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Dylan16807
May 12, 2010
Apparently they have two kinds of mini bottle, one of which has whiskey, and they look basically identical.

mawarannahr posted:

guy buying fireball: oh no I've been deceived. I'm going to stop drinking this garbage
The fake kind also has half the alcohol.

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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Dylan16807 posted:

Apparently they have two kinds of mini bottle, one of which has whiskey, and they look basically identical.

The fake kind also has half the alcohol.

This is specifically so they can sell them at gas stations in states where liquor sales are regulated. Oregon for example the state owns all liquor and licensed liquor stores just have a contract to sell it on behalf of the state monopoly. So when you see these in the gas station they can’t have actual whiskey and still be in compliance with olcc. Beyond that, even in states that are deregulated I think there’s certain licensing requirements that for example Washington (I could be wrong here) my understanding is you have to be a grocery store to actually sell liquor as opposed to a convenience store or a gas station (or at least I’ve never seen them in gas stations or convenience stores up there).

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Biplane posted:

How can you post this without linking that dope poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2v1DYEmzPk this one has comical music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K15WQ5L06SY here he works on cutting down a tree then chainsawing apart his cabin to fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxGybZRMZw putting rocks in after jacking up the sagging logs

he makes a few grand a year of people watching this poo poo, i think he's mainly just lonely and wanted to talk. its frankly pretty boring

he goes up near the canadian border each winter, in the summer he takes a canoe on a floatplane halfway between winnipeg and the hudson bay for 6 weeks because he's insane. not dick proenneke by any means either

mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 19:50 on Feb 2, 2023

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

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Dylan16807 posted:

Apparently they have two kinds of mini bottle, one of which has whiskey, and they look basically identical.

The fake kind also has half the alcohol.

Right, the issue here is that the company is taking advantage of the assumption "brand of alcohol in the tiny bottle" is the exact same as thr product in the big bottle.

Those tiny bottles are also usually behind the counter so it's not like the consumer can carefully examine the label. With the exception of like on a flight, I've also exclusively seen the minibottles as the stuff a homeless person scrounges up the money for.
Well and kids would steal them to get drunk, but that's why they're behind the counter now.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Coolness Averted posted:

Right, the issue here is that the company is taking advantage of the assumption "brand of alcohol in the tiny bottle" is the exact same as thr product in the big bottle.

Those tiny bottles are also usually behind the counter so it's not like the consumer can carefully examine the label. With the exception of like on a flight, I've also exclusively seen the minibottles as the stuff a homeless person scrounges up the money for.
Well and kids would steal them to get drunk, but that's why they're behind the counter now.

Yeah I guess it depends where you are. If you’re in a state with strict ABC regulation then it shouldn’t be too hard to know that can’t really be liquor but if you’re not then that label would obviously be confusing as poo poo

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

mastershakeman posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2v1DYEmzPk this one has comical music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K15WQ5L06SY here he works on cutting down a tree then chainsawing apart his cabin to fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxGybZRMZw putting rocks in after jacking up the sagging logs

he makes a few grand a year of people watching this poo poo, i think he's mainly just lonely and wanted to talk. its frankly pretty boring

he goes up near the canadian border each winter, in the summer he takes a canoe on a floatplane halfway between winnipeg and the hudson bay for 6 weeks because he's insane. not dick proenneke by any means either

I watch dick proenneke's documentary at least twice a year. I wonder if it's seasonal for me or something.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

In Training posted:

cool to think that network television spends probably hundreds of millions a year on equipment and labor to get like 6 million people to look at a screen. Google is crushing it

the ads go down better with high production value

I met a camera operator from Mad Men (forget which season) when that was the prestige TV, and he said that television is "what keeps the ads from knocking together" and absolutely despised what he worked on and I think about that a lot

edit: did madmen even have ad breaks?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
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Antonymous posted:

the ads go down better with high production value

I met a camera operator from Mad Men (forget which season) when that was the prestige TV, and he said that television is "what keeps the ads from knocking together" and absolutely despised what he worked on and I think about that a lot

edit: did madmen even have ad breaks?

Yes, it was on AMC

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Antonymous posted:

edit: did madmen even have ad breaks?

half of it was product placement for alcohol cigarettes and FMCG

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Antonymous posted:

the ads go down better with high production value

I met a camera operator from Mad Men (forget which season) when that was the prestige TV, and he said that television is "what keeps the ads from knocking together" and absolutely despised what he worked on and I think about that a lot

edit: did madmen even have ad breaks?

I can see working on Mad Men giving you an especially bleak* view on the role of advertising in society, tbf.

*Bleak, but accurate

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Failed Imagineer posted:

I can see working on Mad Men giving you an especially bleak* view on the role of advertising in society, tbf.

*Bleak, but accurate

Maybe I read it wrong but I think he disliked the show more than the ads

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Milo and POTUS posted:

Maybe I read it wrong but I think he disliked the show more than the ads

I kinda inferred that he thought all of television was worthless pabulum there to support the main goal of injecting advertising into your eyeballs. I would further infer that he hates advertising, but I admit I don't know this guy's mind

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Probably, but it would be funnier if for some bizarre reason he just hated television because it took up valuable time he could be watching ads

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

I'M FEELING JIMMY

christmas boots posted:

Probably, but it would be funnier if for some bizarre reason he just hated television because it took up valuable time he could be watching ads

It's the guy that came up with the idea of the geico cavemen show.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Coolness Averted posted:


Fireball Whiskey*

(May not contain actual whiskey)
This is just about the minibottles being a cheap ethanol, food coloring, sugar and artificial flavor blend, but sold with labeling and a price point that would make a customer think they're buying the whiskey of the same name, brand, and formulation.

The same way one assumed a gallon of milk and quart of milk would contain the same product.

I did notice they were suspiciously suddenly able to sell those little bottles absolutely everywhere here, even at like gas stations, despite Florida requiring anything that's not beer or wine or "malt beverage" to be sold at a dedicated liquor store.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also they're almost exactly the same bottles as the actual tiny bottles of fireball whiskey you can get at the actual liquor store too so like, it does seem pretty darn intentionally deceptive.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Shame Boy posted:

Also they're almost exactly the same bottles as the actual tiny bottles of fireball whiskey you can get at the actual liquor store too so like, it does seem pretty darn intentionally deceptive.

oh if they are doing that then yeah, I hope they get shut down

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Why do you dweebs keep calling it Fireball whiskey?

FFT
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

that's what it's called

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Words have regional variations in spelling? Colour me surprised

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Next you're gonna tell me that "literally" can't mean figuratively despite being fine with "really" not meaning objectively real

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

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Failed Imagineer posted:

I kinda inferred that he thought all of television was worthless pabulum there to support the main goal of injecting advertising into your eyeballs. I would further infer that he hates advertising, but I admit I don't know this guy's mind

He's right

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

I kinda inferred that he thought all of television was worthless pabulum there to support the main goal of injecting advertising into your eyeballs. I would further infer that he hates advertising, but I admit I don't know this guy's mind

the vibe was the show's content was an essential part of delivering the advertising and so basically inseparable from the advertising itself, or maybe, even worse because of the illusion that it had any other meaning or purpose. Maximum cynicism

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

People move to hollywood because they have dreams of being an artist, they perfect a difficult skill, get the job everyone says should make them happy, and realize their purpose in life, the end result of that passion, is to brainwash grandpa into demanding from his doctor a cialis prescription.

And also probably realize they are a disposable cog whose artistry means nothing to the nepo baby directors with no vision except the $ they split with the pharma exec via those swindled grandpas

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 01:21 on Feb 3, 2023

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

christmas boots posted:

Probably, but it would be funnier if for some bizarre reason he just hated television because it took up valuable time he could be watching ads

Hey man I've heard of way weirder poo poo. People absolutely love ads. It's probably the most american art form

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Canadians get incredibly mad that they can't see the advertisements during the super bowl

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

COPE 27 posted:

Canadians get incredibly mad that they can't see the advertisements during the super bowl

it sucks!

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
the fact you also can't really survive off what they pay you even after you 'make it' also really sucks

Like the narrative is once you hustle as that PA, or struggle to get a script picked up or whatever are lean times.

Once you're a writer for a hit netflix show, you shouldn't need to also wait tables, hustle with fiverr and still need a gofundme if a medical thing pops up
Your costumes and props are regularly seen in TV and movies? Gotta open an OF if you wanna eat.

That's awesome you're a VO with regular work in mainstream games and television, you're also gonna need to work the con circuit, be building manager for a condo, and work as a host at a restaurant

With the exception of the pure lottery 'making' it like being the face of a major brand, no one I know is able to even be a successful full time hollywood worker without at least having a partner with a normal job or intergenerational wealthy buoying them.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Coolness Averted posted:


Fireball Whiskey*

(May not contain actual whiskey)
This is just about the minibottles being a cheap ethanol, food coloring, sugar and artificial flavor blend, but sold with labeling and a price point that would make a customer think they're buying the whiskey of the same name, brand, and formulation.

The same way one assumed a gallon of milk and quart of milk would contain the same product.

if you can't tell the difference does it really matter

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Coolness Averted posted:

the fact you also can't really survive off what they pay you even after you 'make it' also really sucks

Like the narrative is once you hustle as that PA, or struggle to get a script picked up or whatever are lean times.

Once you're a writer for a hit netflix show, you shouldn't need to also wait tables, hustle with fiverr and still need a gofundme if a medical thing pops up
Your costumes and props are regularly seen in TV and movies? Gotta open an OF if you wanna eat.

That's awesome you're a VO with regular work in mainstream games and television, you're also gonna need to work the con circuit, be building manager for a condo, and work as a host at a restaurant

With the exception of the pure lottery 'making' it like being the face of a major brand, no one I know is able to even be a successful full time hollywood worker without at least having a partner with a normal job or intergenerational wealthy buoying them.

In film school the Cinematographer of Chicago Fire said: men, marry a housewife, women, become lesbian and marry a housewife. Ideally one who is independently wealthy. Own a lovely car and a small property, townhouse. Own only the gear your show will rent from you every day on set. Don't have kids. Don't have debt. Then you will probably survive working in TV. lol

edit:



She married her camera operator who became the show runner of Chicago Fire so I guess that's also viable

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 02:03 on Feb 3, 2023

Death Panel Czar
Apr 1, 2012

Too dangerous for a full sensory injection... That level of shitposting means they're almost non-human!

Coolness Averted posted:


(May not contain actual whiskey)
This is just about the minibottles being a cheap ethanol, food coloring, sugar and artificial flavor blend, but sold with labeling and a price point that would make a customer think they're buying the whiskey of the same name, brand, and formulation.
I'd be amazed if this can go anywhere given the original isn't whisky either

I was confused at first and thought you were reposting a kicked up stink from 2007 or whatever when it was rebranded and people were learning about it being sub-40% sugar water for the first time, but they've built a whole-rear end brand on being a thing that's not the thing it says it is

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

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Thanks to AdBlock, sponsorblock and not even owning a TV ads are something that happens to other people

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

tokin opposition posted:

Thanks to AdBlock, sponsorblock and not even owning a TV ads are something that happens to other people

same. it's also crazy how bad it triggers me. I'm at someone else place and an ad comes on and I look at them "what the gently caress is this? can we turn this off? I'd rather not watch at all" etc and I'm a total psycho in their eyes.

Imagine books had a glossy full color ad every 15 pages. Imagine a 3 minute song had a 10 second ad in the middle. it's psycho poo poo. I'm the normal one.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007

Antonymous posted:

same. it's also crazy how bad it triggers me. I'm at someone else place and an ad comes on and I look at them "what the gently caress is this? can we turn this off? I'd rather not watch at all" etc and I'm a total psycho in their eyes.
lol :same:

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

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Antonymous posted:

same. it's also crazy how bad it triggers me. I'm at someone else place and an ad comes on and I look at them "what the gently caress is this? can we turn this off? I'd rather not watch at all" etc and I'm a total psycho in their eyes.

Imagine books had a glossy full color ad every 15 pages. Imagine a 3 minute song had a 10 second ad in the middle. it's psycho poo poo. I'm the normal one.

The ads are also getting more and more obnoxious and/or dystopian.

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May 8, 2012

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tokin opposition posted:

Thanks to AdBlock, sponsorblock and not even owning a TV ads are something that happens to other people

:same:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

skooma512 posted:

The ads are also getting more and more obnoxious and/or dystopian.

I really want some lightspeed brand briefs

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

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Lordshmee
Nov 23, 2007

I hate you, Milkman Dan

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

I watch dick proenneke's documentary at least twice a year. I wonder if it's seasonal for me or something.

I’d imagine this goes without saying, but I’m here to tell you, if you ever get the chance to go to Alaska then loving take it. Every time you turn around it’s just knockout gorgeous.

I got my copies of Alone in the Wilderness parts 1 and 2 in Denali and I wish I had the guts to do what he did.

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Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
my parents moved me to alaska when I was 16 so it's a very special place to me.

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