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i like that in a bunch of his interviews Mark Hamill shits all over the new star wars. i mean they must have told him to be nice, imagine what he would say if he wasnt under contract.
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Elukka posted:Guys. Laura Derns Purple Wig posted:
He sure is CineD!!!!!!! Lmao I need a cup of coffee.
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Jul 12, 2018 13:01
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The badguys are called stormtroopers. You know this is a really subtle analogy.
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Jul 12, 2018 13:15
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The Last Jedi was actually very entertaining. I liked the mouse droids running around the First Order's ships and then BB-8 pretending to be a mouse droid while disguised as a box. Also every scene on Luke's hilarious Jedi planet.
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Jul 12, 2018 13:19
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I watched this movie on netflix and felt like I got ripped off
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Jul 12, 2018 13:36
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I felt like it was a step up from JJs mystery box writing in part 7. I hate that people still fall for that expecting some sort of amazing narrative from that guy. It's never going to happen and it's super lazy writing that never pays off. People that were expecting solid answers to his lame mysteries are the reason George Lucas made up midichlorians. Is that what you want? Also, it was better than all 3 prequels. Star Wars is at its best when it's doing space wizard samurais. It fails when it tries to be super hero ninjas. I liked TLJ and that concludes my bad Star Wars opinions. E:. And let's be clear, Mark Hamill is upset because by all accounts that I've seen he thinks Luke should be a super hero ninjas and set up the justice league of Jedi instead of understanding that Luke is a Ronin. The dude is just a masterless samurai that never finished his training... Seems clear to me, but I guess I'm looking at what the original Star Wars was and not what the EU has turned it into over the years. An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 14:02
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I thought it was okay if only because it at least attempted to be different in a series that literally just remakes its own movies. But because it's Star Wars that makes it impossible to be good.
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Jul 12, 2018 14:06
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if only it was The Last Star Wars Movie
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Jul 12, 2018 14:10
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I saw it in theatres with my friends like a rube but it was good because we just spent the entire time laughing in disbelief that this was the movie Like way to take every single thing that worked about TFA and just throw it into the garbage in an attempt to "deconstruct" this lovely series for children
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Jul 12, 2018 14:41
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my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:I watched this movie on netflix and felt like I got ripped off This was how I felt with Rogue One. Every Star Wars movie is only good in the first ten minutes when it's like "here's a big spaceship, here's a big space bazaar" and after that they inevitably turn to poo poo
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Jul 12, 2018 14:48
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it was fine, everything is fine, it was awkward watching luke milk the seemingly apathetic cow creature's titties for the blue milk but otherwise the movie was fine. i am glad they made the movie and i am glad i sat down and finally watched it on netflix. star wars is not supposed to be deep, metaphorical cinema, its space wizards and laser swords.
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Jul 12, 2018 15:15
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I like that yoda just hangs out being dead and loving with the weather
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Jul 12, 2018 15:21
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An Ounce of Gold posted:I felt like it was a step up from JJs mystery box writing in part 7. I hate that people still fall for that expecting some sort of amazing narrative from that guy. It's never going to happen and it's super lazy writing that never pays off. People that were expecting solid answers to his lame mysteries are the reason George Lucas made up midichlorians. the movie turns luke from a guy who saw the potential for good in the 2nd evilest dude in the universe and resisted temptation to redeem him into a child murderer who decides to shank his nephew because the force told him so you can complain all you want about TFA being more formulaic, but TLJ is entirely dependent on nostalgia for the OT and the goodwill TFA established towards the new characters to make you care about anything happening onscreen- it ends up being more derivative than a wholesale ripoff of A New Hope, and the fact that it goes out of its way to poo poo on the generic mysteries TFA sets up is undermined by the fact that its own storytelling/pacing is worse on every level and is wholly uninterested/incapable of setting up anything better it has some good moments, but overall it's a very bad movie
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Jul 12, 2018 15:24
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Remember how in Empire Luke spends his entire apprenticeship just getting the poo poo owned out of him by a little green goblin and then bumbles off and gets his hand chopped the hell off Like he's a complete moron the whole way through and has to get bailed out repeatedly by his friends. It's great
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Jul 12, 2018 15:29
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So is the movie all about nostalgia AND it goes against the established settings and themes? No wonder I'll never understand any of the criticism.
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Jul 12, 2018 15:30
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Movie was boring. I actually skipped all the casino heist sequences with the mush faced Vietnamese girl and the black guy + (a very bored) benicio del toro. It was about space gas and leia flying. Kylo and Rey are interesting. Luke was lame. I'd argue that there wasn't enough laser swordings. I also might be the least humurous person alive because everytime the movie made a joke, I felt like there was too much winking at the audience. But I could just he humorless, I do work in finance.
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pros: -the main character arcs (Luke, Kylo, Rey) are great -made lots of nerds really mad cons: -lots of time spent on boring and extremely irrelevant secondary characters -plot goes through very arbitrary contortions to try to line up reasons for the big plot beats to happen overall it's a movie I'm glad to have seen exactly one (1) time and definitely never ever again
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Jul 12, 2018 15:41
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Rogue one was good. Maybe they should make more rogue ones
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LGD posted:the movie turns luke from a guy who saw the potential for good in the 2nd evilest dude in the universe and resisted temptation to redeem him into a child murderer who decides to shank his nephew because the force told him so People come up with this "it's been 30 years he's not the same guy" defense, but the problem is we haven't seen Luke in that time. What he earned in the original trilogy is the wisdom that no one's beyond saving, but in this movie he draws his lightsaber on a kid, even in his telling of events. His failing in this film should've drawn on his sort of hippie-dippie "we can all be friends" naivety, but instead they just gently caress completely with his character. Not to mention he teaches Rey essentially nothing, she's just right about everything forever, hurray Edit: Point is, if we don't see this stuff happen, it doesn't feel like a mystery of what changed this character, it feels like whiplash. Han and Leia are essentially unchanged from Episode 6 and move on from there, which is the way you go when you bring back characters after a long absence. Squashing Machine fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 15:44
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Benicio was actually my favorite character in the movie, and the fact I can't even remember his name speaks volumes for the rest of the it
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my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:I watched this movie on netflix and felt like I got ripped off
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Jul 12, 2018 15:46
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Kuato posted:Rogue one was good. Maybe they should make more rogue ones Name 3 characters from Rogue One who weren't in the original trilogy.
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Jul 12, 2018 15:47
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pew-pew-pew!Bholder posted:The badguys are called stormtroopers. pew-pew-ka-blowey!
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Jul 12, 2018 15:49
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Whooping Crabs posted:Name 3 characters from Rogue One who weren't in the original trilogy. easy Minnie Bothans Force Monk & Brother Le Chiffre
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Jul 12, 2018 15:50
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I'm no Star War historian but you'd think during this gigantic all encompassing million year long space war there would be more than one arms dealer character
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Jul 12, 2018 15:50
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Whooping Crabs posted:Name 3 characters from Rogue One who weren't in the original trilogy. cool robot blind dude big gun guy
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Jul 12, 2018 15:52
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:I'm no Star War historian but you'd think during this gigantic all encompassing million year long space war there would be more than one arms dealer character No, just one. Just like there’s one snow planet. One desert planet. One forest planet. Etc.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:02
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I liked it overall, not super crazy about it, and remembering it feels kind of like a fever dream Best parts: - WW2 space bombing - hyperspace kamikaze - throne room fight - Luke completely clowning Kylo Ren in a duel
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Jul 12, 2018 16:09
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looks like the original fairy tale the original was based on a hundred years ago does not provide enough background for an endless stream of thoughtless sequels. who would have known
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Jul 12, 2018 16:15
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I'm just so tired of all these star wars
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Jul 12, 2018 16:21
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Squashing Machine posted:People come up with this "it's been 30 years he's not the same guy" defense, but the problem is we haven't seen Luke in that time. What he earned in the original trilogy is the wisdom that no one's beyond saving, but in this movie he draws his lightsaber on a kid, even in his telling of events. His failing in this film should've drawn on his sort of hippie-dippie "we can all be friends" naivety, but instead they just gently caress completely with his character. Not to mention he teaches Rey essentially nothing, she's just right about everything forever, hurray you're totally right re: Luke, but I think Leia also suffers from the movie's tendency to tell rather than show she feels like a more natural outgrowth of her OT character, but the movie's complete lack of a sense of scale (even for Star Wars, which is saying something) and failure to set up the already-too-vague-in-TFA political and military scope of the conflict in turn makes her "failure" (to secure allies and nurture a military force capable of opposing the First Order) feel unconvincing having her reduced to running a hardline faction of paramilitaries during an unquiet peace as she was in TFA is fine (clever even), but we don't have any sense of why someone who was capable of running such an organization is suddenly completely out of friends and political contacts at the very moment history is vindicating her as the First Order suddenly transforms from a rump state with nukes (that were blown up!) into an all-powerful force capable of invading the rest of the galaxy simultaneously lllllllllllllllllll posted:looks like the original fairy tale the original was based on a hundred years ago does not provide enough background for an endless stream of thoughtless sequels. who would have known there are so loving many actual WW2 battles and samurai/cowboy movies they could crib from its ridiculous
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Jul 12, 2018 16:22
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Last Jedi sucked imo, I almost fell asleep in the theater and I've never done that for a movie ever. It was one slow plodding chase scene where nothing happens and nothing matters. They should have let the Fury Road guys make Star Wars, those guys know how to stretch a chase scene out for an entire movie and make it fun as hell to watch.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:22
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I thought it was neither bad nor good. I watched justice league yesterday and I can see people being salty if they paid money to watch that. That was a terrible movie.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:25
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Squashing Machine posted:People come up with this "it's been 30 years he's not the same guy" defense, but the problem is we haven't seen Luke in that time. What he earned in the original trilogy is the wisdom that no one's beyond saving, but in this movie he draws his lightsaber on a kid, even in his telling of events. His failing in this film should've drawn on his sort of hippie-dippie "we can all be friends" naivety, but instead they just gently caress completely with his character. Not to mention he teaches Rey essentially nothing, she's just right about everything forever, hurray I think it would have worked better if he drew his lightsaber before knowing it was Ben. Just feeling this overwhelming dark presence and maybe thinking they were about to be attacked but then turning it off the moment he realized it was Ben. I think that preserves the tragedy and even Luke’s shame but without compromising what we know of him
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Jul 12, 2018 16:25
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I watched the first hour or so until Del Toro is introduced, then the kids came home. It was...okay, I guess? It gets worse?
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Jul 12, 2018 16:27
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Let me guess, people who hated TLJ also hated KOTOR2
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Jul 12, 2018 16:28
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LGD posted:you're totally right re: Luke, but I think Leia also suffers from the movie's tendency to tell rather than show Yeah, this is just the problem of them going the safe route and having it go back to "plucky underdog rebels vs all-powerful empire", but it requires so many nonsensical choices that the entire thing just feels like a joke. Empire Strikes Back made sense, but in the gap between TFA and TLJ somehow the First Order grows in size like twenty times over despite killing everyone and then exploding. You could've gone the route of "New Republic doesn't believe that the First Order is real/an actual threat until it's too late", putting Leia in the position of looking like a paranoid jumping at old shadows. Everything they actually went with feels contrived as hell.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think it would have worked better if he drew his lightsaber before knowing it was Ben. Just feeling this overwhelming dark presence and maybe thinking they were about to be attacked but then turning it off the moment he realized it was Ben. Yeah, that would be workable, really anything else would've been fine over what they actually did, which is to completely undo Luke's character arc from the OT so there can be a contrived reason why this is all happening.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:32
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Demon Of The Fall posted:I watched the first hour or so until Del Toro is introduced, then the kids came home. It was...okay, I guess? It gets worse? the remaining 90 minutes is continuous plot twists making all the previous action irrelevant but the climactic scenes are generally very good, so it's kind of a wash
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Kinda weird that The Last Jedi is on Netflix when The Force Awakens never was and still isn't. Putting Rogue One on there kind of made sense since it was not part of the main series (it's not an "episode"). But now you can go to Netflix and see Star Wars: Episode 8, but not Star Wars: Episode 7, when they are both part of the same trilogy. I'm trying to imagine what explanation there can be for this besides "The Last Jedi sucked and nobody wants to watch it,so it was cheap for Netflix to acquire, unlike The Force Awakens."
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