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fishmech posted:suburbs exist for having low housing prices, while being close to civilization where jobs exist No, suburbs exist for having excessively large housing while being close to civilization where jobs exist. Communal areas within higher density housing closer to the city core, and along major transit lines make sense. Each person having a 2 hour commute so they can have half an acre of lawn and 6 bedrooms for 3 people, and half of every downtown core being parking can go gently caress itself. Nomnom Cookie posted:and I’d thought I was being ridiculous. oh well The solution to housing prices is removing the profit motive with government competition because it turns out apartments don't ROI for 30 years, so every major project is LuXuRy ConDoS with faux marble and a separate entrance for the 8 government mandated poor people units. TL;DR euthanize all landlords thanks for reading my blog
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Powershift posted:
This is happening somewhat as millennials want to actually buy housing near things, but it comes with a side of gentrification
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theflyingorc posted:This is happening somewhat as millennials want to actually buy housing near things, but it comes with a side of gentrification While gentrification is an issue that needs to be addressed, a lot of the areas being gentrified are extremely unhealthy, largely due to racist policies destroying their own tax base and racist companies refusing to invest in minority neighborhoods. California is working a rent control bill through which will somewhat curb gentrification, while also giving poor neighborhoods the opportunity to adopt a few mouthy white folks who will actually get listened to when they point out the local services are in severe disrepair, and the only grocery stores within an hour's walk are dollar stores that only sell canned food. It would be great to figure out a balance between the destruction of local culture and insular homogeneous communities, but steps towards that like school integration are fought tooth and nail by even the most vocal left leaning talking heads like Samantha Bee. Rent control goes a long way in that regard, but the damage has already been done, and housing is already extremely unaffordable to people in most minority communities. You just have to look up the gerrymandering NYC did to use federal low-income grant money to build fancy white folk housing in Hudson Yards to realize this problem isn't going to be fixed any time soon.  This image makes me sick to my stomach. TL;DR kill whitey
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Powershift posted:TL;DR kill whitey I'm Whitey and I apologise.
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if i'm reading this right, the outlined area is considered to be one continuous unit/division/whatever, and they built all the low-income housing named after famous black people as required by the grant way up at one end, and fancy white people housing at the other end, with a chain of nominally connected blocks wandering their way through the city so that they're actually not even remotely near each other?
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fishmech posted:suburbs exist for having low housing prices, while being close to civilization where jobs exist That’s row houses.
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I might be remembering wrong, but i think the Samantha Bee thing is based on the last possible charitable reading of what happened and was literally original published by the Daily Caller
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Sagebrush posted:if i'm reading this right, the outlined area is considered to be one continuous unit/division/whatever, and New York scammed the Federal government. quote:New York takes a rather liberal approach to drawing these lines. Empire State Development, the economic development agency for the New York state government, determines the boundaries for qualifying TEAs. Under state law, the agency has the authority to string together an unlimited number of census tracts in order to achieve the desired aggregate unemployment standard. Think of it as a form of creative financial gerrymandering. https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/04/hudson-yards-financing-eb5-investor-visa-program-immigration/586897/
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Sagebrush posted:if i'm reading this right, the outlined area is considered to be one continuous unit/division/whatever, and Yup. If you click the image it will take you to an article on it. quote:Here’s how these requirement works: EB-5 visa applicants must invest a minimum of $500,000 in a project within a designated geographic area called a targeted employment area, or TEA. To be eligible for this financing, a project needs to qualify as falling within a TEA—which is going to be either a rural area or a distressed urban area. For an urban area to count as a TEA, it has to meet a certain unemployment threshold (150 percent of national unemployment). Bonus: quote:Over the years, this cash-for-visas program has collected a curious collection of political friends and enemies. Despite the benefits it has showered on the Trumps and Kushners, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer might be the biggest defender of the EB-5 status quo in Congress. They have class solidarity, do you?
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theflyingorc posted:I might be remembering wrong, but i think the Samantha Bee thing is based on the last possible charitable reading of what happened and was literally original published by the Daily Caller The wording he used was mischaracterized, but the crux of his argument wasn't. Basically they wanted to bus poor kids to schools in rich neighborhoods and rich kids to schools in poor neighborhoods to level the playing field, and combine schools currently segregated largely by wealth and therefore race. Rich white people complained about the "logistics of driving their kids to school" and didnt mention race. quote:I read the newspaper for some reason, I can’t believe it’s still around, but it disheartens me to wake up in the morning and see that the Upper West side is divided. We are not divided, we are absolutely united in wanting what’s best for our children. Whether that means a bigger place for our children to learn, or wanting to keep it here, we are all united in wanting what’s best for them. So it's TOTALLY just about geography and traffic. TL;DR (inaudible) Powershift fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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fishmech posted:suburbs exist for having low housing prices, while being close to civilization where jobs exist but they're not close
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quote:The EB-5 visa program has come under increasing scrutiny in recent years, owing to a number of fraudulent real-estate schemes financed via investor visa dollars. In one notorious episode, two Vermont financiers built a resort complex—water park and all—using EB-5 funds, including $200 million that they misappropriated. They were planning a rural biotechnology campus before the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission brought the hammer down. The stink on this scheme rose so high that the federal agency that administers the investor visa program terminated the state’s EB-5 program. lol techbros gonna techbro https://jaypeakresort.com/ https://jaypeakresort.com/summer/disc-golf Powershift fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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neoliberal social policy that depends on targeted tax cuts and tax abatement zones always, always, always end up being gamed this way (which is why neoliberals support them, of course)
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Dunno why the exact idea of job in this thread hovers around things you strictly do in a city. If you work in the heavy industry, energy, mining, agriculture, off shore, naval industry or aeronautics you will very likely work in an installation that's isolated from any human residency and for good reason. Damning people for not living in a city because that's where jobs are is the same level of stupid as thinking a car designed for Californian summers can get you through the winter in Central Europe. Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Sep 23, 2019 |
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if ppl want to live far away from civilisation that’s fine as long as they stay there, the problem with cars is fuckos living in the suburbs and driving into the city, collectively taking up thousands of acres of space in parking
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People still falling for fishmech bad-faith posts itt
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it’s just fun to yell about cars being bad op
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Combat Theory posted:Dunno why the exact idea of job in this thread hovers around things you strictly do in a city. If you work in the heavy industry, energy, agriculture, off shore, naval industry or aeronautics you will very likely work in an installation that's isolated from any human residency and for good reason. I don't know why you're constantly defending suburban sprawl. Industrial areas being separated from residential doesn't mean those residential areas can't benefit from densification, specifically around mass transit. I don't know why society as a whole can't take a more ethical approach to land use, and perhaps more specific to North America, public common areas. That isn't to say every family shall be assigned 1 housing unit in a boring grey tower block, but living near your job shouldn't be a luxury. Infill mansions should be seized without compensation for higher density housing. Industrial areas should be serviced by mass transit, with rent controlled housing along the transit lines. This topic being discussed in this thread is usually focused on the "my self driving car will drop me off and drive home" aspect which is largely centered around the suburb-city commute. nobody's damning anybody for not living in a city. To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that i am persecuted whenever i am contradicted." TL;DR gently caress rurals, the sister loving fascist lovers jesus WEP posted:it’s just fun to yell about cars being bad op cars indeed bad
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jesus WEP posted:if ppl want to live far away from civilisation that’s fine as long as they stay there, the problem with cars is fuckos living in the suburbs and driving into the city, collectively taking up thousands of acres of space in parking Yes I completely agree with you. Sorry for the misinterpretation on my end.
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Remote-living idiot here. Just give me better public transit already.
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MononcQc posted:Remote-living idiot here. Just give me better public transit already. no, only car love car or leave
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MononcQc posted:Remote-living idiot here. Just give me better public transit already. i thought the whole idea about being remote was living wherever you wanted
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Boiled Water posted:i thought the whole idea about being remote was living wherever you wanted I meant remote as in "in a remote region" where I was born. This place is around 160k people, but public transit is mostly used for people who go to work and come back after, and usually very lacking for everything else. I.e. most bus lines end at 6pm on the week-ends, so better hope you never want to do anything aside from going to work. Mostly there's still the perception that public transit is for poors, not something that should be good enough and convenient to make even the well-off people want to use it.
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i resent being characterized as jumping into thread when i have been shitposting here for a while
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FAUXTON posted:but they're not close don’t use nuance with anime avatars and especially not fishmech
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TerminalRaptor posted:Thread mcas light blinks furiously you better believe I am activating my stick shaker
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MononcQc posted:I meant remote as in "in a remote region" where I was born. This place is around 160k people, but public transit is mostly used for people who go to work and come back after, and usually very lacking for everything else. I.e. most bus lines end at 6pm on the week-ends, so better hope you never want to do anything aside from going to work. get out of the Ottawa valley, that’s your problem
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Cocoa Crispies posted:don’t use nuance with anime avatars and especially not fishmech I thought nuance and pedantry was fishmechs wheelhouse
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tesla driver causes northwest valley crash that kills 1, injures othersquote:LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- Las Vegas Metropolitan police said one person died and several were injured after an accident involving multiple vehicles in the northwest valley. halt and catch red light
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Zamujasa posted:tesla driver causes northwest valley crash that kills 1, injures others Look, if you let old people on the roads, you're just asking for someone else to run a red light and hit them, then careen off into some nearby pedestrians. Tesla isn't to blame here.
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TheDarkFlame posted:Look, if you let old people on the roads, you're just asking for someone else to run a red light and hit them, then careen off into some nearby pedestrians. Tesla isn't to blame here. "Police said the driver of the Tesla, 32-year-old Gabriel Haas, was also taken to UMC, where he was being treated for injuries and investigated for impairment." i think that the 70 year old driver wasn't the one driving the tesla
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that was their point yes
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Zamujasa posted:that was their point yes derp i red good
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Nfcknblvbl posted:derp i red good better not cross a road near any teslas then
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Soricidus posted:better not cross a road near any teslas then even worse, i own one
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Nfcknblvbl posted:even worse, i own one yeah that’s what we heard.
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I've played sim city. just dense industrial next to dense residential plus a fire station why is this difficult
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