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Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET

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Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the brand may very well be the only worthwhile part of tesla

we know they're not very good at manufacturing cars, so why would you want the factories or designs?

is their patent portfolio worth anything?

i think they "open sourced" their patents, so theyre not worth much financially

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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if experts are so smart, why arent they accidentally rich like felon

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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use ecc ram op

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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if youre really really smart u quote ppl who died 70 years ago

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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boring company going to hallow out earths crust so cars can selfdrive directly to customers unimpeded by terrain features for $1

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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:gizz:

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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gently caress u mom u loving imbecile short

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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Qwijib0 posted:

at this point shouldn't all the drama be baked into the price by now?

Who's the investor that sees this and is "ok, now's the time to get out, this musk fella I don't know" :lol:

no investor reacts in 3 microseconds

it's all bots doing sentiment analysis on the news ticker, bots reacting to the bots, bots repricing their derivatives against the bots reacting on the underlying, and bots repricing the underlying in response to the bots repricing the derivatives, while market making bots remove liquidity due to uncertainty over the next ten milliseconds and unintentionally increase volatility further

iospace posted:

The stock market reflects one thing and one thing only: a company's ability to pay dividends. Nothing more, nothing less. AT&T has taken out loans to be able to pay dividends, otherwise its stock would crater (despite being profitable as a company), because a company's public perception lives and dies on the stock market because...

You loving guessed it!

:capitalism:
ah, so teslas going down because after a few years people finally realized they dont pay dividends

incels interlinked posted:

most stocks don't pay dividends, and may never pay a dividend. paying a dividend is basically a tax obligation for the recipient (and not deductible by the payer) and an admission by the company that they don't know what else to do with the money other than return some of it to shareholders. its just moving money around and provides an alternative from selling the underlying stock for cash

companies like apple issue bonds to pay dividends instead of repatriating the cash held overseas because again, dividends are not deductible, but interest payments are, and interest rates are hilariously low, so they can issue debt at a few % interest versus paying taxes at 20%+
buybacks are the current way of doing capital return. and even for ancient companies that have been doing a dividend forever, buying back shares increases the dividend by proxy: disburse the same amount of cash to fewer shares = raised dividend

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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iospace posted:

edit fake edit: I know one of you fuckers are going to laugh at VAG.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

pronunciation of the initialism is never the most laughable thing about a VAG effort to push into new territories
its pronounced Fog, ops. von adolf gegrundet

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

iow you have to be good at making cars to make a good car. and tesla is not good at making cars so their cars are bad

cant defeat this logic. lets get some emptyquotes goin on this one

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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whats wrong with their voice

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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sec is a market manipulating short funded by oil interests............

Lutha Mahtin posted:

they want to ban him from being an officer or director of ANY public company :eyepop:

thats normal. 10 year ban and disgorgement are pretty much the extent of their powers. they need to convince the fbi to do something for someone to go to prison

and the ban effects more than just public companies. he can't be part of any company seeking reg d funding (i.e. startups), and no one would want him to be a large shareholder of their company either, because it would reduce their ability to get funding

Jamsta posted:

Gonna be a good time to buy some Tesla stock soon boys, amirite?

funding secured at $420. easy profit

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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big boys pickin up shares on the cheap



those pics all fit on https://twitter.com/BagholderQuotes

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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iospace posted:

It's privately held, so he can still hold c-level roles if the suit succeeds barring an IPO (which at this point won't happen).

however, spacex and the boring company would not be able to receive any additional private investment under reg d either, nor would any other company musk is a major investor in, as musk would be what the sec calls a "bad actor"

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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the plea thing saves the sec time and money

but now they gotta make an example outta him

btw the sec will reward whistleblowers with :10bux:% if the info results in fines

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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men with puns posted:

a miserable pile of SEC writs

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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fine secured 4 20 million

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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infernal machines posted:

and, as mentioned previously, tesla the company no longer has insurance for directors and officers, so they're potentially directly liable for shareholder losses

sounds like it's time for a yospos-led derivative suit against the musk

i'll consider thinking about potentially starting the wiki

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

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noooo

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