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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Expected

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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."



Oh yeah, I was just hoping for this year. Like, Halloween or Christmas.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


I just want another trailer

WSAENOTSOCK
Apr 13, 2002


Dammit.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS




Mother pus bucket.

text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007

i smell pretty fine




I knew the world was going to end before we got GB3. I knew it.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004



Valentine's day. Bummer

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Yams Fan

The_Doctor posted:

Oh yeah, I was just hoping for this year. Like, Halloween or Christmas.

Just if you think the 'rona will be done with us before Christmas.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


Iron Crowned posted:

Just if you think the 'rona will be done with us before Christmas.

Thanks for the unwarranted pessimism.

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.

I feel like movie theaters are going to suffer for a while even after the virus is gone. No ones going to want to sit indoors watching movies after doing nothing but that for months.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013



I don't know, I reckon people will miss the cinema, it's a different experience than at home.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


The_Doctor posted:

Thanks for the unwarranted pessimism.

They're likely right though.

You should know; you're a doctor!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

They're likely right though.

You should know; you're a doctor!

Im not that sort of Doctor!

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005







I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

How does it taste?



Dinosaur Gum

The_Doctor posted:

Thanks for the unwarranted pessimism.

Thats just being realistic. Especially in the US where people are flagrantly ignoring distancing guidelines because "we can't let the enemy win" mentality, this is a problem that's gonna persist for months.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003



Even with thorough social distancing the virus is widespread enough that its going to keep cycling through people who cant/wont self quarantine (health care workers, other essential services, people so poor that they need to risk going out to do whatever jobs they can) and wont just burn out in the next few months. Were looking at several months followed probably by staggered rollbacks to normalcy, it wont just be like welp its July, everything is going back to normal!

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

How does it taste?



Dinosaur Gum

Guy A. Person posted:

Even with thorough social distancing the virus is widespread enough that its going to keep cycling through people who cant/wont self quarantine (health care workers, other essential services, people so poor that they need to risk going out to do whatever jobs they can) and wont just going to burn out in the next few months. Were looking at several months followed probably by staggered rollbacks to normalcy, it wont just be like welp its July, everything is going back to normal!

Trump implying everything was gonna be fine and dandy by Easter Sunday was irresponsible at best, downright criminal at worst. I understand the idea of slow rolling the news of "we need to keep quarantining for another month", but people are getting unrealistic ideas of when things are gonna be safe again.

text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007

i smell pretty fine




I'm not saying i'd sucka dirty dick to see the movie, but i'm not not saying it.

Robert J. Omb
Dec 1, 2005
The 'J' stands for 'AAARRGH!'

Kevyn posted:

No ones going to want to sit indoors watching movies after doing nothing but that for months.

Something something Goons

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


The_Doctor posted:

Thanks for the unwarranted pessimism.

When will it be over?

I don't know.

*drinks*

I don't know.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

6th Anniversary Edition


Those traps I'm seeing pictured in Walmart for $20 look awesome

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Bacon Terrorist posted:

Those traps I'm seeing pictured in Walmart for $20 look awesome

Huh. It looks like the spirit trap exactly with a wire pedal instead of a button on the handle.

Ill def pick up the pke meter to go with my spirit trap.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


My local Walmarts still havent had the traps in. Definitely going to pick up some when they do come in, keep one, and then bring the rest to the UK.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!


Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/sta...8663023616?s=19

What if the same poorly edited improv and funny faces but, like, two more hours of it.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here


8one6 posted:

https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/sta...8663023616?s=19

What if the same poorly edited improv and funny faces but, like, two more hours of it.

Dear God, NO.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001

The four most over-rated things in life are champagne, lobster, anal sex and picnics. Oh, and that stupid children's book 'The Little Prince,' ugh.


Yams Fan

8one6 posted:

https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/sta...8663023616?s=19

What if the same poorly edited improv and funny faces but, like, two more hours of it.
I liked it.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


I legitimately wonder if it would help the film, at least with the story and motivations for certain things. Maybe not ALL of the cut footage but there was a lot that seemed unnecessarily sped up, plot wise.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007




Buglord

Those proton packs they had were Very Cool

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

"When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your quarterback's face, you'll know what to do."


We need the Feig cut. It explains why all those people were frozen in a dance pose towards the end of the movie!

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003



Yeah we got the #FeigCut but what we really needed was a cut that followed the actual script to complete cohesive character arcs instead of improv'ing every scene into oblivion so everything ran together in a sea of bad jokes

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018


like, i bet somebody could make a funny movie out of all the footage.

you know, not any of the people involved apparently, but somebody

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

8one6 posted:

https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1263509648663023616?s=19

What if the same poorly edited improv and funny faces but, like, two more hours of it.

There oughtta be a law that says that directors aren't allowed to cut movies.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017



Guy A. Person posted:

Yeah we got the #FeigCut but what we really needed was a cut that followed the actual script to complete cohesive character arcs instead of improv'ing every scene into oblivion so everything ran together in a sea of bad jokes

How much of that cut is just Chris Hemsworth at the desk doing shtick with his logos?

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

6th Anniversary Edition


There have been some good examples of how weak directing let the film down by comparing it to the original. When you look at Feig's other work like Bridesmaids and The Heat, which often have long set pieces, it's clear with hindsight that is not really what the highlights of the franchise are about. 2016's proton pack test scene vs 1984's lift scene, for example. I genuinely think 2016 could've been a lot better with some script changes, reining in the improv and changing the tone.

This is well worn territory I suppose. I am just an old man shouting at a cloud about practical effects and trapping ghosts not killing them.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe

The theatrical cut already felt like 3 hours so I can't even imagine an actual 3 hour cut.

text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007

i smell pretty fine




I swear there's a lot in GB16 somewhere in there. Something about the bicentienial in New York and the lay lines and Patty's whole background of knowing city history. I swear, there was a plot in there and they forgot it.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003



text me a vag pic posted:

I swear there's a lot in GB16 somewhere in there. Something about the bicentienial in New York and the lay lines and Patty's whole background of knowing city history. I swear, there was a plot in there and they forgot it.

I've said this before but Kristen Wiig's arc is one that makes sense but is just directly undermined by all the ad libbing/improvisation. Her backstory is that she saw a ghost and nobody believed her so now she is obsessed with being taken seriously. In all the major plot beats this carries through: she is timid until she finds proof, then her confidence swells, then she comes crashing down when faced with scrutiny. But then there's extended scenes where she's like, doing a bit with McCarthy about the plot of Dirty Dancing or whatever which just doesn't jive with what should be happening with her characterization. They could have paired the jokes with her upswings of confidence but it really just happens in whatever scene regardless of context, so even when she is supposed to be feeling defeated and resentful she's still just goofing off.

I feel like a lot of the production went like this. I.e. "oh this scene is supposed to have Patty explaining some ritual that happened in the subway tunnels 80 years ago but we had a really funny take where Jones went off on some tangent and we were all dying so let's use that one" etc. They seemed to choose funny improvised scenes in 90% of the cases and sacrificed characterization and story in the hopes that how much fun they were all having on set carried over into the audience experience.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER

6th Anniversary Edition


Speaking of 1984, I saw Kindergarten Cop again the other day and it has a similar original score to Ghostbusters despite it not being Elmer Bernstein (Reitman directed both).

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


Bacon Terrorist posted:

Speaking of 1984, I saw Kindergarten Cop again the other day and it has a similar original score to Ghostbusters despite it not being Elmer Bernstein (Reitman directed both).

Watch 'The Black Cauldron'; you'll hear parts that practically seem to be ripped directly from Ghostbusters. Both were done by Bernstein, one year apart.

Bam, check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKGTYySx7bk

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 16:04 on May 23, 2020

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



I think a key problem is that improv-heavy works for romantic, screwball and/or gross-out comedies where everything's supposed to be silly, but sci-fi needs to be tightly shot and written to present the story and themes in a consistent and compelling way. The original Ghostbusters treated the supernatural elements entirely seriously, even when people make fun of them it's presented clearly as a coping mechanism and/or characterisation of how the characters have gotten used to weird poo poo.

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