

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

THE REPUBLICAN DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON


Young Orc


Doesn't that mean of you try it, you're really messing the car up? Idk

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

Don't let the little fuckers generation gap you


it'll probably shithouse the battery given enough time, so your range would decrease, i don't know that anyone has done significant testing to find out how much. presumably the major thermal throttling is still in place though so you won't be able to push it until they catch fire, except when they do that on their own

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