things that could be a fuck ton easier

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carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

Suspicious posted:

taking screenshots is not a core os functionality. it should be (and is!) handled by third party applications

there's plenty of good reasons to hate on windows, "it doesn't do screenshots like macs" is not one of them

windows third party screenshot applications are also trash and the improvements coming in mojave widen that gap considerably

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:31

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 18:59

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

echinopsis posted:

can ya paste it directly into imgur

yeah that's a screenshot of me pasting it into imgur

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:34

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Suspicious posted:

taking screenshots is not a core os functionality. it should be (and is!) handled by third party applications

i partially agree. on linux, this makes sense: the kernel should not be concerned with screenshots, it should be the responsibility of the window manager/primary graphical interface.

but when you say "windows" you're referring to both the core operating system and the windows GUI. i think it's a security concern: i don't really want a random screenshotting program to be able to see whatever is visible in my display whenever it's running.

DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jul 21, 2018

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:37

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Shaggar posted:

yeah that's a screenshot of me pasting it into imgur

holy gently caress shaggar you can�t just do weird poo poo like that.

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:39

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

wanting the screenshot tool to save stuff to disk automatically is like a 2% edge case. probably 80% of the time I want to paste it into something and never use it again and the remaining 18% I want to edit it before copying it and pasting it into something and never use it again.

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:42

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

I really like using the native snip tool because I literally never need a full screencap.

# ? Jul 21, 2018 04:44

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Snipping tool is very good

# ? Jul 21, 2018 05:44

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006; Can't post for 21 minutes!

lol if theres anything windows does correctly its screencaps

# ? Jul 21, 2018 09:56

Stereotype: Apr 24, 2010; College Slice

Wow looks like I�ve triggered you all, which means I�m super correct. The most correct.

# ? Jul 21, 2018 10:18

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
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Captain Foo posted:

Snipping tool is very good

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:17

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

Captain Foo posted:

Snipping tool is very good

snip snip it's good

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:28

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

Shaggar posted:

smtp and ldap aren't anywhere near as bad as snmp

is there any good snmp tools please help me my network is dying

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:28

pram: Jun 10, 2001

snmp is really hosed. who the hell thought poo poo like this is a good idea

1.3.6.1.4.868.2.4.1.2.1.1.1.3.3562.3

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:35

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

i remember in elementary school i once wondered what the print screen key did on the computer and when i pressed it it sent what was on my screen to the printer lol

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:36

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

pram posted:

snmp is really hosed. who the hell thought poo poo like this is a good idea

1.3.6.1.4.868.2.4.1.2.1.1.1.3.3562.3

OIDs are insane

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:37

pram: Jun 10, 2001

if you look at integrating something like datadog with your hardware, which is usually all from scratch, you'll want to start looking for another job

code:

     metrics:
       - MIB: UDP-MIB
         symbol: udpInDatagrams
       - OID: 1.3.6.1.2.1.6.5
         name: tcpPassiveOpens
       - MIB: IF-MIB
         table: ifTable
         symbols:
           - ifInOctets
           - ifOutOctets
         metric_tags:
           - tag: interface
             column: ifDescr

imagine doing that for dozens/hundreds of oids

# ? Jul 22, 2018 01:42

Agile Vector: May 21, 2007; scrum bored

carry on then posted:

windows third party screenshot applications are also trash and the improvements coming in mojave widen that gap considerably

i always lold a bit when old timers would wrangle some lovely screenshot util at work and the mac one was just the default os

the windows one was some clunky rear end poo poo we had approved years ago and never updated, required mouse clicks to launch, and took a few seconds to save the capture before being able to paste

President Beep posted:

I really like using the native snip tool because I literally never need a full screencap.

when we switched to 7 this was the best thing because its good and bundled but it didnt stop the use of the garbage util we had for years

# ? Jul 22, 2018 05:57

HAIL eSATA-n: Apr 7, 2007

Agile Vector posted:

i always lold a bit when old timers would wrangle some lovely screenshot util at work and the mac one was just the default os

the windows one was some clunky rear end poo poo we had approved years ago and never updated, required mouse clicks to launch, and took a few seconds to save the capture before being able to paste

when we switched to 7 this was the best thing because its good and bundled but it didnt stop the use of the garbage util we had for years

my garbage job still uses a garbage print screen utility on windows

# ? Jul 22, 2018 05:59

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

screen snapping on macos is better except who can ever remember the commands so I have to google each time lmao

# ? Jul 22, 2018 06:52

Agile Vector: May 21, 2007; scrum bored

echinopsis posted:

screen snapping on macos is better except who can ever remember the commands so I have to google each time lmao

its only through sheer force of will that i did, but the same old timer that wrangled the awful tools we had remapped his mac to a simple combo and was snapping like mad making defect documentation

meanwhile i am admittedly using the same awful combo because im an adobe user and have stockholm syndrome for key combos

# ? Jul 22, 2018 07:01

Agile Vector: May 21, 2007; scrum bored

'no i like' *squints at keyboard* 'save for web in photoshop'

# ? Jul 22, 2018 07:04

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

pram posted:

if you look at integrating something like datadog with your hardware, which is usually all from scratch, you'll want to start looking for another job
code:
     metrics:
       - MIB: UDP-MIB
         symbol: udpInDatagrams
       - OID: 1.3.6.1.2.1.6.5
         name: tcpPassiveOpens
       - MIB: IF-MIB
         table: ifTable
         symbols:
           - ifInOctets
           - ifOutOctets
         metric_tags:
           - tag: interface
             column: ifDescr
imagine doing that for dozens/hundreds of oids

prometheus has a nice smp generator tool but it's still annoying af to load up MIBs in whatever shareware bullshit I have installed from last time I tried to filter the right things out properly

# ? Jul 22, 2018 12:32

thebigcow: Jan 3, 2001; Bully!

I set someone up with Greenshot because it was listed in Ninite and I guess it was ok.

# ? Jul 22, 2018 15:39

Partycat: Oct 25, 2004

I mean you can read the MIB and maybe figure out which OID does what. but you still have tables to deal with and changing indices to chase down.

It is like a Dewey decimal system for millions of data points

# ? Jul 22, 2018 17:38

OldAlias: Nov 2, 2013

echinopsis posted:

screen snapping on macos is better except who can ever remember the commands so I have to google each time lmao

bettersnaptool is good on macOS

# ? Jul 22, 2018 18:03

Fanged Lawn Wormy: Jan 4, 2008; SQUEAK! SQUEAK! SQUEAK!

snipping tool is missing 1 feature: the ability to just snapshot a window like on mac. yes, let's depend on my ability to get the dragged window right every time or then cut out the background in paint or whatever.

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:12

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006; Can't post for 21 minutes!

Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:

snipping tool is missing 1 feature: the ability to just snapshot a window like on mac. yes, let's depend on my ability to get the dragged window right every time or then cut out the background in paint or whatever.

but then why wouldnt you just alt prtscrn?

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:24

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:31

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

holy poo poo. i never even noticed those options.

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:35

pram: Jun 10, 2001

windows bad

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:42

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

ah, but windows good!

# ? Jul 23, 2018 01:42