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Expect My Mom posted:This Is Tendou Maya W-wakarimasu
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This show rules
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Jul 22, 2018 02:29
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I love the tribulations of Mahiru But really Junna is top Starlight
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Jul 22, 2018 04:54
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If only Mahiru had ever watched Love Live Sunshine, she might have some ideas on how to deal with her current predicament.
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Jul 22, 2018 05:10
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Allarion posted:
but yeah I honestly feel bad for Mahiru she doesnt deserve this
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Jul 22, 2018 05:14
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I hope we get to see the other transformation scenes I want to know what object that represents hopes and dreams the other girls will weaponize (i'm feeling like someone won't have any, prob maya)
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Jul 22, 2018 05:33
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kiiirriiiiiiin, manequiiiiiiiiin!
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Jul 23, 2018 02:03
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I'm kinda ashamed to ask this, and I hope no-one takes it as... I dunno, poo poo-stirring (b/c it always sounds like it when someone asks this sort of question) but... I don't understand why everyone likes this show so much! What is it that's grabbing you guys so hard? Like, this is the show everyone's raving about, and I'm just... bored. It's not bad, and it's a hell of a lot better than yet another Isekai or paint-by-numbers Shounen, but even so. I don't find any of the characters interesting -- none of them seem to have any particularly interesting stuff going on yet beyond "Oh look, a childhood promise" which is pretty familiar ground. I don't find the setting interesting -- it's a high-school like almost every other one we see in anime. I don't find the magical aspect interesting -- hell, it's barely even magic beyond "get changed really fast and then have a sword fight". I mean, it's very pretty and well choreographed, which is nice, but it's not grabbing me. The talking giraffe is just filling the classic slot of "non-human magical organiser who stands around making vaguely cryptic remarks", and not very charismatically at that. Can anyone articulate what they're seeing that I'm not? I'm really not trying to be a dick, I'm genuinely curious because I can't remember ever being so uninterested in something that this forum was so excited about.
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Jul 23, 2018 10:12
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Short answer: It’s not for you Longer answer: Ikuhara protégé directs an idol-ish show. Interesting direction during the ‘boring parts’ and strong animation during the action scenes. Mild hype that something really strange could happen with the plot. Music is consistently great throughout the first two eps as well. Know Such Peace fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 10:59
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Allarion posted:But really Junna is top Starlight
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Jul 23, 2018 11:47
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The_White_Crane posted:I don't find any of the characters interesting -- none of them seem to have any particularly interesting stuff going on yet beyond "Oh look, a childhood promise" which is pretty familiar ground. I don't find the setting interesting -- it's a high-school like almost every other one we see in anime. I don't find the magical aspect interesting -- hell, it's barely even magic beyond "get changed really fast and then have a sword fight". I mean, it's very pretty and well choreographed, which is nice, but it's not grabbing me. The talking giraffe is just filling the classic slot of "non-human magical organiser who stands around making vaguely cryptic remarks", and not very charismatically at that.
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Jul 23, 2018 13:20
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Nothing weong with asking that question. What's grabbing me is the direction, mostly. It looks good. The way the characters are framed during their dances and combat scenes adds so much weight and drama to the proceedings, and the way that the camera is so aware of the environment. Like, the fight scene in episode 2 uses the fact that it's on stage so well. Plus, I'm just a sucker for something that's willing to go full Theater Kid. A fight scene / dance / duet kind of pushes all my buttons. I also love the music. Not just the composition, but the choice of instrumentation; there's a lot of wonderful solo piano. For me, so far, it's mostly an aesthetic thing. I'm crossing my fingers that the characters and plot beats live up to the production. Eela6 fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 14:40
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This is a good answer to that question:Spiritus Nox posted:For anyone who's interested, this person has been doing some nicely insightful breakdowns on the first few episodes on their blog:
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Jul 23, 2018 15:24
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The_White_Crane posted:I'm kinda ashamed to ask this, and I hope no-one takes it as... I dunno, poo poo-stirring (b/c it always sounds like it when someone asks this sort of question) but... To elaborate a bit on what everyone else has said - it's worth noting that they're not just studying dance or whatever, they're studying a particular form of musical theater in which there is traditionally one and only one very clear lead ("Position Zero!"), which gives an obvious framework for some nice drama as our cast struggles to reconcile competing desires to be on good terms with everyone but also win a zero-sum game, and perhaps to comment on the arbitrary and possibly unfair nature of that game as a whole. It's the sort of thing that could be a lot of fun if executed with a lot of visual flair, and the first two eps have been very promising on that front. There's still a lot to do to actually fulfill that promise, sure, but I'd say that's true of the vast majority of shows after only two episodes. P.S: Also the choreography, set design, and animation are very stylish and pretty and I really like looking at this show even if it eventually turns out not to have very much to say.
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Jul 23, 2018 15:41
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I'm watching this show because I like the industrial aesthetic.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:35
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The_White_Crane posted:Can anyone articulate what they're seeing that I'm not?
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Jul 23, 2018 17:19
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Everyone posted:Nice answers I guess my problem is basically that I have zero familiarity with Japanese musical theatre, so I'm not getting any of the background that informs the atmosphere, and I've also never been all that particular about animation quality, so that aspect of this show is only a minor selling point to me. As Know Such Peace said, I guess it's just Not For Me, which is fine. Thank you guys for taking my question seriously and trying to explain what you liked about it. I appreciate it's not always an easy thing to articulate.
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Jul 23, 2018 17:42
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Get all of your friends to watch this show. Seriously. It's important.
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Jul 23, 2018 20:56
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Jul 24, 2018 03:10
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Oh that's loving rad
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Jul 24, 2018 03:19
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 I'm confident this will be useful later
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Jul 24, 2018 06:00
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I watched the stage musical tonight! The broadest strokes of the story seem to be the same, but tons of details are changed. https://a.pomf.cat/kqxjmm.webm https://i.imgur.com/3KcayJS.mp4 Junna's still rad, though.  Banana loses a lot without her hair.  The butch/kansaiben pair didn't arrest my attention in the anime (so far) but they're pretty great in this.  A helpful thing, especially for part 2 when it just turns into an idol live and I need my blades to be the right color, is that their skirts inform the audience of their image colors. Anyway, I'm now spoiled on all their weapons and the likely direction things are going, but that's OK! It was pretty good, and I'm totally going to stream it if/when subs are available.
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Jul 24, 2018 06:54
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Another episode, another day where Mahiru feels herself falling behind for reasons she can't comprehend
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Jul 27, 2018 16:51
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With ACSS that makes, what, 4 sets of subs for this show? I don't think that's happened in years. I need a detailed chart to tell me which I should watch.
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Jul 27, 2018 17:10
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The_White_Crane posted:I'm kinda ashamed to ask this, and I hope no-one takes it as... I dunno, poo poo-stirring (b/c it always sounds like it when someone asks this sort of question) but... At first, I thought it felt like mildly Utena-ish w much lower stakes, but this last episode helps clarify a lot of what makes its character drama compelling for me. The show's basically asking the question of whether these girls, via magical sword/theatre comp or something, must ruthessly tear at and betray each other to find success and stardom, or whether its possible to somehow circumvent the weird rules of this arcane metaphorical system and stand at the top together in harmony, or at least find some kind of happiness. Which...honestly sounds a lot like just saying a contest should end w going "Everybody's a winner!", but the ways winning and losing is driving each character ahead and how that's starting to affect their relationships in school is mildly interesting. These aren't fractured, tortured adolescents and losing the revue doesn't send them spiraling into self-hatred or angst, it instead helps them grow via admiration or renewed drive or even just being humbled enough to realize they still have a long way to go, and that that's OK. These realizations are helping new friendships grow, like between Karen and Junna, while causing cracks in others, and the somewhat low stakes of it all so far gives the show room to let these shifts in relationship breathe. I'm not SUPER crazy about this show; the goofy humor parts are still a bore despite the lively storyboarding and I'm just not feeling that much of the music, which is a shame; but there's something there in the character writing that keeps me intruiged, which is more than I can say for Planet With or Angolmois, for example.
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Jul 27, 2018 17:29
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Sindai posted:With ACSS that makes, what, 4 sets of subs for this show? I don't think that's happened in years. Anyone have a trip report on whether the ACSS subs are any good?
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Jul 27, 2018 17:44
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In the same way an anime set at an elite rich private high school allows for the snootiest of ojousama characters, the setup of this show's school as the elite theater school is a perfect setting and pretense to allow anime girl egos and characterizations to go hog wild, which they are doing. Having a background in any theater (disclaimer: I've done my time in high school, both on stage and behind) only helps affirm what you are seeing as comparable to reality. Also, the metaphor of being all friendly and working hard on the surface but being a cutthroat battle underground for a single spotlight is so goddamn apt. Part of the charm of Shirobako was that you knew you were seeing some real life poo poo being represented about the anime production industry, and the same applies here. Sports shows are able to rank characters to the top with numerical objectivity, while these dramas can only do so with artistic subjectivity, and I'd say both are enjoyable in similar ways. So if none of that matches what you like then it's possible you may not like this show!
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Jul 27, 2018 18:10
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Spiritus Nox posted:Anyone have a trip report on whether the ACSS subs are any good? They're what the idolwatch used last week and the only subs so far for episode 3. They seem pretty good to me, though I haven't, like, done a side-by-side comparison.
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Jul 27, 2018 18:17
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Spiritus Nox posted:Anyone have a trip report on whether the ACSS subs are any good? That’s the group I’ve been watching and they seem good, but I don’t know enough nuances to say if they’re the best or not. Honestly only went with them because they had the best and earliest released episode 1 (StarlightSubs just used an edited Hidive rip at the time, and the other group that starts with a C releases super late)
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Jul 27, 2018 18:18
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In episode 2 StarlightSubs mistranslated half-step as octave, which is such an egregious error I'd recommend other options!
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Jul 27, 2018 18:54
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AnacondaHL posted:In episode 2 StarlightSubs mistranslated half-step as octave, which is such an egregious error I'd recommend other options! loving dork
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Jul 27, 2018 18:55
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ACSS also edited the hidive script for ep1 iirc. I heard ACSS was originally just one guy that was planning on dropping it after Chyuu-PAS picked it up, but they got a ton of praise from the Starlight threads on /a/, and they've likely beefed up the team since ep1. ACSS is the fastest by a few hours, has a decent translation, but they have the worst typesetting of the three fansub groups. They sometimes get a bit too liberal with their translations, which makes things easier to process on a first watch but might miss nuances later on in the series. I prefer StarlightSubs' translations so far, but they have the worst source video of the three if that matters to you. I don't notice a difference, but I'm a scrub. The typesetting is nice without drawing attention to itself. I've not noticed any significant mistakes aside from perhaps a grammatical error on Tendou Maya's line at the end of ep2. The team that is working on StarlightSubs has seen the stage play, so I'd trust them with the final say on ambiguous line reads. Chyuu-PAS was supposed to be the saviors after hidive dropped the ball, but I did not care for a lot of their translation/localization choices for ep1 and haven't watched their ep2. They can't release until Sunday at the earliest, but they do have the best source video quality. They also have the fanciest typesetting, but I honestly thought it looked kind of gaudy during the ending of ep1 with the red sparkles for the lyrics. They might have corrected course since then. The sub group has a history of stalling/dropping shows midway through the season, but they've announced publicly that the current team does not have any of the members from the past that led to stalls. There are upsides and downsides to all three, just make sure you skip Hidive/Sentai/HorribleSubs and you should be alright. I'm personally watching ACSS if I'm awake when it is first made available and then rewatching with StarlightSubs.
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Jul 27, 2018 18:58
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Episode 3 was REAL good. Bit surprised that Karen's first defeat came so early. Wonder how long it'll take her to bounce back. Show's doing a really good job of balancing happy funtime SOL antics, slow-building tension, and the dramatic clashes of the Revue IMO
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Jul 27, 2018 19:02
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I want the next episode now
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Jul 27, 2018 19:20
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https://twitter.com/AnimeNewsNet/status/1022939695876071424 This show seems undubbable in much the same way that Symphogear and K-On are basically un-dubbable, so, uh, good luck to these guys I guess.
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Jul 27, 2018 21:23
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The songs aren't putting in the work like the other aspects of the fights so far imo edit: rather the lyrics. I feel they've done such a superb job of building the fights that they're more a cherry on top so far Lessail fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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Jul 27, 2018 21:30
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There's a dub of K-on
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Jul 27, 2018 21:41
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Sakurazuka posted:There's a dub of K-on Yeah, but it doesn't dub the songs. Which is understandable, but still came off real weird there and will come off even weirder here where the lyrics are immediately relevant to the plot and poo poo if the Revue dub tries it.
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Jul 27, 2018 22:02
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AnacondaHL posted:In episode 2 StarlightSubs mistranslated half-step as octave, which is such an egregious error I'd recommend other options! I remember something else as well, but that's the error that sticks out in my mind. Pretty egregious and obvious to anyone with the slightest training in music. I'm definitely enjoying the different relationships between the girls; not everyone at the top is cut-throat, just set on beating their rivals.
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Love the Karen and Maya stuff but I also like that it's setting up sub plots for minor character. I mean I doubt Banana-chan just decided to go on production without some reason we'll see in a future episode Also this end shot is super good. Episode is well directed but it also does little things so well
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