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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





ryde posted:

doing dumb pattern matching/statistics and then making decisions on it

so figure out how to make it say "black mirror is so awesome, it really makes you think" and you're done. AI achieved

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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





FAUXTON posted:

Confirming the fit being crazy safe in a crash



I drove it home after being spun around in the intersection because the other guy came flying in at 40ish, slammed on his brakes and tried swerving to the right, hitting my door at an angle and stopping at the pillar between the doors, spinning my car almost 180°

Side airbags deployed just fine and I got away with a slight red spot where the airbag slapped my arm. It went away by the end of the day.

Thing was a 2012 and it totalled out at almost $10k.

nice but does it have room for a 6 foot tall fat man

the impreza does not if that helps

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Lutha Mahtin posted:

i finally saw a parked model 3 today. i have peeped 5-10 model S over the past year or two but i finally got to see something else. it has misaligned panels all over the place. i didn't do a full 360 on it but every panel on the front (bumper, hood, etc) was clearly misaligned

props to the owner i guess for being the only person i've seen use a public EV charger. the only other one i've seen in use here is by the chevy volt owner who uses the charger at the one really good inner-ring suburban library near me

how does that happen. like theres screw holes and you screw the stuff on and it fits, right? "oops it just wont fit together right, little crooked, guess thats good enough though" is for $20 walmart chipboard tables not cars

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





iow you have to be good at making cars to make a good car. and tesla is not good at making cars so their cars are bad

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Sagebrush posted:

It's a picture of a turtle whose shell has been modified (either painted or photoshopped, probably the latter) in a subtle way that causes computer vision systems to interpret it as a rifle

it's a very good example of how these classifiers are not based on anything like a human mind and do not work (or fail) in the ways you would expect. whatever this system is using to identify a turtle, it clearly isn't what people think of as turtle-like features.

Consider this in the context of Tesla computer vision trying to identify things like stop signs or pedestrians

its almost like computers are terrible and shouldn't be used

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





just falcon heavy the cars into leo and bombard the earth with deliveries. take out the "soft landing" bit for selected locales and it doubles as a strategic weapons system

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





double down on tesla's strength: high energy kinetic impactors

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009






oh i know this one. its because two monts after they finish filling their preorders theyre gonna run out of cash and liquidate

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





prisoner of waffles posted:

god I hope they have to argue this one out in court

can't wait until felon musk's lawyers are forced to argue in court that he is in fact a big dumbass

i would hope that being a big dumbass is a good reason to be barred from the board or c-suite of a public company

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Tres Burritos posted:

:confused:

He will return, more powerful than ever!

what is dead cannot die, but rises again harder and muskier

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





prisoner of waffles posted:

Fuckin classic that the SEC was 100% ready to settle but were forced to sigh and unsheathe their katanas by the man who wouldn't admit fault

surprised me but also unsurprising. you think at some point this person will realize what is going on but nope

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Sagebrush posted:

eh people gotta do something. if i had the ability to be an idle rich i'd still, like, run a boutique motorcycle company or something, like keanu reeves does.

yeah thats still idle rich. its called having a hobby

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Powershift posted:

What if you hobby is cutting arms off of blue collar workers while paying them less than a living wage, like Bezos?

he also yells at people

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Gazpacho posted:

elons pouting about the “principle” that he can make reckless disclosures should be mighty useful when the sec gets around to proving that he acted wilfully and knowingly and is unlikely to change his behavior

sec's gonna dunk on him so hard the judge spontaneously combusts and is replaced by shaquille o'neal as kazaam. then shaq rules the sec has conclusively proven the need for elon musk to suffer the worst torment ever inflicted on a human being named elon musk: banned from twitter


President Beep posted:

can the sec get him if he slithers back to sef efrika?

they can still bar him from serving as an officer or board member of a regulated company. it's a civil suit

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Sagebrush posted:

there must be something in the air because every single semester for the past couple of years i've had at least a handful of students whose ~brilliant idea~ for their thesis project is to design a portable apartment-sized self-contained hydroponic farm

i have a how-to book on the subject published in like 1972 and it's been done to death since but, you know, everything old is new again

there is. its weed smoke

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





creationist believer posted:

theres no reason humans should live anyplace that is below +10 C or above +35 C for extended periods of time. of course consumer products won't work if you don't live in civilization, those people should have wilderness survival gear.

a thing san francisco residents actually believe

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





everyone should move to san francisco all we need are 500 story arcologies but the drat NIMBYs :bahgawd:

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





how have they not been recalled yet

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





muckswirler posted:

to make a bigger rocket you just 10x all the measurements and call it a day right? surely nothing more complicated than that

well that does result in a bigger rocket

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





ate all the Oreos posted:

there doesn't appear to be any mention of cooling either. you can't do that through any of the heat shielding because it's... heat shielding, which is why the space shuttle needed to open up its bay doors immediately after reaching orbit.

use an airconditioner duh. are you retarted or smth

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





fishmech posted:

pretty sure that was the same study that used as part of its justification that the crew would b ehaving sex with each other less that way, which seems a bit naive.

fireproof zero-gravity condom

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jerry Cotton posted:

Isn't seeking greatest good for all hedonism, not socialism? (I mean I know it isn't socialism.)

utilitarianism

heís a randroid sounds like

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





i read a niven book recently. it was about a wizard . there was a female character. all she does is be really hot and think the wizard is really great and have a lot of sex with him. i'm not exaggerating, those are the three things. whole book

i'm scared to re-read anything else he wrote now for fear of the things 12yo me wouldn't have noticed

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Gazpacho posted:

if he stops tweeting the terrorists shorts win

also if he keeps tweeting

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





bob dobbs is dead posted:

you can take a short position w/o the naked short you're talkin about

but also do never trade individual stocks or options

stock picking is gambling for accountants

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Combat Theory posted:

quick reminder of the impact detonation of 18650 batteries


Model S has over 8000 of those.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUgbmCSmSNY#t=119s


same video, trying to add water to an opened Cell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUgbmCSmSNY#t=288s


same video, Battery Cook-off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUgbmCSmSNY#t=365s

srsly it runs on ecig batteries? lol

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





ok srs q tho why use ecig batteries. I have a hard time believing they need to sustain 80 kA from the battery pack

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Sagebrush posted:

they're arranged in series modules of about 100 cells, giving ~370v and about 3Ah per module, and then there are 70 or so of those modules to give about 200Ah. 200Ah * 370v ~= 75kWh.

ok and so my question is why that instead of eg 100 200Ah cells. Iím sure thereís a reason I just kinda hope itís not ďwell 18650s were cheapest on alibabaĒ

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jesus Christ you donít need to mansplain me I got a dick

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Shifty Pony posted:

it's because they were cheap and readily available.

every other car manufacturer is using prismatic batteries made of cells which are flat and wide rectangles because arrays thousands of small cylinders is perhaps the absolute worst shape possible for an EV battery. the prismatic cells fit together more tightly, have less space wasted on thousands of thin cell containers, and are easier to cool.

proving once again that doing something well isnít nearly as good as doing it badly with good marketing

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





infernal machines posted:

they did it because it was relatively cheap and also actually possible for them to do rather than spinning up their own battery manufacturing from scratch for the first gen roadster and model s. why they stuck with it is another matter, but probably because they already had charge controllers, cooling, and firmware that worked with a metric assload of cells

yeah. they didnít have the resources to do it well so they did it badly. marketing more than made up the difference anyway

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





ok so now itís a good thing to run an ev on ecig batteries. Iím getting confused

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





infernal machines posted:

it's fine? like, it's not specifically bad because it worked out well for them and the reasons they did it initially made sense.

now, probably they should have made a more efficient design, since they paid panasonic to run their huge battery factory and all. presumably they haven't because they've spent more time making stupid new car designs using what they know, instead of optimizing the existing ones.

why am I serious posting about car batteries. what is wrong with me

ok, so using ecig batteries is acceptable but not how the grownup auto manufacturers do it. answers me well enough I think

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





I assumed that even Tesla would use their ecig batteries within spec, with appropriate control electronics, and from a decent supplier

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Endless Mike posted:

well yeah you can run a delorean indefinitely if you're willing to spend the cash to replace parts as they fail. unless you're going to run a server to keep your tesla working, you're pretty hosed when they go out of business

it is, admittedly, a positive of using off the shelf batteries that you can actually replace them as the bandoliers die.

until some custom pcbs get hosed from water dripping on them. alternatively, "buying from a company very likely to exist five years from now" is an even better way to ensure continued support

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





tesla model 21.02 LTS released with 3 year support guarantee

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





still can't figure that poo poo out. chinese works fine, emoji works fine (outside the BMP!) but some normal stuff gets hosed. my guess is some hamfisted attempt to deal with user agents sending the wrong encoding. why an internet forum in 2018 would have encoding handling more complex than "use utf8 or get hosed" is beyond me

ah i bet its because the encoding of posts in the DB is not known and has changed over the years and someone is trying to fix that in the view. fun times

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jimmy Carter posted:

lol, there's a hojillion CPO BMW i3s for absolutely nothing right now. You could buy one of those for the same cost as 2 years of finance payments on a Model 3 and it actually has a service network.

oh yeah i never thought of that. wth do you do when the bumper falls off, RMA the vehicle?

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





i prefer to believe that UPS puts your car on a flatbed to be taken to the gigafactory and placed on a dirt lot for 6 months with other teslas awaiting repair

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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





its not that other car companies are better when they gently caress things up. stonewalling and blaming poo poo on the driver are standard

its that if you buy a big boy car it can drive in any amount of water without the bumper falling off

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