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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016110809662066688

ah yes totally a device that will work in tunnels so narrow that divers have to remove their oxygen tanks

comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 16:03 on Jul 10, 2018

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the soccer team and coach is entirely rescued now

in conclusion, musk spent a bunch of time getting a whole bunch of skilled workers to labor on a completely worthless and actively harmful project to stroke his own ego

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Ytlaya posted:

edit: At best, he's presumably a competent enough programmer to have created PayPal, but (as a programmer myself) programming does not even remotely involve the same sort of intelligence as math/science (unless you're applying programming to those things).
musk was fired from paypal because he wanted to move everything from unix to microsoft over the objections of his engineering team

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Genderfluent posted:

Culture of safety?
just a reminder that the potemkin tent factory has forklifts zooming by workers less than a foot away from them

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

im not an accountant, but paying yourself in assets and capital gains instead of a salary probably carries significant tax advantages for the wealthy and is the reason you have absurdities like warren buffet paying less as a % of his income in taxes than his secretary

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

yah but if they unionized musk could've blamed tesla's impending implosion on the union then

musk is still going to blame it on the workers and unions

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

aren't the cave conditions even worse now with increasing rains and no pumps

is musk going to kill a diver to try to shove his kid koffin in

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

btw musk has (presumably) read multiple textual and vocal explanations by literal cave divers that the dimensions of his kid coffin simply can't work in that cave

musk's rational response was to have a twitter tantrum meltdown

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Former DILF posted:





these them?
lol musk melted down so hard that he speculated that the conditions were not hazardous and did not need diving equipment even though an experienced diver had literally died

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

And without Elon they can issue even more stock and raise their market cap lmao.
i want to short TSLA but then i remember the market can remain irrational longer than i can remain solvent

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

logikv9 posted:

no matter how well you drive you are always at the mercy of the electric Killer Cars
there could be a Tesla on the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yuws-KTdXg&t=14s

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

steinrokkan posted:

By 2020 all cars in the US will have to have been converted to burning coal.
america is going to melt down and convert as much infrastructure to coal as possible and do the international equivalent of rolling coal

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/bonerman_inc/status/1019524688953798658

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i just had the thought that musk has probably already hired private investigators to pry into that hero diver's private life

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

wait did tesla remotely unlock the car here?

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

is it legal to announce you publicly produced X cars if they are defective and unsell-able even if you pretend/hope you will fix these up into a sell-able state later? would this be considered fraud?

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

rudatron posted:

drat, I actually forgot that one of the drivers died, which is what makes elons poo poo all the more outrageous

It's like something out of a kid's cartoon
just a reminder that musk got so mad that while he was calling the hero diver a pedophile he was also simultaneously downplaying the dangers of the cave and telling everyone we should be thanking the brave water pumping machines and also speculated that the conditions of the cave became mild enough such that diving equipment was unnecessary

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Waffle House posted:

Sometimes I wonder if all the Musk/Bezos salt isn't just one silicon valley billionare trying to DL sink two other ones using social media, maybe buy them up afterwards

Thoughts turn to Peter Thiel, who is an expert in that sort of thing
the thread makes me want to short tesla but then i remember something incredibly stupid could happen like some billionaire buys tesla or there's some insane merger and then im loving ded

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

lol even times is getting in on the dogpile against musk and people in the comments section are melting down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJU6I9zNNsw

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Bushiz posted:

Electric cars are dumb as hell because they do nothing to alleviate the actual environmental and societal costs of cars, which is the immense amount of infrastructure that has to be devoted to them.
it's a 3-pronged approach to solving climate change. electric cars, low density tube-transport, and mars colony

what have you even done???

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

a reasonable solution to climate change would be war-time mobilization of the economy to move to other energy sources, investing in public transportation and infrastructure, and massive research into the damage we've already done and how to prepare for the change

if your solution is to hope some capitalist messiah sells cheap electric cars then lol

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Vox Nihili posted:

Well yeah and our stupid-rear end cities should be laid out completely differently and also we shouldn't be under the yolk of capitalism. None of that changes the fact that EVs of all sorts are, broadly speaking, a step in the right direction.
i wouldn't be surprised if massive investment in public transport using fossil fueled vehicles is better for carbon emissions than cheap viable electric cars

of course that's a false dichotomy since you can just use EV public transport instead

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Feranon posted:

"i am a rich person who told you peons to do something, therefore i expect it to happen regardless of what is possible within physical reality"

literal god complex
this is what rich people and management do all the time on a routine basis with the literal experts they hire IME

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

just always remember that the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

FCKGW posted:

Do they make a bright yellow tesla with flames on the side?


mods???

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Al! posted:

please, thread, let's not rehabilitate guy fieri just because elon musk is worse. that's the same mistake libs are making with gwb (tho in this case gwb is much much worse than trump)
by that standard obama is also much much worse than trump

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

lmao "we hired third party polling and it turns out that the guys we paid to see if a union would be good say it isnt"
if only there was some formalized process by which members in a workplace could express their democratic desires for unionization
:thunk:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Wheeee posted:

the most hilarious fact about elon musk is that he will die, a very long time from now, wealthy, loved, and feeling fully vindicated in his life decisions, while millions (potentially billions) of people die horrific, meaningless deaths

i read this thread because its funny and all, but musk is just another meaningless symptom of a far greater problem which will not be resolved by humanity
im sure depressed peasants at one point thought the same of louis xvi

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Vox Nihili posted:

The funny thing is that Jobs had pancreatic cancer, which is typically insanely fatal in an incredibly short timespan. However, it turns out he had a super rare variant that is far more treatable and survivable! So naturally he used his huge and powerful entrepreneur brain and "disrupted" this miracle by slamming all of his chips onto fruit juice.
to be fair, didn't jobs also steal an organ donation by declaring residency in multiple states and using his clout to get to the top of the donor list in addition to his self-prescribed juice regimen

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

organ donation should allow the donor to set a maximum wealth allowed for their donation

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

wait how did these people convince anyone that segways were going to be a big deal
lol @ the media just uncritically regurgitating press releases

im sure things have improved since then

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Spatial posted:

Famously there is no way to open the glove compartment without using the touchscreen. A guy who crashed his Tesla couldn't get his license/insurance out because of this. lol.

Solution: software patch for the car that automatically opens it in case of a crash.
juicero but for cars

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

It’s loving incredible that with all that venture money, this is what Tesla is. If I had that money, I could have hired a handful of manufacturing engineers, a couple of car designers and said “hey, go make an electric car, hire whoever you need . I’m going to spend 9-5 everyday browsing pornhub in my CEO’s office.”

You’d have a functioning car line and the entire thing would be a lot less masterbatory.
but how are you going to feel like a captain of industry if you just sit there like a useless parasite instead of micromanaging details like getting rid of an easily viewable speedometer

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the model 🤔

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

veiled boner fuel posted:

Jesus Christ he really is a retard.
he's just ahead of his time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omoVzuynmE&t=138s

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

FCKGW posted:

The solar roof is so dumb. Of course aesthetics are important, that's the only thing it has going for it. It's more expensive and less efficient than traditional panels, plus you have to replace your entire drat roof with it.

3M had solar tiles for years and years and gave up on them because they're a terrible solution.
do residential home solar panels have any benefit over solar power plants besides making conspicuous consumers feel better about themselves

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

uh no you must have me confused for someone else. I actually think we should be investing heavily into solar technologies and R&D lol. it's just that putting solar panels on residential roofs seems like one of the dumbest self-defeating loving ways to go about this and is mostly about virtue signalling than anything else. way worse than just centralized solar power plants. npr likes to talk ad nauseum about interoperating residential solar with municipal power grids.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Pidgin Englishman posted:

I mean, rooftop panels aren't ideal but writing them off as signalling is lol
my criticism is that it's essentially being marketed as individual consumer choice to decide if they want sustainable energy. of course this doesn't really solve sustainable energy issues and it amounts to pissing in the ocean. you need significant disposable income or go into significant debt to even get these things in the first place significantly limiting their usage. it's really immaterial to my point that it saves some people some money. it's like the equivalent of everyone trying to have little fossil fuel generators inside their homes to supplement the energy grid and to combat predatory private energy pricing. i'm sure some people could save money that way too. it's insane compared to just centralized solar power plants.

anyway, this is just kind of a greater overall criticism of musk. he likes these faux-humanity-saving endeavors that are just ridiculous on the face of it to me compared to other potential social policies. it turns out relying on a tiny group of profit-seekers to save us might not be the best way to figure this poo poo out

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

bawfuls posted:

This isn’t really true with solar PV. one solar panel is just as efficient by itself as it is surrounded by thousands just like it. there are some marginal efficiencies to be gained by grouping a lot of panels together with a large inverter, but it’s a small gain. On the other hand, by putting PV generation right on a rooftop at the point of use, transmission losses are minimized. The other factor to consider with PV is ambient temperature; PV panels get less efficient as their temperature rises. So while the Mojave desert gets marginally more sun a year than a house in Southern California, the panels in the desert are going to generally be hotter than ones on someone’s roof in LA.

Nearly every other power generation technology gains much more from large centralized generation than PV does. PV is the best candidate for distributed generation.
there's a ridiculous loss of resources in installing and maintaining solar on 10,000 geographically disparate roofs with wildly varying levels of residential tree cover instead of just doing that equivalent in a power plant

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