Timby posted:Why wouldn't it? Yeah, people give Ghostbusters 2 poo poo for not having any new ideas, but the video game is just a highlight reel of things from the first movie that people might remember. Some neat dialogue tho.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Ok, so then you have a government agency dedicated to the elimination of badthought - sidestepping the question of why there are ghosts in the first place. I mean, this depends on how you treat ghosts. Ghostbusters 2 definitely has the socio-economic subtext with the mood slime and everything, but 1 seems to imply it's closer to a natural disaster, or a least a deliberately evoked man-made one given the building that's made as one giant summoning platform and all. The Ghostbusters are coded far more as firefighters than police, complete with being headquartered in an old fire station, and wielding devices that look like hoses. Mind you, private sector firefighting is kind of already a punchline, and kinda goes right with the in-universe ideas that the Ghostbusters are basically a protection racket. (which given they threaten to release a ghost if they aren't paid for the capture, they really aren't helping their case) And a big part of adaptation/EU stuff with them actually plays up the science aspect a bit; a big part of the job is determining what exactly they're dealing with and whether it's actually a threat. Benign and even helpful ghosts show up (even Slimer seems to be helpful in Ghostbusters 2 for whatever reason, maybe touched that a human decides to go along with him hijacking a bus) and the cartoon in particular has the Ghostbusters helping out benevolent ghosts, spirits and miscellaneous weirdos. I still like the old joke about how Ghostbusters is a game of Call of Cthulhu which got a bit out of hand, and somehow ends with the PCs having MORE San than they started with.
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Jul 13, 2020 09:19
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Ghostbusters 2 gave him a little justice with the Wiiiiiiiiinstonnnnnnnnn moment and his daring fire extinguisher rescue, but he really did deserve much more. GB II isn't as good as the original, but it does have its moments, and the train tunnel scene is absolutely one of them. It still freaks me out even today, much like that shot of the Titanic in the harbour, with the endless rows of forlorn spirits marching off it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb6tz6ohprw And Winston is the best.
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Jul 13, 2020 13:07
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The 'shut up about the rats!' and 'sorry, I missed it' are wonderful moments. Glad he got them. The former because that is likely the exact response that over 90% of the audience would have, had any of them been in the same situation. STFU, Ray!
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Jul 13, 2020 13:50
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The only thing that really gets me about GB II is clearly Winston is there in the courtroom but doesn't stick around when the Scoleri brothers show up. Sure, they might have only had three proton packs but you could have had all four as evidence so he could have helped out. Or maybe at least showing him getting everybody out of the courtroom.
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Jul 13, 2020 16:11
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Dawgstar posted:The only thing that really gets me about GB II is clearly Winston is there in the courtroom but doesn't stick around when the Scoleri brothers show up. Sure, they might have only had three proton packs but you could have had all four as evidence so he could have helped out. Or maybe at least showing him getting everybody out of the courtroom. Or working the trap. I've always assumed they kept it to those 3 because they wanted to keep the same loose story beats as GB1, so they needed their "these three guys blow up some place while fighting wacky cartoon ghost(s)" moment. It's disappointing to say the least.
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Jul 13, 2020 16:42
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Dawgstar posted:Or maybe at least showing him getting everybody out of the courtroom. That’s what he was doing according to something I read? Script, novelisation?
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Jul 13, 2020 16:45
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Very disappointing. We're not even given an explanation as to where he's going. He's not there for the Ray's Books/Dana apartment scene, though I do get that that's more "Ray and Egon doing science, Peter is there because of his personal connection" reason. We need an "Oops! All Winston!" super edit of the movies.
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Jul 13, 2020 16:47
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The_Doctor posted:That’s what he was doing according to something I read? Script, novelisation? Definitely not in the shooting script, quite possibly in the novelization.
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Jul 13, 2020 16:51
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Even with all that I still walked away from GBII as a kid wanting to be Winston because he's the one that busts in the door and saves Egon and Ray from the fire.
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Jul 13, 2020 16:51
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Winston clearly left the courtroom to find his own lawyer
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Jul 13, 2020 18:20
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The Cameo posted:Winston clearly left the courtroom to find his own lawyer Ah, there we go. This is it. It was set up years before.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:57
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Winston is definitely too smart to let Louis Tully decide his fate.
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Jul 13, 2020 19:33
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Was Winston even no trial with the other 3? He wasn't digging up Broadway, so why would be charged with anything?
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Jul 13, 2020 20:11
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Was Winston even no trial with the other 3? He wasn't digging up Broadway, so why would be charged with anything? He wasn't on trial, he just checked in on the guys at the defendants' table from the gallery. And then disappears until the montage.
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Jul 13, 2020 20:21
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Just seems really weird he wouldn't be there, y'know... supporting his friends and coworkers.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:04
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Just seems really weird he wouldn't be there, y'know... supporting his friends and coworkers. This is veering towards my observation that the Avengers aren’t friends, and ‘friendship’ is often deployed to depoliticize such as labour relations.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:18
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Just seems really weird he wouldn't be there, y'know... supporting his friends and coworkers. He's there:  Then he just disappears like Timby says. That's why it always struck me as weird.
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Jul 13, 2020 21:44
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There's a secret GB2 cut with 55 minutes of lost Winston scenes, including but not limited to: Winston saving that other lawyer lady, Winston regrowing his mustache, Winston obsessively researching trains, Winston does laundry, Winston shaving his mustache, AND MORE?
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Jul 13, 2020 22:15
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Dawgstar posted:He's there: Holy poo poo. I truly never noticed him there before.  Edit: weird... He's not there when Louis is talking about turning into a dog, but once Mr Fianella is on the stand, Winston takes his place in the audience. Edit 2: and now he's gone again, and Fianella is back next to that really small guy. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Jul 14, 2020 00:23
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i mean...why would he stick around? he's not getting paid and those three guys have it *shrug* i thought the "ghosts" were just energy taking a form? they aren't "spirits of the dead" but a type of energy that collects and takes a familiar form (a librarian in a library, a glutton in a fancy hotel, a jogger running in the park). energy was coming in from another dimension along ley lines and making the home energy more powerful and dangerous the problem comes in when you don't dissipate the energy, or send it into another dimension, but collect it. like putting too much air in a balloon! that's why crossing the streams works and why the ghostbusters had to "choose the form".
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Jul 14, 2020 01:32
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The ghosts were for the most part people at one point. Some are demons / entities from other dimensions that take a monster like form. Gozer being an old God that is pretty pompous decides to let it's victims choose the form of their destruction. Unfortunately for Gozer marshmallow men can melt. Gozer had previously been chosen to be real scary things with some serious killing power like a Sloar.
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Jul 14, 2020 01:54
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Guy A. Person posted:Or working the trap. This was so obvious it even annoyed me as a kid, the way the movie copies so many of the story beats from the first movie, even down to having a climax with something gigantic marching through the city, except this time it’s on the good guys side! It’s a shame because there’s some stuff in it that’s super memorable. I still think the idea of an abandoned subway tunnel deep under the city is super atmospheric, and there’s some great creepy individual scenes, like when they find the river of slime in the Vigo photos. It’s just every good scene is surrounded by like a worse, less funny retread of something from the first movie.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:The ghosts were for the most part people at one point. Some are demons / entities from other dimensions that take a monster like form. There was some concept art I once saw that theorised how Ghostbusters ghosts develop- ones of humans start out looking as they did in life, but over time they start losing their memories and sense of humanity and become focused on particular fixations and motivations, and become more inhuman and grotesque as a result, like how Slimer has pretty clearly let his gluttony and indulgence take over his mind. Gozer strikes me as a type who's alien enough to not really understand humans or the whole physical dimension thing, so letting humans decide what it SHOULD look like makes things more convenient. Unfortunately they didn't count on how pop culture and advertising has done weird things to the human imagination. There is a bit in the comics where Gozer DOES realise how silly their form is and wants to change it, but apparently it's kinda stuck.
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There's something like that in an old game
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well, now i just feel bad for ghosts 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:There was some concept art I once saw that theorised how Ghostbusters ghosts develop- ones of humans start out looking as they did in life, but over time they start losing their memories and sense of humanity and become focused on particular fixations and motivations, and become more inhuman and grotesque as a result, like how Slimer has pretty clearly let his gluttony and indulgence take over his mind. I never realized until this moment how badly I wanted a Ghostbusters/Supernatural crossover.
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McSpanky posted:I never realized until this moment how badly I wanted a Ghostbusters/Supernatural crossover. https://youtu.be/Nsy06n-omrg The whole thing is fun but skip to 7:15 if you just want to see the Sam and Dean
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Dawgstar posted:Right? I had a dream not too long ago that was pretty much just the episode 'When Halloween Was Forever' which was a big deal at the time, airing in prime time and everything as a Halloween special alongside like Charlie Brown and Garfield. I miss those days; it was exciting as a kid to watch a cartoon, on prime time, on a school night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ew_wOOjcD4
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Jul 14, 2020 22:58
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From Reddit, but the newspaper shot from the montage is actually from the final scene:
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Jul 23, 2020 20:35
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Wait, there are people who didn't notice that until now? God, how many times have I watched this movie that I figured that was commonly known?
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Jul 23, 2020 20:49
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The Cameo posted:Wait, there are people who didn't notice that until now? God, how many times have I watched this movie that I figured that was commonly known? Seeing it now seems so obvious, but I never noticed it. Just like how it was only a few years ago that I noticed Egon signaling how much Peter should charge the hotel, or the Stay Puft billboard shown on the side of the building at one point.
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Jul 23, 2020 22:37
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Just like how it was only a few years ago that I noticed Egon signaling how much Peter should charge the hotel, To be fair, that was lost in all the years of 4:3 broadcasts and VHS tapes. It wasn’t until widescreen became a thing that Egon became properly visible during that scene (and the entry to the hotel).
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Jul 23, 2020 22:41
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Yeah, you can’t be blamed for the Egon joke, that literally disappeared until the DVD release. But then again I have seen the movie enough times that people can just quote one line at me and I will immediately be able to do the next scene and a half without blinking. I maybe have seen it too many times. If that’s possible.
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Jul 23, 2020 22:55
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The Cameo posted:
"Spate's catalogue... "
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Jul 23, 2020 23:41
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Tobin’s Spirit Guide. Tell you what, I’ll accompany Miss Barrett back to her apartment and check her out. ... ... check out Miss Barrett’s apartment. Please, let me. If somethings going to happen here, I want it to happen to me first. ... that’s the closet. They hate this. I like to torture them. That’s right boys! It’s Dr. Venkman! ... lotta space. Just you? Yes. Good. What is that thing you’re doing? It’s... technical. One of our little toys. I see. ... that’s the bedroom, but nothing happened in there. What a shame.
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Jul 23, 2020 23:56
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The Cameo posted:Tobin’s Spirit Guide. "crime". To quote Peter again... "Close, but definitely wrong."
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Jul 24, 2020 00:09
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*gets jolted, spits gum out* It’s an entire movie in my head, I’m not gonna nail every word.
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Jul 24, 2020 00:20
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The Cameo posted:*gets jolted, spits gum out* Pretend I made a really clever Ready Player 1 joke here. I don't know anything about the book beyond the main character regurgitating 80s pop culture but I feel like there's something there.
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"He gooped me."
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