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hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Call me a sap but my favorite part of the movie was Cash's uncle being overjoyed and hugging Cash when he learned he wasn't going to lose the house.

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Hey everyone! If you liked this movie go watch Blindspotting, the other politically-timely, Oakland-set debut film from a rapper-turned-filmmaker. They work very well as a pair complementing each other.

Oneavi
Dec 10, 2011

Boxbot was head of security.
Something that gave me a laugh near the end was the brief aside as Cassius complains about having to pee before Steve shows his equisapien proposal. It felt like a little joke about people walking out of the theater at critical moments in a movie and missing something important, which in this case wound up leading the plot down a seriously weirder path.

alpha_destroy
Mar 23, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night
I think those of you that see Steven Yeun as ambiguous or a parallel for the proposed equisapian MLK are falling victim to Hollywood's ideological--I don't know the word... is it interpellation in this case? I'm not actually good at theory--interpellation (?) because I don't think there is really anything actually in the text to support that. I think we are all just conditioned to distrust union activists, especially in fiction, because of their constant portrayal as hypocrites. Hell, the last blood pumping film I saw in theaters, Snowpiercer, had that exact twist and that film is also supposed to be anti-capitalist! So believe me, I get your reactions. Since I went into this unfamiliar with the Coup, I sat through the whole movie expecting the reveal that he was a PoS. But that is because of my expectations, not the film.

I don't know. Ask yourself how to possibly write a more pure and obviously committed union activist than Steven Yeun's character. Besides him going off the rails about STDs, I'm not sure he does or says anything that should elicit suspicion. So yeah, I think any ambiguity about him comes pretty directly from the viewer, not the film.


Edit: Hell, even when Cash and Detroit get back together Squeeze doesn't start poo poo or anything, he's just understandably sad. Squeeze is a true comrade.

Edit: drat homophones

alpha_destroy fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jul 26, 2018

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Oneavi posted:

Something that gave me a laugh near the end was the brief aside as Cassius complains about having to pee before Steve shows his equisapien proposal. It felt like a little joke about people walking out of the theater at critical moments in a movie and missing something important, which in this case wound up leading the plot down a seriously weirder path.

I really loved that. Every half-joke and background gag in this was on point.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Near the end, in the hallway with the green doors, I immediately noticed the jade one and laughed when it became a small plot point

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1022701590816284672

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
really good film. felt good going in blind. the rap scene, the covers fight, the have a good day argument was my favorite. but the whole film was crazy in an american way.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Yo if anyone wants the car their webstore has it.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Yo if anyone wants the car their webstore has it.

Lmao that description

Zoracle Zed
Jul 10, 2001

Chainsawdomy posted:

Are we sure he wasn't? He goes from town to town solving trouble after all. .

He goes from town to town because he’s a salt.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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Saw the film. Loved it. Truly highlights the difference between a socialist film and a liberal one.

The movie was surreal though. Reminded me of a Japanese horror film like Miike Takashi's work.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I really loved that. Every half-joke and background gag in this was on point.

My favorite passing gag was Squeeze quietly saying "No, we're going Dutch" to Salvador when they showed them sitting together in the restaurant.

I have no idea why that cracked me up so much.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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I didn't understand the significance of Detroit's art performance and her English white voice.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


punk rebel ecks posted:

I didn't understand the significance of Detroit's art performance and her English white voice.

My take is that just because she's a leftist performance artist doesn't mean she's free of the system and its demands. It ties into the false ending with Cash and her in the garage, before he's transformed and has to go from carving out a space to live to decisive action against those in power.

Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Aug 3, 2018

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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Sir Kodiak posted:

My take is that just because she's a leftist performance artist doesn't mean she's free of the system and its demands. It ties into the false ending with Cash and her in the garage, before he's transformed and has to go from carving out a space to live to decisive action against those in power.

This movie is leftist as gently caress.

I can't recall a movie as left wing in recent years that wasn't a biopic.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Yeah. Though I might actually put The First Purge up there with it, if you're into something that's more action/horror. It's got the same basic arc of increasing collectivization and revolutionary action and the series has gotten real blatant about who the bad guys are.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



Boots Riley actually did a Q&A here in DC last week with Danny Glover and I was really stoked about it. I keep forgetting Danny Glover’s a real deal leftist.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

While I think everyone has talked about the same points I love about this movie, one of my favorite gags has to be with Cassius' immediate manager, where you start noticing tattoos on his face with each passing shot. Like I can't tell if they were always there, but it's like they creep into view whenever there's a new scene with him.

And this is before the "bag and tag" monologue, where he's revealed to be Nice Pete from Achewood.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Saw it, enjoyed it, laughed a lot, felt a lot, also felt the unevenness of the plot but that's just part of it. Also felt Tessa Thompson should have had a bigger role, but love the gag about her white voice at the art show Saw it with a friend and he haaaated it, haha--I forgot surreal, weird movies aren't really his thing.

I enjoyed the drop in production values whenever something came on a screen, it's like they were watching a music video from the Coup.

https://youtu.be/acT_PSAZ7BQ

side_burned
Nov 3, 2004

My mother is a fish.
Something about Sorry To Bother You had me thinking about Repo Man.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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What's "Repo Man"?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

punk rebel ecks posted:

What's "Repo Man"?

https://youtu.be/d9k09WPpNeo

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

quote:

The whitespeak-from-black-lips and coitus-interruptus garage door gags having been tipped in the trailer, precious little is left to laugh at in this edition of amateur night at the multiplex. Telemarketers as targets from which satire flows eternal were spigotted about the same time as mall cops, and that’s not all this jammed-scattergun approach to comedy has in common with the terminally incoherent Paul Blart. It helps, when making a satire, for the filmmakers to clearly define and develop the subject to be ridiculed. But the majority of what we’re told about the futuristic, government-run Worry Free Living slave labor program comes from a television commercial. In an attempt to say something important about the human condition, rapper-turned-director Boots Riley spends most of the time landing face-first on the canvas. Lakeith Stanfield plays the part with all the apprehension of a pup caught scarfing dinner from off the table. His time in the star’s circle will soon come. Your time would be better spent downloading Putney Swope. 2018.

san diego reader's review

lol

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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Worry-Free wasn't government run. Was the dude even paying attention?

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

punk rebel ecks posted:

Worry-Free wasn't government run. Was the dude even paying attention?

Yeah, and we get plenty about Worry-Free from dialogue between characters, Steve Lift, the MTV Cribs infomercial and, of course, Michael Gondry's equisapien short.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Young Freud posted:

Yeah, and we get plenty about Worry-Free from dialogue between characters, Steve Lift, the MTV Cribs infomercial and, of course, Michael Gondry's equisapien short.

One of the best gags is that the Michel Gondry parody uses characters referencing his film Human Nature

Miss Lonelyhearts
Mar 22, 2003


Pretty sure Michel DONGry directed that video.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Glad to see that Eagles Are Turning People Into Horses has had a lasting cinematic legacy.

https://youtu.be/c1-Oep9uNwM

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

Young Freud posted:

While I think everyone has talked about the same points I love about this movie, one of my favorite gags has to be with Cassius' immediate manager, where you start noticing tattoos on his face with each passing shot. Like I can't tell if they were always there, but it's like they creep into view whenever there's a new scene with him.

And this is before the "bag and tag" monologue, where he's revealed to be Nice Pete from Achewood.

I forgot about this, and it's definitely a deliberate poke at someone who once was an ally and becoming a collaborator (notice his tattoo's are things like Anarchy etc) once they got a taste of power.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Boots said that's based on a real guy who had similar tats.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Cassius's immediate manager was great. I did, however, confuse him as both Seth Morris and then Brett Gelman before realizing he was neither.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I thought he was fuckin Hank Azaria.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

I thought Kate Berlant was the actress who played Alex in Sex House and was glad she was getting work, but she is not.

MelancholyMark
May 5, 2009

TrixRabbi posted:

Glad to see that Eagles Are Turning People Into Horses has had a lasting cinematic legacy.

https://youtu.be/c1-Oep9uNwM

This is all I could think about during the finale and probably the reason why I didn't think it was as wild as it could have been, still loved the movie though

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Zoracle Zed posted:

He goes from town to town because he’s a salt.

I thought he was one when he was quick to ask Cassius to go out for drinks after meeting where pay was brought up, and felt way too satisfied when it was proven true the next scene.

Admiral Bosch
Apr 19, 2007
Who is Admiral Aken Bosch, and what is that old scoundrel up to?
This movie ruled and was a breath of fresh air. Noticed one theater walkout which I find hilarious. I agree with the criticism that Detroit should have had more to do but there was already a ton of poo poo happening in the movie. Bonus points for introducing me, ultra-whitey, to The Coup and Boots Riley which I am blasting into my ears this whole morning.


Plot spoiler chat:

I'm trying to find the words but I was brutally depressed by how believable the world depicted is - people selling themselves into prison labor because there isn't really any alternative. I could easily see Amazon starting up cell-block housing for their warehouse workers, for example. And the exultation of "scientific progress" resulting in huge stock market booms... god. Too close to home.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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It all may seem extreme, but you can only go so much further than the realities of such things as "we found out that the government is spying on virtually every citizens phone calls, emails, and web cams and still nobody cares".

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

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I just realized that the main character has chlmydia at the end.

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Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

punk rebel ecks posted:

I just realized that the main character has chlmydia at the end.

Squeeze is a true comrade

I'll admit, I was thinking the same thing, but there's also a discussion with Detroit about what happened between her a Squeeze and she says "everything but" so maybe not.

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